The Ambitious Bookkeeper Podcast

Serena Shoup, CPA
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Dec 17, 2025 • 1h 10min

225 ⎸ Recast: Become a Bookkeeper with Katie Ferro

Send us a textBefore we close things down for the holidays, I decided to bring back one of my favorite interviews from the vault. In 2021 during one of our Bookkeeping Biz Workshop rounds, I brought Katie on to chat about a program she had just created—which is still going strong today—in fact, has been revamped and redesiged since she created it, and I want to make sure you all know about it. But more so than that, I wanted to bring this conversation back to you in case you’re planning for the new year. This will give you some things to consider, especially if you’re balancing motherhood with building your business, or dreaming of starting your business in 2026.In this episode you’ll hear:Katie’s background: CPA → corporate → motherhood → bookkeeping business (and how she was “paid to quit” at the perfect time)The emotional reality of leaving corporate—even when it’s the right moveWhy the early seasons of motherhood are intense, and how that shapes business decisionsHow Katie’s bookkeeping business grew: referrals, small beginnings, pricing lessons, and early client expansionThe mindset shift: bookkeeping as a stable, scalable foundation (especially once you hire a team)Hiring earlier than feels comfortable: babysitters, cleaners, and bookkeepers as “buying back time”Why working at home with kids around can be harder than being fully out of the houseOffice space + opportunity cost: how one monthly client can fund the setup that changes everythingTraining a team the right way: slow client-by-client handoff, upfront time investment, long-term payoffClient continuity + freedom: not being the only person clients rely onKatie’s Become a Bookkeeper (BABS) course overview: Learn → Shadow → Apply (practicum)Resources mentioned in this episode:Become A BookkeeperConnect with Katie: : instagram.com/orderlyaccountingbykatieListen to Katie’s Podcast: Profits & ProseccoSign up for Become A BookkeeperThanks for listening. If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram stories and tag me @ambitiousbookkeeperFor more information about the Ambitious Bookkeeper Podcast or interest in our programs or mentoring visit our resources below:Visit our website: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.comFollow the Blog: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.com/blogConnect on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/serenashoupcpaThank you for your support of our show. If you haven’t left a review yet it’s super simple. Please go to ambitiousbookkeeper.com/podcast and leave your review.Podcast Publishing Tools we use:Editing → Sabr Media LLC: https://www.iangilliam.com/sabr-media-llcDescript: https://get.descript.com/u7lubkx09073 (affiliate link)Buzzsprout:
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Dec 10, 2025 • 43min

224 | Using Human-First AI for Visibility with Kelly Sinclair

Send us a textI had the best conversation with Kelly Sinclair about something that's been on my mind (and probably yours too): how to actually use AI without losing the human connection that makes your business YOU. We dive deep into why social media might not be the lead generator you think it is, how to build visibility strategies that don't rely on the algorithm, and how AI can actually help you show up MORE human, not less.In this episode you’ll hear:Why taking a break from social media might be the best business decision you makeHow to flip your AI mindset from "polish my work" to "support me first"The three ways to monetize AI in your businessResources mentioned in this episode:90 Day Visibility Sprint Starter Kit https://kellysinclair.thrivecart.com/the-90-day-visibility-sprint-podcast/?coupon=SERENAPODValerieBrand CalibratorNotebook LMChatGPTMindPalManyChatZapierQuickBooks OnlineMeet KellyKelly Sinclair is a visibility strategist, AI-powered marketing expert, and host of Entrepreneur School. An accidental tech nerd and professional mom taxi, she helps entrepreneurs ditch random acts of marketing, build visibility habits that actually work, and grow through intentional visibility—not by selling their soul to social media.Connect with KellyPodcast: https://entrepreneurschool.ca/podcast/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ksco_kelly/Thanks for listening. If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram stories and tag me @ambitiousbookkeeperFor more information about the Ambitious Bookkeeper Podcast or interest in our programs or mentoring visit our resources below:Visit our website: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.comFollow the Blog: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.com/blogConnect on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/serenashoupcpaThank you for your support of our show. If you haven’t left a review yet it’s super simple. Please go to ambitiousbookkeeper.com/podcast and leave your review.Podcast Publishing Tools we use:Editing → Sabr Media LLC: https://www.iangilliam.com/sabr-media-llcDescript: https://get.descript.com/u7lubkx09073 (affiliate link)Buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=1753696 (affiliate link)
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Dec 3, 2025 • 38min

223 | Using AI Securely + to Land Clients with Kelsey Silver

Send us a textIn this episode, I'm chatting with my friend Kelsey Silver about something so many of you have been asking about - how the heck are we supposed to use AI without compromising our clients' security? Kelsey has a super unique background and she breaks down exactly what we need to look for when evaluating AI tools for our firms. Plus, she shares about her AI app Foresight HQ that helps you identify your hottest leads in your Instagram DMs - no more chasing people who just wanted the freebie!In this episode you’ll hear:How to evaluate AI tools for securityThe difference between machine learning and generative AIHow Kelsey balances building an app, doing VIP days, working a corporate job, AND being a mom to a 4.5-year-oldResources mentioned in this episode:The Metrics 7-Figure Business Owners Can't Live Without: https://kelseysilver.com/metrics5 DM Signals $FREE: https://foresighthq.app/5signalsNotionThriveCart, High Level, and SamCartManyChatMeet KelseyKelsey Silver is a data and AI strategist and the founder of ForesightHQ, an AI-powered DM lead tracker designed for business owners who want to follow up in their DMs without feeling like a sales robot. With a background in psychology, 10+ years in corporate analytics, and a deep love for systems that actually fit your life, Kelsey helps entrepreneurs find the hidden gold in their data so they can sell smarter and with more integrity. When she’s not decoding buyer signals or mapping launch strategies, you can find her at a Ren Faire with her daughter or decompression from reading spreadsheets all day with a bag of Oreos and an oat milk chai latte.Connect with KelseyInstagram: @kelseyesilverWebsite: https://kelseysilver.com/App: https://foresighthq.appThanks for listening. If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram stories and tag me @ambitiousbookkeeperFor more information about the Ambitious Bookkeeper Podcast or interest in our programs or mentoring visit our resources below:Visit our website: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.comFollow the Blog: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.com/blogConnect on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/serenashoupcpaThank you for your support of our show. If you haven’t left a review yet it’s super simple. Please go to ambitiousbookkeeper.com/podcast and leave your review.Podcast Publishing Tools we use:Editing → Sabr Media LLC: https://www.iangilliam.com/sabr-media-llcDescript: https://get.descript.com/u7lubkx09073 (affiliate link)Buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=1753696 (affiliate link)
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Oct 29, 2025 • 13min

222 ⎸ Hubdoc: Audit-Proof Your Business

Send us a textThis episode is best watched on YouTube >In this episode, I'm walking you through one of my absolute favorite tools for keeping your business audit-proof: Hubdoc. I'll show you exactly how we use it at Of Course Financial to help our clients manage their supporting business documents digitally, save hundreds of hours every year, and stay compliant with IRS requirements. Plus, I've got some exciting announcements about upcoming Xero tutorials, the Bookkeeping Biz Workshops re-airing, and our Black Friday sale!In this episode you’ll hear:How Hubdoc automatically organizes receipts, invoices, and statements by vendorStep-by-step process for uploading, reviewing, and categorizing documents in Hubdoc before pushing them to Xero or QuickBooksPro tips on avoiding duplicate entries and keeping your books clean while building an audit-proof paper trailResources mentioned in this episode:https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/what-kind-of-records-should-i-keepFor experienced bookkeepers & accountants:Learn how to start your bookkeeping business in The Bookkeeping Business Accelerator® >>Grab my FREE Start your Bookkeeping Biz Checklist >>Grab my FREE New Client Onboarding Templates >>For new bookkeepers:Learn the fundamental accounting skills in Katie Ferro's Become a Bookkeeper** >>For creators:Become a client at my firm, Of Course Financial >>For more information about the Ambitious Bookkeeper Podcast or interest in our programs or mentoring visit our resources below:Visit my website: ambitiousbookkeeper.comSubscribe to my Newsletter ambitiousbookkeeper.com/blogConnect on Instagram: instagram.com/ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Threads: threads.net/@ambitiousbookkeeperPodcast Publishing Tools we use:Podcast Editing: Sabr Media LLCDescript**Buzzsprout**AFFILIATE DISCLAIMERWe participate in affiliate marketing programs, which means we may earn a commission from purchases made through the links above. However, our recommendations are based on our own research and expertise, and your trust is our priority.
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Oct 22, 2025 • 50min

221 ⎸ [Q&A] Pricing Cleanups, Marketing, and Cyber Insurance

Send us a textHey guys! This month's live Q&A was packed with real talk about the nitty-gritty of running a bookkeeping business. We covered everything from pricing cleanups (spoiler: diagnostics are your best friend) to getting cyber insurance (yes, it's non-negotiable), and I even got vulnerable about my experience juggling babies and business. If you've ever wondered how to market to trades, what reports clients actually need, or how to take maternity leave as a business owner, this episode is for you!In this episode you’ll hear:How to price cleanups without Getting BurnedMarketing Strategies that Actually Work for Your NicheCyber InsuranceMaternity Leave and BusinessResources mentioned in this episode:Jock Wols - featured on Ambitious Bookkeeper Podcast for cyber insurance discussion: https://youtu.be/QmXfN_PaKWEKarrisa Martino - Health Insurance Specialist: ambitiousbookkeeper.com/blog/121Elevate: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.com/elevateConfident Compliance Bundle: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.com/offers/tgPgMBJ7Mini Course Bundle: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.com/offers/vYYfsxH9Akadian: https://fastandeasyqbo.samcart.com/referral/ihiA1kYR/8Duca0gOuAg8wpjFEmail List - Sign up at: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.com/subscribeKeeper: https://keeper.app/?via=serenaCanva: https://www.canva.com/join/relish-scale-floristicUpcounsel: https://www.upcounsel.com/rf/8dCYxoOUHousecall Pro: https://link.hscll.com/3i3yrLady Pros Facebook GroupAlignableThanks for listening. If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram stories and tag me @ambitiousbookkeeperFor more information about the Ambitious Bookkeeper Podcast or interest in our programs or mentoring visit our resources below:Visit our website: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.comFollow the Blog: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.com/blogConnect on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/serenashoupcpaThank you for your support of our show. If you haven’t left a review yet it’s super simple. Please go to ambitiousbookkeeper.com/podcast and leave your review.Podcast Publishing Tools we use:Editing → Sabr Media LLC: https://www.iangilliam.com/sabr-media-llcDescript: https://get.descript.com/u7lubkx09073 (affiliate link)Buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsp
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Oct 15, 2025 • 9min

220 | I worked 45 hours in August; and it’s not on what you think

Send us a textsome links are affiliate linksWant to see my weekly timesheets? Follow me on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@ambitiousbookkeeperNo one talks enough about the amount of time that goes into an online course business. So I’m talking about it today.In this episode you’ll hear:My profit margins for both my firm & my online course businessthe time I spend during launches & fulfillmenthow much time I spent in August 2025 on both businessesResources mentioned in this episode:Clockify → timetrackingFor experienced bookkeepers & accountants:Learn how to start your bookkeeping business in The Bookkeeping Business Accelerator® >>Grab my FREE Start your Bookkeeping Biz Checklist >>Grab my FREE New Client Onboarding Templates >>For new bookkeepers:Learn the fundamental accounting skills in Katie Ferro's Become a Bookkeeper** >>For creators:Become a client at my firm, Of Course Financial >>For more information about the Ambitious Bookkeeper Podcast or interest in our programs or mentoring visit our resources below:Visit my website: ambitiousbookkeeper.comSubscribe to my Newsletter ambitiousbookkeeper.com/blogConnect on Instagram: instagram.com/ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Threads: threads.net/@ambitiousbookkeeperPodcast Publishing Tools we use:Podcast Editing: Sabr Media LLCDescript**Buzzsprout**AFFILIATE DISCLAIMERWe participate in affiliate marketing programs, which means we may earn a commission from purchases made through the links above. However, our recommendations are based on our own research and expertise, and your trust is our priority.
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Oct 8, 2025 • 54min

219 | Top Scams Happening to Bookkeepers in 2025 with Jock Wols

Send us a textCyber scams targeting bookkeepers are getting more sophisticated, and I'm sitting down with insurance expert Jock Wols to talk about what's happening in our industry right now. I even share my own recent experience being targeted through the Gusto partner directory—twice in one day! If you think it won't happen to you, think again. This conversation is packed with real stories, practical tips, and the insurance knowledge you need to protect your business in 2025.In this episode you’ll hear:The most common scams hitting bookkeepers right now, including phishing attacks through trusted directories like Gusto and QuickBooksMy personal story of almost falling victim to a payroll scam (and how one of those fake "clients" actually got to another bookkeeper)Why picking up the phone is your best defense against wire transfer fraudWhat cyber insurance actually covers (spoiler: not all policies are created equal) and the gaps you need to know aboutResources mentioned in this episode:Episode with Jock on Insurance BasicsBehind the Scenes Newsletter (Past Volumes) >watch the video version on YouTube >>Meet Jock WolsJock is the Founder and CEO of RiskDesk, an insurance broker and technology company based out of Lexington, Kentucky. In partnership with Nationwide, he established the PT Pro platform (https://www.ptprocover.com) to serve small business’ insurance needs. He has almost 20 years of experience to help professionals manage their risk by delivering market-leading E&O / Professional Liability and Cyber Liability insurance solutions. Before he established RiskDesk in 2017, Jock managed the professional liability portfolio at XL Catlin and was based in London, New York and Lexington. He graduated from Washington & Lee University with a BSc in 2004 and obtained his MBA from New York University in 2013.Connect with JockReach out directly to Jock at jock.wols@myriskdesk.com or (859) 327-5594.Thanks for listening. If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram stories and tag me @ambitiousbookkeeperFor more information about the Ambitious Bookkeeper Podcast or interest in our programs or mentoring visit our resources below:Visit our website: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.comFollow the Blog: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.com/blogConnect on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/serenashoupcpaThank you for your support of our show. If you haven’t left a review yet it’s super simple. Please go to ambitiousbookkeeper.com/podcast and leave your review.Podcast Publishing Tools we use:Editing → Sabr Media LLC: https://www.iangilliam.com/sabr-media-llcDescript: https://get.descript.com/u7lubkx09073 (affiliate link)Buzzsprout: https:
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Oct 1, 2025 • 50min

218 | Ready to *Actually* Learn QBO? With Margie Remmers-Davis

Send us a textIn this episode, I sat down with Margie Remmers-Davis, founder and CEO of Akadian Accounting Education, to talk about what it really takes to learn QuickBooks Online. If you've ever felt like the ProAdvisor certification didn't actually prepare you to do bookkeeping work, this conversation is for you. Margie shares her incredible journey from stay-at-home mom to bookkeeping educator, and we dive deep into how she's revolutionizing the way people learn QBO and bookkeeping.In this episode you’ll hear:How Margie went from a devastating divorce to building a thriving education company that's changing how bookkeepers learnThe truth about the QBO ProAdvisor certificationHow AI is going to change bookkeeping jobs and what you need to know right now to protect your career and stay relevantResources mentioned in this episode:Acadian Accounting Education: https://www.akadian.com"Everything Doc" Guide :https://www.akadian.com/everythingQBO Gym Locker Room: https://www.akadian.com/lockerroomBooks Match: https://www.booksmatch.usMeet MargiePressure is the only way to form diamonds. Margie Remmers-Davis, known as the Aha Queen of Accounting Education, is transforming what many consider a dry, boring subject into something practical, hands-on, engaging, and fun! After an unexpected divorce forced her to start over, she uncovered major gaps in accounting education while rebuilding her career through bookkeeping. Drawing on her background in software training, she founded Akadian Accounting Education, which has since empowered over 20,000 bookkeepers with the confidence, clarity, and skills to thrive. In recognition of its rapid growth and impact, Akadian was named to the prestigious Inc. 5000 list of America’s fastest-growing companies.Connect with Margie👥 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margie-remmers/📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@akadianeducationThanks for listening. If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram stories and tag me @ambitiousbookkeeperFor more information about the Ambitious Bookkeeper Podcast or interest in our programs or mentoring visit our resources below:Visit our website: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.comFollow the Blog: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.com/blogConnect on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/serenashoupcpaThank you for your support of our show. If you haven’t left a review yet it’s super simple. Please go to ambitiousbookkeeper.com/podcast and leave your review.Podcast Publishing Tools we use:Editing → Sabr Media LLC: https://www.iangilliam.com/sabr-media-llcDescript: https://get.descript.com/u7lubkx09073 (affiliate link)Buzzsprout:
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Sep 24, 2025 • 22min

217 ⎸ What You *Actually* Need to Start Your Bookkeeping Business

Send us a textHey there! In this episode, I'm breaking down exactly what you actually need to start your bookkeeping business - no fluff, just the tactical stuff that matters. As someone who accidentally started my bookkeeping business as a side hustle to motherhood and now mentors other bookkeepers, I'm sharing the five non-negotiables that will set you up for success from day one.In this episode you’ll hear:The complete education and experience foundation you needAll the paperwork and compliance stuff nobody talks aboutHow to actually get paidThe exact documents you need to ask every client for during onboardingMy honest take on pricingResources mentioned in this episode:Become a BookkeeperAkadian Accounting EducationRelay BankXeroPricing for ProfitAll Minicourses → StoreFor experienced bookkeepers & accountants:Learn how to start your bookkeeping business in The Bookkeeping Business Accelerator® >>Grab my FREE Start your Bookkeeping Biz Checklist >>Grab my FREE New Client Onboarding Templates >>For new bookkeepers:Learn the fundamental accounting skills in Katie Ferro's Become a Bookkeeper >>For online course creators:Become a client at my firm, Of Course Financial >>For more information about the Ambitious Bookkeeper Podcast or interest in our programs or mentoring visit our resources below:Visit our website: ambitiousbookkeeper.comFollow the Blog: ambitiousbookkeeper.com/blogConnect on Instagram: instagram.com/ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Threads: threads.net/@ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Facebook: Facebook.com/serenashoupcpaPodcast Publishing Tools we use:Podcast Editing: Sabr Media LLCDescript (affiliate link)Buzzsprout (affiliate link)AFFILIATE DISCLAIMERWe participate in affiliate marketing programs, which means we may earn a commission from purchases made through the links above. However, our recommendations are based on our own research and expertise, and your trust is our priority.
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Sep 17, 2025 • 38min

216 | Why You Might be Feeling Exhausted with Dariella Gonitzke

Send us a textIn this episode, I'm sharing my personal journey through toxic mold exposure and the health challenges that nearly broke me as a mom and business owner. I'm joined by my nutritionist Dariella Gonitzke, who I met at BBD Live when I was at my lowest point. We dive deep into how stress, environmental factors, and hormonal changes can completely derail your health - and what you can actually do about it.In this episode you’ll hear:How I went from a healthy mom to barely functioning due to toxic mold exposureWhy traditional medicine often misses the mark with exhausted womenThe connection between stress, mineral depletion, and why you might be craving salt all the timePractical strategies for supporting your body through midlife changesResources mentioned in this episode:Wellness audit - https://saravitanutrition.thrivecart.com/the-midlife-wellness-audit/YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SaravitaNutritionWebsite: https://saravitanutrition.com/Meet DariellaDariella Gonitzke is a registered dietitian and functional medicine practitioner dedicated to helping women overcome persistent health issues—like hormonal imbalances, digestive troubles, and stubborn weight gain—through personalized, holistic care. Drawing on her own healing journey with hormonal imbalances and migraines, she offers science-backed nutrition plans, advanced lab testing, and lifestyle support to uncover the root causes of symptoms and restore vitality. With a compassionate, “test‑not‑guess” approach, Dariella guides clients toward sustainable transformation—so they can feel energized, balanced, and fully themselves againConnect with Dariella📱 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nutrition.for.perimenopause/Thanks for listening. If this episode inspired you in some way, take a screenshot of you listening on your device and post it to your Instagram stories and tag me @ambitiousbookkeeperFor more information about the Ambitious Bookkeeper Podcast or interest in our programs or mentoring visit our resources below:Visit our website: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.comFollow the Blog: https://www.ambitiousbookkeeper.com/blogConnect on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@ambitiousbookkeeperConnect on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/serenashoupcpaThank you for your support of our show. If you haven’t left a review yet it’s super simple. Please go to ambitiousbookkeeper.com/podcast and leave your review.Podcast Publishing Tools we use:Editing → Sabr Media LLC: https://www.iangilliam.com/sabr-media-llcDescript: https://get.descript.com/u7lubkx09073 (affiliate link)Buzzsprout: https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=1753696 (affiliate link)

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