
DevOps and Docker Talk: Cloud Native Interviews and Tooling
Interviews from Bret Fisher's live show with co-host Nirmal Mehta. Topics cover container and cloud topics like Docker, Kubernetes, Swarm, Cloud Native development, DevOps, SRE, GitOps, DevSecOps, platform engineering, and the full software lifecycle. Full show notes and more info available at https://podcast.bretfisher.com
Latest episodes

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Jun 6, 2025 • 41min
Heroku + MCP = The Fastest Way to Run AI Agents in the Cloud
Julián Duque, Principal Developer Advocate at Heroku, dives into the transformative capabilities of their AI platform. He discusses Heroku's shift to Kubernetes and the significance of Master Control Points (MCP), which streamline workflows and boost productivity. Listeners get insights into deploying AI-driven applications seamlessly using new features like PG Vector and integrating vector databases. Duque also highlights future prospects for Heroku's AI tools, empowering developers to leverage AI more effectively in their projects.

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Jun 4, 2025 • 27min
Is AI ready for DevOps?
At KubeCon London, hosts delve into how AI agents are set to revolutionize DevOps by enhancing automation and troubleshooting. They discuss the unique capabilities of AI agents compared to traditional AI models and the significance of the emerging Model Context Protocol (MCP). The conversation also reflects on the changing landscape of platform engineering as AI streamlines infrastructure tasks like EKS cluster creation with Terraform. Listeners are prompted to consider the balance between innovation and responsible automation in their evolving roles.

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May 24, 2025 • 39min
What you missed at KubeCon
Dive into the highlights from KubeCon EU 2025, where AI trends dominated discussions alongside platform engineering challenges. Discover the evolving landscape of Kubernetes, especially its intersection with machine learning. The shrinking presence of open-source projects in the Project Pavilion raises eyebrows, while GPU utilization amidst economic uncertainty sparks conversations about efficiency. Lastly, explore the balance between innovation and stability in tech tools, emphasizing the need for community-focused development.

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Apr 21, 2025 • 13min
Docker Model Runner
Discover the exciting launch of Docker Model Runner, a game changer for running large language models with ease. Learn how it simplifies deployment and integrates seamlessly with Docker Desktop. Explore real-world use cases that showcase its potential. Hear about initial troubleshooting challenges faced during the beta release, including performance hiccups. Gain insights into how the platform plans to evolve with community feedback. Perfect for anyone seeking a private ChatGPT-like experience!

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Mar 26, 2025 • 17min
What's Coming in 2025?
This episode is about what I'm seeing and what I'm doing right now, and then for the rest of the year. There are three parts. First, I talk about what's about to happen for me for the next few weeks re going to London for KubeCon. Then what I'm planning to change in this podcast, as well as my other content on YouTube for the rest of the year. And lastly, I talk about some industry trends that I'm seeing that will force me, I think, to change the format of this show. I recorded the episode on March 22, 2025.★Topics★My work at KubeCon EU in LondonWhat's next for this Podcast and my YouTubeWhat's up with AI for DevOps?Creators & Guests
Beth Fisher - Producer
Bret Fisher - Host
(00:00) - What's Coming in 2025
(01:07) - Highlights I'm excited about re KubeCon
(04:35) - Changes to this Podcast
(05:58) - What's up with AI and "Agentic DevOps"?
(15:11) - Upcoming guests
You can also support my content by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news!Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses.Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com

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Mar 24, 2025 • 15min
Docker Build the best way with Docker Bake
Discover the game-changing Docker Bake Build tool that enhances automation and reproducibility in creating Docker images. Learn about its impressive benefits, including faster builds and multi-architecture support. Get insights on how to leverage Bake files to simplify your development process compared to traditional commands. Dive into practical examples and see how Docker's GitHub Actions and BuildKit can elevate your CI workflows. Plus, there's a visual version available for an engaging experience!

Feb 6, 2025 • 18min
Is Swarm at EOL?
I've been a big fan of Swarm since it was launched over a decade ago and I've made multiple courses on it that still sell. But, we recently got some news out of Mirantis that might be bad news. So I talked about it last week on my live stream.There's also a video version of this show on YouTube.★Topics★Blog post that sparked this discussion:https://www.portainer.io/blog/portainer-the-essential-tool-for-docker-swarm-users-facing-a-kubernetes-futureCreators & Guests
Cristi Cotovan - Editor
Beth Fisher - Producer
Bret Fisher - Host
(00:00) - Intro
(00:34) - Mirantis' Role in Swarm's Future
(01:52) - The Hope of Swarm being shipped in Docker Engine
(02:43) - Portainer's Perspective on Swarm's Viability
(04:27) - Swarm Community and Support
(05:47) - One Sentence Signals Change?
(08:37) - Swarm in Maintenance Mode
(10:47) - The Docker-Swarm Stack
(11:43) - Future of Swarm in Docker Engine
(13:52) - Integration Challenges
You can also support my content by subscribing to my YouTube channel and my weekly newsletter at bret.news!Grab the best coupons for my Docker and Kubernetes courses.Join my cloud native DevOps community on Discord.Grab some merch at Bret's Loot BoxHomepage bretfisher.com

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Jan 10, 2025 • 1h 12min
Best of Cloud Native 2024
Bret and Nirmal discuss the major advancements in cloud-native technologies during 2024, including Kubernetes evolution and the role of open-source projects. They explore the rise of Argo CD, emphasizing its ability to streamline deployment workflows, and examine AI integration in cloud-native architectures. Key topics include infrastructure automation breakthroughs, the challenges of managing multi-cluster environments, and predictions for the future of cloud-native technologies, especially concerning AI workloads and advanced hardware.

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Dec 27, 2024 • 1h 2min
Aikido: Is a Single DevSecOps Tool Possible?
Willem Delbare, co-founder of Aikido Security, dives into the pressing challenges of DevSecOps for smaller teams and solo practitioners. He discusses how Aikido consolidates various security tools into a single platform, simplifying processes like CVE scanning and vulnerability management. The conversation highlights the importance of automation, contextual awareness, and integrating security into the CI/CD workflow. Willem also explores how AI can revolutionize vulnerability management and shares insights on minimizing notification overload for developers.

Dec 13, 2024 • 1h 13min
DevOps Cert Prep using AI, with the KodeKloud Team
Bret chats with Vijin Palazhi and Mumshad Mannambeth from KodeKloud, highlighting their expertise in certification prep and hands-on labs. They dive into the impact of AI on learning platforms, revolutionizing tech education. Topics include the evolution of Kubernetes certifications, the shift to remote testing, and essential skills for developing with Kubernetes. The duo also discusses the importance of community and strategic learning paths for aspiring developers while introducing upcoming innovations in certification courses.