

Leading Second Podcast
Brandon Stewart
A monthly podcast to help church leaders thrive in the second chair.
Leading Second exists to equip local churches everywhere to raise up UNCOMMON leaders. In a culture that often celebrates individual achievement and being on top, Leading Second is here to raise up the kind of leaders every pastor would kill to have on the team. Leaders who are all-in, heart and soul for Jesus, His Church, and their team’s mission. In an ever changing world, we have conversations in real-time with pastors and leaders on topics such as church leadership, leading when you’re not in charge, healthy team culture, and how to lead in the second chair. To learn more, visit leadingsecond.com.
Leading Second exists to equip local churches everywhere to raise up UNCOMMON leaders. In a culture that often celebrates individual achievement and being on top, Leading Second is here to raise up the kind of leaders every pastor would kill to have on the team. Leaders who are all-in, heart and soul for Jesus, His Church, and their team’s mission. In an ever changing world, we have conversations in real-time with pastors and leaders on topics such as church leadership, leading when you’re not in charge, healthy team culture, and how to lead in the second chair. To learn more, visit leadingsecond.com.
Episodes
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Sep 21, 2023 • 47min
S6 Ep. 155 // Wade Joye on This Dream is Not For You
A dream is a wish your heart makes… but what do you do when the dream in your heart isn’t your reality? Wade Joye, a coach, speaker, podcaster, and author of This Dream Is Not For You, walks us through how to navigate through the reality we are currently in, accept the dreams that have been given to us, and accept when we might be called in a different direction than we thought our dream would go. This Dream Is Not For You is available wherever books are sold - Amazon, Barnes & Noble, etc, or visit wadejoye.com for more details.Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Sep 14, 2023 • 57min
S6 Ep. 154 // Manny Arango on Trusting God With Your Calling
Being a Second Chair Leader is a sobering position to hold. It takes a confident, humble, and faith-filled person to walk alongside a leader and follow as the leader has called them to do. Manny Arango, a teaching pastor at Social Dallas in Texas and the founder of ARMA, brings an unapologetic perspective on God’s process of refining us to serve Him and His Church.

Sep 7, 2023 • 49min
S6 Ep. 153 // Kevin Gerald on the Year of the Leader
There’s no perfect formula, but there are some vital areas that must be considered when talking about leadership. Brandon sits down with Kevin Gerald, Founder and Lead Pastor of Champions Centre in Washington State, to discuss our central theme for the year: The Year of the Leader. The need for leaders is all around us. We can’t change what’s happening everywhere, but we can do something where we have been placed.

Jul 27, 2023 • 47min
S6 Ep. 152 // Leadership Failures and Church Growth at All Costs
There have always been and will always be Church critics and when there are stories of any kind of leadership failure in the Church, they will have a feast on it. Brandon sits down with Josh Bingle, Lead Pastor at Genesis Church in Spokane, WA, and Jason Warman, Lead Pastor at CoastLife Church in Venice, FL, for a discussion on how we as the Church can address these areas and be proactive in preventing them. This conversation is spoken out of love for leaders and for the Church with the goal to see every leader walk in the fullness of God’s freedom. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Jul 20, 2023 • 1h 1min
S6 Ep. 151 // Racial Unity in the Church and What That Means for Church Leaders
We’re jumping right into what can sometimes be seen as an uncomfortable conversation about racial unity and the Church. Brandon, Josh Bingle, Lead Pastor at Genesis Church in Spokane, WA, and Jason Warman, Lead Pastor at CoastLife Church in Venice, FL are joined by Monique Duson, President at The Center for Biblical Unity, to discuss colliding kingdoms, to identify what systems are in the world today, and to recognize how to speak to believers about racial issues to bring understanding. Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Jul 13, 2023 • 33min
S6 Ep. 150 // Deconstruction, Gender Ideology, Sexuality, Boycotts and the Loud Social Media Landscape
Brandon, Josh Bingle, Lead Pastor at Genesis Church in Spokane, WA, and Jason Warman, Lead Pastor at CoastLife Church in Venice, FL, jump back into the discussion of the importance of the Church having an understanding and sound ability to communicate its stance on cultural issues. The discussion continues with a challenge in knowing the importance of definitions, being bold to discuss the uncomfortable, and seeking out how to lead in our culture.Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Jul 6, 2023 • 46min
S6 Ep. 149 // Postmodernism, Critical Theory, and the New Woke Religion
Postmodernism. Critical Theory. Woke Religion. Join us for a deep discussion on how we are called to walk through this new worldview and what our response to today’s culture should look like. Brandon, along with Josh Bingle, Lead Pastor at Genesis Church in Spokane, WA, and Jason Warman, Lead Pastor at CoastLife Church in Venice, FL, dives into a deep discussion on why these conversations matter, understanding wokeness and Critical Theory, and what truth means to culture versus the Church.Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

Jun 1, 2023 • 47min
S6 Ep. 148 // “I Am With You” with Todd Mullins & Dave Simiele
Being “all in” for your pastor and the church is foundational to being a Second Chair Leader. Todd Mullins and Dave Simiele from Christ Fellowship Church in Florida share how being strong in the vision of your lead pastor shapes how you lead others in the pastor’s vision for the church. This discussion calls each Second Chair Leader up to be the leader God has called them to be.Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

May 25, 2023 • 48min
S6 Ep. 147 // Omar El-Takrori on Losing Your Voice to Find It
Everything communicates. To be a strong communicator is to be a strong leader. Omar El-Takrori, the Community Pastor at City Light Church in Las Vegas, NV, brings incredible insight into how we can grow in our communication knowledge and confidence. Brandon, Jesse Rodriguez, the Location Pastor at the Yakima, WA, location for Champion Centre, and Stephanie Blanton, the Central Campus Pastor at Freedom House Church in Charlotte, NC, sit with Omar and discuss the varying aspects of leading through communication.Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast

May 18, 2023 • 55min
S6 Ep. 146 // John & Anna Morgan on Being a Number One Number Two
John and Dr. Anna Morgan from Word of Life Church in Springfield, VA dive into what it is to be a Second Chair Leader through the eyes of former Second Chair Leaders who are now First Chair Leaders. They bring honest and Biblical truths to how we are called to walk out what God has called us to do.Find the episode guides at leadingsecond.com/podcast


