
The Curious Task
We explore philosophy, politics, economics, and other ideas from a classical liberal perspective.
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May 7, 2025 • 1h 1min
Alan Elrod - How Should Liberals Think About Children?
Janet speaks with Alan Elrod to explore how classical liberalism understands the role of children in a free society. They discuss the liberal view of children as future autonomous individuals, the responsibilities of both parents and the state in their development, and how education sits at the center of ongoing ideological battles. Elrod unpacks the liberal commitment to individual flourishing and critiques contemporary efforts to politicize childhood through authoritarian or illiberal frameworks.
References
“Children Are the Future: Authoritarianism, Culture War and Making Model Citizens” by Alan Elrod
https://www.liberalcurrents.com/children-are-the-future-authoritarianism-culture-war-and-making-model-citizens/
“Parents, Government and Children: Authority over Education in the Liberal Pluralist State” by William A. Galston (Chapter in Liberal Pluralism)
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/liberal-pluralism/parents-government-and-children-authority-over-education-in-the-liberal-pluralist-state/4FEF2172B5BD8B088A4D0558C11E1A1B
The Open Society and Its Enemies by Karl Popper
https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/O/bo3619943.html
Democratic Education by Amy Gutmann
https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt7sdfv
On Liberty by John Stuart Mill
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/34901
Taking Responsibility for Children edited by Samantha Brennan and Robert Noggle
https://www.wlupress.wlu.ca/Books/T/Taking-Responsibility-for-Children
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Apr 30, 2025 • 1h 8min
Chris Freiman — Is it Okay to Ignore Politics?
In this conversation from 2020, Alex Aragona speaks with Christopher Freiman as he explores why you might be happier, and ultimately contribute more to society, if you choose to ignore politics.
References from Episode 31 with Chris Freiman:
You can purchase Chris Freiman’s book when it’s out here
You can check out the Bleeding Heart Libertarians blog here
You can purchase Bryan Caplan’s book ‘The Myth of the Rational Voter’ on Amazon Canada here

Apr 23, 2025 • 1h 15min
Graeme Thompson - What Is Canada's Role In The World?
Alex Aragona speaks with Graeme Thompson about Canada's evolving role on the global stage, from Confederation through to the post-Cold War era and into the geopolitical uncertainties of today. They explore Canada’s historical balancing act between major powers, its close alignment with the United Kingdom and later the United States, and its present-day challenges in maintaining global relevance amid military underinvestment and economic stagnation. Thompson argues that Canada must become more serious about geopolitics if it wants to protect its sovereignty and remain influential internationally.
References
“Canadians no longer take geopolitics seriously – and our neglect is going to cost us” by Graeme Thompson (The Hub)
https://thehub.ca/2024-04-03/graeme-thompson-canadians-no-longer-take-geopolitics-seriously-and-our-neglect-is-going-to-cost-us/
Biography Collection: Ogdensburg Agreement and Canadian Wartime Diplomacy (Dictionary of Canadian Biography)
https://www.biographi.ca/en/topics/topic-match-list.php?id=1504
Statute of Westminster (1931) – Recognized Canada’s legislative independence from Britain
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/statute-of-westminster
NATO Archives: Canada's Role and Early Involvement
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/declassified_161511.htm
Canada–U.S. Automotive Products Agreement (Auto Pact)
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/canada-us-automotive-products-agreement
Lament for a Nation by George Grant
https://a.co/d/bnRI7Rb
Canada’s Military Expenditure and NATO’s 2% Spending Target (Parliamentary Budget Officer)
https://www.pbo-dpb.ca/en/publications/RP-2223-010-S--canada-military-expenditure-nato-2-spending-target--depenses-militaires-canada-objectif-depenses-2-otan
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Apr 16, 2025 • 59min
Iain Murray - What Has Happened to Conservatism?
In this episode from 2023, Matt speaks with Iain Murray about the estrangement of conservative liberalism from identitarian forms of conservative nationalism and the intriguing alliances that may arise in the future between freedom-loving libertarians and some unlikely allies.
Episode Notes:
Iain's book "The Socialist Temptation" https://a.co/d/5AUQHQp
One of Iain's articles on the subject https://cei.org/blog/european-populism-is-nationalist-conservatism/
"Do Libertarians Have a Political Home Anymore?" by Iain Murray https://www.acton.org/religion-liberty/volume-35-number-1-2/do-libertarians-have-political-home-anymore
Summary of Hillbilly Elegy by JD Vance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillbilly_Elegy
Ezra Klein's comment on "Everything Bagel Liberalism" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/02/opinion/democrats-liberalism.html

Apr 9, 2025 • 51min
What Happened To The Carbon Tax? - Franco Terrazzano
Matt speaks with Franco Terrazzano about the carbon tax within the broader context of government spending, taxation, and fiscal responsibility in Canada. They discuss the impact of high government debt, the role of the federal budget, and the long-term consequences of deficit spending. Terrazzano critiques the federal carbon tax, arguing that it places an unnecessary burden on Canadians while failing to achieve its intended environmental goals, and points to some glaring instances of hypocrisy on the part of its supporters.
References
Axing the Tax: 100 Simple and Painless Ways to Save Money on Your Taxes by Franco Terrazzano
https://a.co/d/azlHzK6
"Carbon tax costs average Ontario family $627 this year" by Franco Terrazzano (Canadian Taxpayers Federation)
https://www.taxpayer.com/newsroom/carbon-tax-costs-average-ontario-family-627-this-year
"PBO confirms carbon tax costs more than rebates" by Franco Terrazzano (Canadian Taxpayers Federation)
https://www.taxpayer.com/newsroom/pbo-confirms-carbon-tax-costs-more-than-rebates
"Carbon tax bureaucracy costs taxpayers $800 million" by Franco Terrazzano (Canadian Taxpayers Federation)
https://www.taxpayer.com/newsroom/carbon-tax-bureaucracy-costs-taxpayers-800-million
"Cut taxes and government spending to combat inflation" by Franco Terrazzano (EnergyNow)
https://energynow.ca/2022/02/news-release-cut-taxes-and-government-spending-to-combat-inflation
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Apr 2, 2025 • 1h 4min
Graeme Thompson — What Is Canadian Liberalism?
In this episode from 2021, Alex Aragona speaks with Graeme Thompson about the classical liberal tradition in Canada, and what the evolution of that tradition has looked like.
References from The Curious Task Episode 94 with Graeme Thompson
A collection of the speeches of Wilfred Laurier can be found in an edited edition by Arthur Milnes, available from Amazon here.
Macdonald Laurier and the Election of 1891 by Christopher Pennington can be found from Penguin House here.
Graeme Thompson’s piece “Whatever Happened to Laurier” can be found in the National Post here.
Graeme mentions positive and negative liberty by Isaiah Berlin, which is discussed on the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy here.
The works of Adam Smith, Edmund Burke, and J.S. Mill can be read for free through the Online Library of Liberty.

Mar 26, 2025 • 53min
Matt McManus - Is Liberal Socialism An Oxymoron?
Matt Bufton speaks with Matt McManus about the philosophical foundations of liberalism and socialism, exploring how these two traditions intersect and diverge. They discuss McManus’ work on the political theory of liberal socialism, the historical tensions between the two ideologies, and the ways in which contemporary political movements reflect aspects of both. The conversation also touches on critiques of classical liberal thought, the role of the state in economic justice, and the potential for a synthesis between liberal and socialist principles.
References
The Political Theory of Liberal Socialism by Matt McManus
https://www.routledge.com/The-Political-Theory-of-Liberal-Socialism/McManus/p/book/9781032647234?srsltid=AfmBOorDPxbjpTmpCJ2dgOznjWaxh8s53bHfYJ9odk360mjLFnf77MK_
A Critical Legal Examination of Liberalism and Liberal Rights by Matt McManus
https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-61025-8
Liberalism and Socialism: Mortal Enemies or Embittered Kin? (Edited by Matt McManus)
https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-79537-5
Why Socialists Shouldn’t Reject Liberalism An interview with
Matt McManus (Jacobin Magazine)
https://jacobin.com/2024/08/socialism-liberalism-mill-marx-moyn
Matt's portfolio on Academia.edu
https://umich.academia.edu/MatthewMcManus
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Mar 19, 2025 • 1h 31min
James R. Harrigan - What Is Going On Down There?
Alex Aragona speaks with James Harrigan about U.S.-Canada relations, with a focus on tariffs, trade policy, and economic misunderstandings that shape political discourse. James critiques the expansion of tariffs under Trump and challenges the idea that protectionism helps domestic industries. The conversation highlights the historical benefits of free trade, the consequences of government intervention in markets, and the flawed assumptions underlying modern trade restrictions.
References
James on X:
https://x.com/jamesrharrigan
The Centre for American Culture and Ideas:
https://thecaci.org/
The Words And Numbers Podcast:
https://wordsandnumbers.libsyn.com/
"Fair Trade Encourages Free Trade" by James Harrigan and Antony Davies:
https://archive.triblive.com/opinion/featured-commentary/antony-davies-james-r-harrigan-fair-trade-encourages-free-trade/
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Mar 12, 2025 • 50min
Don Boudreaux - Why Are We In A Trade War?
Matt Bufton speaks with Don Boudreaux about tariffs, free trade, and the economic misunderstandings that drive protectionist policies. Don critiques the balance of trade doctrine, drawing from historical examples and economic theory to explain why tariffs harm both consumers and producers. The discussion covers the impact of tariffs on the U.S. and Canada, how politicians exploit economic misconceptions, and why a policy of unilateral free trade would be the best path forward.
References
Globalization by Don Boudreaux
Paperback: https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/globalization-9780313342134/
The Essential Hayek by Don Boudreaux
Free PDF: https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/essential-hayek_0.pdf
"The Case for Free Trade" by Don Boudreaux (Mercatus Center)
https://www.mercatus.org/system/files/boudreaux-benefits-free-trade-ep-v2.pdf
"Don't Get Played By Protectionists" (Cafe Hayek)
https://cafehayek.com/2025/03/dont-get-played-by-protectionists.html
"On America's Trade Deficit With China" by Don Boudreaux
https://thedailyeconomy.org/article/on-americas-trade-deficit-with-china/
"Adam Smith Doesn't Like U.S. Trade Policy" by Stuart Anderson
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2018/07/18/adam-smith-doesnt-like-u-s-trade-policy/
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Mar 5, 2025 • 46min
Ryan Manucha - What's Stopping Interprovincial Trade?
Matt Bufton speaks with Ryan Manucha about interprovincial trade in Canada, focusing on the legal and economic barriers that hinder free trade between provinces. They discuss Ryan’s book Booze, Cigarettes, and Constitutional Dust-Ups, examining how constitutional law, historical disputes, and political inertia have shaped Canada’s fragmented trade landscape. The conversation explores key legal cases, the role of the Supreme Court, and potential reforms that could enhance economic cooperation across the country.
References
Booze, Cigarettes, and Constitutional Dust-Ups: Canada's Quest for Interprovincial Free Trade by Ryan Manucha
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/0228014417
Gold Seal Ltd. v. Alberta (Attorney-General) (1921) – Key legal case on interprovincial trade barriers
https://www.canlii.org/t/2f2ng
R. v. Comeau (2018) – Supreme Court decision on cross-border alcohol sales
https://decisions.scc-csc.ca/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/17059/index.do
Interprovincial Trade Barriers in Canada: Options for Moving Forward by Alvarez et al.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/383376202_Interprovincial_Trade_Barriers_in_Canada_Options_for_Moving_Forward
Provincial Red Tape Report Card by the Canadian Federation of Independent Business (CFIB)
https://www.cfib-fcei.ca/en/research-economic-analysis/provincial-red-tape-report-card
Internal Trade in Canada: Case for Liberalization by the International Monetary Fund (IMF)
https://www.imf.org/-/media/Files/Publications/WP/2019/WPIEA2019158.ashx
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