

The Curious Task
Institute for Liberal Studies
We explore philosophy, politics, economics, and other ideas from a classical liberal perspective.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Sep 10, 2025 • 59min
Tyler Cowen - Who Is The Greatest Economist Of All Time?
In this conversation from 2024,
Matt speaks with Tyler Cowen about his recent book "GOAT:
Who is the Greatest Economist of all Time and Why Does it Matter?", as they discuss the case for and against each of the top finalists, and the interactive AI features that Tyler has integrated into the book's online release.
Episode Notes:
The full book plus all interactive AI features can be found for free here: https://goatgreatesteconomistofalltime.ai/en

Sep 3, 2025 • 57min
Aaron Powell - Is Fusionism Dead?
In this episode from 2022, Alex speaks with Aaron Powell about the origins of fusionism, where it stands today, and why non-traditional alliances might be the way of the future.
References
1. Free Thoughts Podcast
Link: https://www.libertarianism.org/podcasts/free-thoughts
2. ReImagining Liberty Podcast
Link: https://www.reimaginingliberty.com/podcast/
3. “After protests, Disney CEO speaks out against ‘Don’t Say Gay’ bill” by Elizabeth Blair
Link: https://www.npr.org/2022/03/08/1085130633/disney-response-florida-bill-dont-say-gay
4. “An Introduction to Marxism for Non-Marxists” ReImagined Podcast Episode
Link: https://www.reimaginingliberty.com/an-introduction-to-marxism-for-non-marxists-w-ian-bennett/

Aug 27, 2025 • 51min
Mike Munger - What Is The Difference Between Directionalism and Destinationism?
In this conversation from 2023, Alex and Mike Munger discuss two strains of thought within the liberty movement - one concerned with philosophical purity and cohesion, the other with advancement towards a common ideal of greater freedom for all.
Episode Notes:
Mike's article "The Right Kind of Nothing": https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-right-kind-of-nothing/
An introduction to Coasian bargaining:
http://www.ejolt.org/2015/09/coasian-bargaining-2/
The Piece commissioned by Leonard Read by Milton Friedman and George Stigler on Rent Control:
https://fee.org/resources/roofs-or-ceilings-the-current-housing-problem/
Mike Munger's piece "This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things"
https://www.aier.org/article/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things-directionalists-vs-destinationists/
James Buchanan on Relatively Absolute Absolutes
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11127-021-00883-0

Aug 20, 2025 • 1h 6min
Pete Boettke - Is Hayek Still Relevant?
In this conversation from 2023, Alex speaks with Pete Boettke about the relevancy of Friedrich Hayek in the contemporary context, what it means to be a "Hayekian" and the curious tale of how Hayek came to be the focus of his latest book "F. A. Hayek: Economics, Political Economy and Social Philosophy"
Episode Notes
Pete’s book “F. A. Hayek: Economics, Political Economy and Social Philosophy“ https://a.co/d/ah7SpwW
Hayek on The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/friedrich-hayek/
Introduction to Hayek’s “Road to Serfdom” https://mises.org/library/road-serfdom-0
Murray Rothbard’s “Man, Economy and State” retrospective https://fee.org/articles/rothbards-man-economy-and-state-at-50/
Milton Friedman’s “Free To Choose” https://www.proglocode.unam.mx/sites/proglocode.unam.mx/files/docencia/Milton%20y%20Rose%20Friedman%20-%20Free%20to%20Choose.pdf
Hayek “Prices and Production” https://mises.org/library/prices-and-production-and-other-works
Introduction to economics of Lucas https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/bios/Lucas.html
Steve Horowitz on Hayek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5dR0zgC1ZI
Herbert Dreyfuss “What Computers Can’t Do” https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262540674/what-computers-still-cant-do/
Horowitz quote on Hayek “we have to learn to live in two worlds at once” https://www.jstor.org/stable/41560288
Hayek’s “The Fatal Conceit” https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/F/bo3643985.html
Kenneth Boulding “After Samuelson, Who Needs Adam Smith?” https://read.dukeupress.edu/hope/article-abstract/3/2/225/12381/After-Samuelson-Who-Needs-Adam-Smith
“The Extended Present” (concept) https://medium.com/extended-present/about
The “Grapes vs. Cucumbers as pay for Monkeys” experiment (youtube video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meiU6TxysCg
The Constitution of Liberty - Hayek https://www.mises.at/static/literatur/Buch/hayek-the-constitution-of-liberty.pdf
Chandran Kukathas’ Liberal Archipelago https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-liberal-archipelago-9780199219209?cc=ca&lang=en&
Kind vs. Wicked learning environments. https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/experience-studio/202007/experience-kind-vs-wicked

Aug 13, 2025 • 47min
Robert Poole - What's Wrong With America's Highways?
In this episode, Alex speaks with transportation policy expert Robert Poole about his book Rethinking America’s Highways. Poole makes the case for replacing the current tax-funded, politically managed highway system with a customer-focused, market-based model. He outlines how tolling, public-private partnerships, and long-term concessions can improve infrastructure, reduce congestion, and provide sustainable funding. The discussion examines lessons from international examples, the political and technical barriers to reform, and why a shift in mindset is essential for meeting America’s future mobility needs.
References
Rethinking America’s Highways — Robert Poole
https://a.co/d/1gu8lWE
Robert Poole — Reason Foundation Profile
https://reason.org/author/robert-poole/
Modernizing the Interstate Highway System via Toll Finance — Robert Poole (Reason Foundation)
https://reason.org/policy-study/modernizing-the-interstate-highway/
Funding & Finance — Eno Center for Transportation
https://enotrans.org/topics/funding-finance/
The Big Roads — Earl Swift
https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/the-big-roads
Infrastructure Economics and Policy: International Perspectives — José A. Gómez-Ibáñez & Zhi Liu (eds.)
https://www.booktopia.com.au/infrastructure-economics-and-policy-jose-a-gomez-ibanez/book/9781558444188.html
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Aug 6, 2025 • 1h 9min
Kevin Vallier - What Are The New Religious Threats To Liberalism?
Kevin Vallier, an associate professor of philosophy at Bowling Green State University, dives into his book addressing the rising religious threats to liberalism. He discusses integralism's blend of church and state, along with its historical context. Vallier also examines the nuances of Islamic anti-liberalism and Sharia governance, highlighting potential democratic pathways. The conversation further explores Confucian critiques of liberalism and the complexities of engaging with religious beliefs in a modern political landscape.

Jul 30, 2025 • 1h 4min
Brian Dijkema - Did Liberalism Fail?
In this episode, Matt speaks with Brian Dijkema of Cardus, about the moral limits of modern liberalism. Dijkema argues that while classical liberalism emerged from a tradition concerned with virtue and the common good, today’s liberalism often treats neutrality and technocratic governance as ends in themselves. They discuss the work of classical liberal theorists, Rawls' liberal vision, the legacy of Christian social thought, and how institutional renewal requires more than procedural fairness but rather a shared vision of the good.
References:
Brian Dijkema — Profile (Cardus)
https://www.cardus.ca/personnel/brian-dijkema/
“Liberty, Equality, … Disintegration?” — Patrick Deneen in conversation with Brian Dijkema
https://comment.org/liberty-equality-disintegration/
“Labor’s Conservative Heart” — Brian Dijkema (American Compass)
https://americancompass.org/labors-conservative-heart/
Why Liberalism Failed — Patrick Deneen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Liberalism_Failed
“The Ethics of Attention in an Age of Distraction” — Brian Dijkema
https://digitalcommons.georgefox.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1146&context=icctej
Brian Dijkema — Contributor Archive (Convivium)
https://www.convivium.ca/writers/bio/bdijkema/page/2/
Brian Dijkema — Articles at Comment Magazine
https://comment.org/contributors/brian-dijkema/
“The Classical Liberal Diaspora” — Michael C. Munger
https://dukespace.lib.duke.edu/items/513d2184-ca95-4508-b4ef-f137a03b32f0
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Jul 23, 2025 • 59min
Chandran Kukathas - What’s Wrong With Immigration Control?
In this episode from 2022, Alex speaks with Chandran Kukathas about the costs of limiting immigration and what effects there may be on policy if the question of who counts as an immigrant is itself unclear.
References
1. “Immigration and Freedom” by Chandran Kukathas
Link: https://www.amazon.com/Immigration-Freedom-Chandran-Kukathas/dp/0691189684

Jul 16, 2025 • 1h 20min
Pete Boettke — What Is The Curious Task of Economics?
In this conversation from 2020, Alex Aragona chats with Pete Boettke as he dives into what the curious task of economics is and relates it back to the work of Friedrich Hayek.
References from Episode 40 with Pete Boettke
You can purchase Pete Boettke’s book on F.A. Hayek on Amazon Canada here
Check out Pete Boettke’s economics blog here

Jul 9, 2025 • 49min
Bruce Pardy - Freedom Or Virtue?
In this episode, Matt speaks with legal scholar Bruce Pardy about the deep tension between freedom and virtue. Pardy argues that “freedom people” - classical liberals and libertarians - see virtue as something that can only emerge when individuals are free to choose, while “virtue people” believe virtue must come first, even if enforced by the state. They explore the limits of state neutrality, city planning, drug policy, and the rise of authoritarian instincts across both the right and the left. Pardy explains why a truly free society is risky - and why that risk is necessary for genuine virtue and responsibility.
References:
“Freedom and Virtue: Friends or Enemies?” — Bruce Pardy (Brownstone Institute)
https://brownstone.org/articles/freedom-and-virtue-friends-or-enemies/
Bruce Pardy — Profile (Fraser Institute)
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/profile/bruce-pardy
Bruce Pardy — Author Page (The Epoch Times)
https://www.theepochtimes.com/author/bruce-pardy
The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich Hayek
https://a.co/d/cp4rlD5
The Open Society and Its Enemies by Karl Popper
https://a.co/d/iVwmVvs
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