

Leading Consciously
Jean Latting
Conversations with forward-thinking leaders about patterns that keep us stuck and how the leaders are breaking the mold. Personal reflections on provocative topics and how to level up despite yourself. Get unstuck, change your story, become more effective. Join us.
The ability to lead consciously can open your eyes.
Jean Latting is an organizational consultant, inclusive leadership coach, and behavioral scientist.
The ability to lead consciously can open your eyes.
Jean Latting is an organizational consultant, inclusive leadership coach, and behavioral scientist.
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Jul 7, 2022 • 41min
Reclaiming history and identity: restoring tribal names in the national parks - with Bonnie McGill
What happens to a people’s identity when conquerors rename everything after themselves? How does the original owner’s history disappear?
How does this renaming appeal to the descendants of the conquerors? If the subjugated people are invisible, why should anyone bother to preserve them?
Dr. Bonnie McGill is on a mission to make indigenous people visible again.
#Identity #DiversityandInclusion #Diversity #BridgingDifferences
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Conversations with forward-thinking leaders about patterns that keep us stuck and how the leaders are breaking the mold. Personal reflections on provocative topics and how to level up despite yourself. Get unstuck, change your story, become more effective. Join us.
The ability to lead consciously can open your eyes.
Jean Latting is an organizational consultant, inclusive leadership coach, and behavioral scientist.

Jun 15, 2022 • 54min
Your ancestors' trauma doesn't have to be yours; how to heal and grow - with Jasmin Joseph
Do you wonder to what extent our parents’ and grandparents’ history affects our mental health? How much of what we treat as mental illness is a result of the trauma they experienced? And whose fault is it? Or maybe it’s no one’s fault.
This time Jean interviews Jasmin Joseph, a writer, researcher, and aspiring producer, on intergenerational trauma and how it impacts mental health. Jasmin has written about generational trauma and her own experiences with it as the child of American Black and Caribbean Black parents.
#MentalHealth #Trauma #GenerationalTrauma #InnerChild
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Conversations with forward-thinking leaders about patterns that keep us stuck and how the leaders are breaking the mold. Personal reflections on provocative topics and how to level up despite yourself. Get unstuck, change your story, become more effective. Join us.
The ability to lead consciously can open your eyes.
Jean Latting is an organizational consultant, inclusive leadership coach, and behavioral scientist.
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References:
[1] Joseph J (2022). Healing generational trauma. Yes! Magazine.
[2] Therapy for Black girls.
[3] Transgenerational Transmission of Historical Trauma
[4] Kirmayer LJ, JP Gone, J Moses (2014). Rethinking historical trauma. Sage Journals.

Jun 8, 2022 • 52min
You'll never succeed: How to avoid the trap of negative self talk - with Kira Banks
Dr. Kira Banks works to remove the emotional power of oppression from being internalized, using a form of therapy called Acceptance Commitment Therapy (ACT).
"Internalized oppression," she believes, becomes a part of you. Better to conceptualize it as "appropriated," because then you can put it down. Through ACT, people learn to separate their feelings about their oppression from their actual selves.
This time Jean interviews Dr. Kira about her work. Are you interested in how this works?
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Conversations with forward-thinking leaders about patterns that keep us stuck and how the leaders are breaking the mold. Personal reflections on provocative topics and how to level up despite yourself. Get unstuck, change your story, become more effective. Join us.
The ability to lead consciously can open your eyes.
Jean Latting is an organizational consultant, inclusive leadership coach, and behavioral scientist.
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Articles mentioned in the conversation
Banks, K. H., S. Goswami, et al. (2021). "Interrupting internalized racial oppression: A community based ACT intervention." Journal of contextual behavioral science 20: 89-93.
Sellers, R. M., M. A. Smith, et al. (1998). "Multidimensional model of racial identity: a reconceptualization of African American racial identity." Personality and social psychology review 2(1): 18-39.

May 18, 2022 • 1h 25min
Disrupting the school to prison pipeline: One teacher's mission - with Dave DeJohn
When a White man teaches in a Black school, he sees things that others may not. Dave DeJohn has insights on the school-to-prison pipeline, equality vs equity, and how to discipline effectively. What has he been able to accomplish? What does his research show? Listen to Jean’s discussion with Dave. His novel approach to disrupting the school-to-prison pipeline and his ability to understand multiple cultures brings him to this interview.
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Conversations with forward-thinking leaders about patterns that keep us stuck and how the leaders are breaking the mold. Personal reflections on provocative topics and how to level up despite yourself. Get unstuck, change your story, become more effective. Join us.
The ability to lead consciously can open your eyes.
Jean Latting is an organizational consultant, inclusive leadership coach, and behavioral scientist.
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Books mentioned in this interview:
McGhee, Heather (February 2021). The Sum of Us: What racism costs everyone and how we can prosper together. Penguin Random House.
Campbell-Rhone, Khalilah (March 2022). The Formula: Transforming a failing school in one of the nation’s deadliest zip codes from war zone to winning institution in one year.

May 15, 2022 • 59min
Sickle cell, sexual assault, and activism: How to turn adversity into victory - with André Marcel Harris
André Marcel Harris is an advocate for people with sickle cell disease and for men who are survivors of sexual assault, having lived experience in both.
In this interview, Jean asks André about his experience and his ability to thrive where others might have given up. They discuss how addressing social inequities that make it so much harder for people to access help requires awareness and sensitive disease management.
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Conversations with forward-thinking leaders about patterns that keep us stuck and how the leaders are breaking the mold. Personal reflections on provocative topics and how to level up despite yourself. Get unstuck, change your story, become more effective. Join us.
The ability to lead consciously can open your eyes.
Jean Latting is an organizational consultant, inclusive leadership coach, and behavioral scientist.

May 15, 2022 • 40min
Healing the Heart of America: How to Have Safe and Meaningful Conversations
A barrier to racial understanding is the fear of being exposed as a racist. What if we could find a safe place to have these uncomfortable conversations? The purpose of this deep and revealing interview was to build trust, examine hard truths about the past and present, and share the lived experiences of those who participated.
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Conversations with forward-thinking leaders about patterns that keep us stuck and how the leaders are breaking the mold. Personal reflections on provocative topics and how to level up despite yourself. Get unstuck, change your story, become more effective. Join us.
The ability to lead consciously can open your eyes.
Jean Latting is an organizational consultant, inclusive leadership coach, and behavioral scientist.

May 14, 2022 • 45min
The Circle of Courage: How to Rear Children in a Supportive World - with Larry Brendtro
What is it like for children to grow up in an atmosphere of caring and acceptance? Dr. Larry Brendtro has worked with Indigenous children and has written many books based on Indigenous principles of child-rearing. He founded Resilience Resources based on his work with troubled and Indigenous youth. In this interview, Jean and Larry navigate what can be learned from the Native American approach to child-rearing. Watch the Circle of Courage graphic here.
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Conversations with forward-thinking leaders about patterns that keep us stuck and how the leaders are breaking the mold. Personal reflections on provocative topics and how to level up despite yourself. Get unstuck, change your story, become more effective. Join us.
The ability to lead consciously can open your eyes.
Jean Latting is an organizational consultant, inclusive leadership coach, and behavioral scientist.

May 13, 2022 • 57min
Turning Passivity into Strength: How to Overcome Self-Doubt and Self-Sabotage - with Peter Michaelson
Peter Michaelson has written eight books on depth psychology and inner conflict, how to
surface your emotions, and how to accept responsibility for your reactions. Do you feel you have to sit on your feelings? Being passive or angry is not only counterproductive but reinforces your negative self-talk. Listen as Peter explains how to throw off self-doubt and self-sabotage so you can realistically navigate a difficult world and break out of this cycle.
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Conversations with forward-thinking leaders about patterns that keep us stuck and how the leaders are breaking the mold. Personal reflections on provocative topics and how to level up despite yourself. Get unstuck, change your story, become more effective. Join us.
The ability to lead consciously can open your eyes.
Jean Latting is an organizational consultant, inclusive leadership coach, and behavioral scientist.

May 12, 2022 • 1h 5min
Emotional trauma stored in your body? You can learn how to release it - with Danielle Murphy
Danielle Murphy, LCSW SEP, is a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner who understands the body language of stress and how to bypass the spoken narrative to address it. Is it possible to move beyond anguished hypervigilance or suppression so we can face our obstacles and enjoy our lives? Danielle says yes, and she can help us learn how.
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Conversations with forward-thinking leaders about patterns that keep us stuck and how the leaders are breaking the mold. Personal reflections on provocative topics and how to level up despite yourself. Get unstuck, change your story, become more effective. Join us.
The ability to lead consciously can open your eyes.
Jean Latting is an organizational consultant, inclusive leadership coach, and behavioral scientist.

May 12, 2022 • 54min
What connects Black Lives Matter, effemiphobia, and magic wands? - with Brandon Mack
What is internalized oppression? What is it like for a member of a marginalized group to be rejected by their own people? How does activism foster a sense of liberation and negate internalized oppression? Activists Brandon Mack and Jean answer all these questions.
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Conversations with forward-thinking leaders about patterns that keep us stuck and how the leaders are breaking the mold. Personal reflections on provocative topics and how to level up despite yourself. Get unstuck, change your story, become more effective. Join us.
The ability to lead consciously can open your eyes.
Jean Latting is an organizational consultant, inclusive leadership coach, and behavioral scientist.