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Brett Hawke
Take an intimate look inside the minds of swimming's highest achievers with one of the world's best swim coaches, Brett Hawke.
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Feb 28, 2023 • 39min
#302 Houston Head Coach Tanica Jamison on Building a Successful Team
Tanica Jamison, a proven winner & uber competitive recruiter, has led the University of Houston to two conference titles in her first two years, furthering the Cougars streak of 9 in a row.
Prior to UH, Tanica coached the Texas A&M women's team from 2011-2021. As a result of Jamison's efforts, Texas A&M has placed in the top 10 seven times in the NCAA Championships, including two third-place finishes in 2017 and 2018, and four consecutive fourth-place finishes.
Jamison was a two-time team captain at the University of Texas and a Big 12 Freshman and Newcomer of the Year in 2000. She also won the program's Leadership Award in 2001 and 2002 and was named an All-American in both 2001 and 2002. In 2003, she was honored as the team's Most Valuable Player.
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00:00 - Welcome to Tanica Jamison!
08:45 - Transitioning To A New Conference
16:10 - Managing Talent and Potential
19:07 - Being An Assistant vs. Head Coach
26:55 - Competitive Recruiting
29:11 - Five-Year Plan
30:58 - Advice To Younger Coaches

Feb 27, 2023 • 49min
Lausanne & Jalisco Cups + HS Record Breakers Buff, Modglin, & Shackell
Brett, Sonny, and Nate talk about swimming. Every Monday morning, Brett and Sonny discuss what's been going on in the world of swimming. They end with a Q&A session. Catch up with the top swimming stories across the globe.
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Feb 21, 2023 • 57min
Quantum Leaps in Swimming: An Interview with Don Swartz
Don Swartz got his start as a club coach in 1967 when he worked with George French at the Ladera Oaks Aquatic Club in Northern California as an age group coach. After living in Davis, California, he moved to Marin County to become the Head Coach of the Marin Aquatic Club. From 1970 to 1976, he coached a number of swimmers who went on to make the Olympic, World Championship, and Pan-American teams. Some of these swimmers set world records. One of his swimmers, Rick DeMont, broke the 4-minute mark in the 400-meter freestyle race at the World Championships in Belgrade, Yugoslavia, in 1973. He was the first person to do this.
The Marin Aquatic Club had a lot of high school All-Americans and usually finished in the top 10 at the AAU National Championships. Don was on the Board of the ASCA and spoke at a number of World Clinics for the ASCA. He was a coach on the teams for the 1975 World Championships and the 1977 dual meets in East Germany and Russia for the national teams.
Don started the Creative Performance Institute in 1977. For eight years, it was his main job to teach coaches and athletes about the mental side of sports. In his workshops, he talked about things like setting goals, taking risks, dealing with anxiety, and visualizing. Many high school, club, and college teams were among his clients. He also worked in Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Sweden, and Ireland, all of which are in other countries.
His dedication is best shown by saying, "My goal is to be the best coach I can be by continuing to grow." As a coach, I'm still getting better. Since I no longer coach in a vacuum, every week my skills improve."
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00:00 - Welcome Don Swartz!
01:00 - The Quantum Leap
12:22 - Individual Differences
8:00 - Paradigm Shift in Swimming
26:03 - Reflect, Experiment, and Evolve
34:54 - Goal Setting and Accountability
41:46 - Taking Risks To Be Successful

Feb 15, 2023 • 30min
Working Together Successfully with Gregg Troy & Larry Shofe | ASCA Talk #003
The following talk was presented by Gregg Troy & Larry Shofe at the 1995 World Clinic in New Orleans.
Gregg Troy was the Head Coach and Larry Shofe was the Senior Coach of the Bolles School Sharks in Jacksonville, Florida.
At the time of this talk, the Bolles School had produced 20+ Olympians, 22 Florida State Championship Teams, 3 National Prep Championship Teams, 7 Junior National Championship Teams, and winners of the overall combined 1995 USA Swimming National Championships.
This talk provides an overview of the qualities and characteristics of a successful assistant coach, as well as advice on how to evaluate a potential assistant coaching position. Plus, advice on how to hire and manage assistant coaches in a swim program.
Key takeaways from Coach Larry Shofe:
1. Unselfishness is an important attribute of an assistant coach.
2. It is important to evaluate the job security, responsibilities, and location of a potential assistant coaching position.
3. A successful assistant coach should have a good relationship with the head coach, gain their trust and respect, and be willing to put in the same hours as the head coach.
Key takeaways from Coach Gregg Troy:
1. Understand the goals of assistant coaches and give them opportunities to achieve them. "Let them work."
2. Make sure to be clear about expectations and responsibilities.
3. Look for loyalty, dependability, a caring attitude, and a willingness to learn in assistant coaches.
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Feb 14, 2023 • 49min
Successful Coaching Philosophies with Carmel Swim Coach Chris Plumb
Chris Plumb, the Head Coach and of Carmel Swim Club and Carmel High School, shares his journey of becoming a successful coach and his philosophies on how to become successful. This is a revisit from Episode 135.
3 Key Takeaways:
1. Successful coaches are those who put themselves in situations to learn and ask the right questions.
2. Simple skills, such as push-offs, need to be practiced over and over again to become a master.
3. Training cycles should be broken up into six week blocks to allow for adaptations and maintenance.
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Feb 13, 2023 • 56min
Carmel Swimming + Roos Vanotterdijk + Zapple Retires with Jamal Hill
Every Monday morning, Brett and @TheSwimsuitGuy discuss what's been going on in the world of swimming. They end with a Q&A session. Catch up with the top swimming stories across the globe.
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Feb 8, 2023 • 5min
How Australia Beat America in the 4x100 Free Relay in 2000 with Michael Klim
Men's 4x100 meter freestyle relay at the 2000 Summer Olympics was held on September 16, 2000 at the Sydney International Aquatic Centre in Sydney, Australia.
The Australians won an Olympic gold medal for the first time in 36 years, and they did it in front of their delirious home fans. Australians Michael Klim (48.18), Chris Fydler (48.48), and Ashley Callus (48.74) won the gold medal in a time of 3:13.67 thanks to Ian Thorpe's anchor leg of 48.30, after he had lost the lead to Gary Hall, Jr. of the United States at the 350-meter mark. By setting the pace early in the race, Klim was able to beat the previous world record set by his Russian training partner Alexander Popov in 1994 by 0.03 seconds.
Hall wrote on his blog before the 4 x 100 meter freestyle relay, " "It is my unreliable opinion that we will decimate the Australian 4x100m relay team like a band of guitars. The United States has always performed admirably under pressure. This time, however, the logic in my far-flung head tells me that the United States won't have it so simple to dominate the oceans." After the race, in response to Hall's comments, the Australians air-guitared on the pool deck. Hall commented on the race's significance, saying, "I can't even play the guitar correctly... As far as relay races go, that was the best one I've ever participated in. My hat is out to the legendary Ian Thorpe. Finishing stronger than I did, he beat me." Michael Klim, one of the Australians on the winning 4x100 relay team, remembered that "First to come over and offer his congratulations was swimmer Hall. His rough treatment of others did not make him any less of a sportsman ".
Hall (48.24), Anthony Ervin (48.89), Neil Walker (48.31), and Jason Lezak (48.42) of Team USA finished in second place, 1.25 seconds behind the Australians' world record time from five years ago, but still set a new American record with a time of 3:13.86.
At the same time, the Brazilian relay team of Fernando Scherer (49.79), Gustavo Borges (48.61), Carlos Jayme (49.88), and Edvaldo Silva Filho (49.12) won bronze with a time of 3 minutes, 17 seconds, and 40 seconds.
While the rest of the championship field included the likes of Germany (3:17.77), Italy (3:17.85), Sweden (3:19.60), and France (3:21.00), Popov's Russia was disqualified due to an early relay launch from Andrey Kapralov on the lead-off leg.
The Dutch team, without Pieter van den Hoogenband in the morning preliminary heats, nonetheless managed to set the fastest time with a 3:18.32, but they were eliminated from the final race after Dennis Rijnbeek made an illegal early jump during the second exchange.
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Feb 7, 2023 • 57min
How Matt Eversmann went from College Dropout to US Army Ranger - the Black Hawk Down Story
Matt Eversmann joined the US Army's 75th Ranger Regiment and was part of the famous Black Hawk Down mission. He was a poor college student and joined the Army to get his life back on track. He found that the standards in the Ranger Regiment were much higher than he expected. He was given great authority and responsibility and found it to be a compelling opportunity.
In this interview you will learn...
Qualities and Distinctions Required to Join the Ranger Regiment
- Matt Everman's decision to join the Army
- Qualities and distinctions that enabled him to become an Army Ranger
- Standards applied to members of the Ranger Regiment
Applying these Lessons to Swimming
- Sacrifice and dedication required to achieve excellence in swimming
- High standards and expectations for swimmers and coaches
- The importance of setting goals and striving to reach them
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Feb 6, 2023 • 47min
Fast Swims of the Week + Thormeyer Popped for PED's + Teri McKeever let go + Q&A
Every Monday morning at 8AM EST, Brett and Sonny discuss what's been going on in the world of swimming. They end with a Q&A session. Catch up with the top swimming stories across the globe.
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Fast Swims of the Week:
Apostolos Siskos, not to be confused with Apostolos Christos, blasted a 1:56.79 long course 200 backstroke. Christos retains his Greek record. But for how much longer? The 17 year old Siskos is improving rapidly. He's down another 2 seconds since Euros last year.
Adam Peaty, the double Olympic champion, kicked off his season with 27.10 in the 50m breaststroke and 59.57 in the 100m breaststroke at the 2023 Southport Olympic Preparation Meet in Australia. A few Brits have been training in Australia, avoiding the rain and 38 degree weather back home.
The 200 Free Olympic Champ, Tom Dean, went a spicy 1:46.33.
There was a two day meet in Saint-Germain-en-Laye. Logan Fontaine went 15:10 in the 1500. Maxime Grousset went 22.3/49.1 in the Frees and 23.3/52.0 in the Flies.
French backstroker and European Champion, Yohann Ndoye-Brouard, fractured his elbow on December 27th while skiing. He has been out of the water for 6 weeks.
Leon Marchand continues to tear short course yards swimming a new rear-end. Over the weekend he went 4:07 in the 500 Free in a dual meet. He also dropped a 44.7 100 Back — also good for the #1 time this year. Leon is now the fastest swimmer in the NCAA in 7 different events.
BTW, in front of a full crowd, Arizona didn't win a single swimming event vs. Arizona State. OuChhhhhh.
Last but not least, Kate Douglass of UVA broke her own NCAA record in the 200 Breast during a time trial that the NCAA won't recognize. But, 2:01.43 is still ridiculous and the new American Record.

Feb 4, 2023 • 3min
Rowdy Gaines' Mount Rushmore of Swim Coaches
The voice of swimming puts a few American coaches on his Mount Rushmore of swim coaches.
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