

Teaching Meditation
Upasaka Upali & Dr. Tucker Peck
This is the only podcast we know of devoted to the teaching of meditation. We interview teachers and others about the process of teaching, how they became teachers, their thoughts on who should and shouldn't teach, tips for new and veteran teachers, and more. While teachers and prospective teachers of meditation will of course find lots to learn here, this is also a great resource for anyone who wants to peer behind the curtain of being a meditation teacher. You can learn more about your hosts Upali over here https://upalimeditation.com/ and about Tucker over here https://meditatewithtucker.com/
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Dec 2, 2025 • 1h 1min
Boaz Feldman: Relational Meditation
Upali interviews Boaz about the relational meditation practices he's been doing, including relational qi gong. Their conversation then pivots to the role Boaz sees meditation practice holding in healing and altering societies. Boaz will be speaking at a conference Dec 5 - 7, 2025, and you can find more information at this link. Boaz's newest paper is over here.Support the show

Nov 19, 2025 • 50min
Professor Steven Haberlin: Teaching Meditation in Academia
Professor Steven Haberlin is a professor at the University of Central Florida. In this episode, you'll hear him talk about teaching small amounts of meditation to very large amounts of people. Steven tells us about the benefits of this style of teaching, as well as what risks there are. The episode then focuses on research he's been doing on technological adjuncts to meditation and the use of meditation apps. The research forms part of his new book, Meta-Meditation for Mental Health: How Neuroscience, Virtual Reality, and AI are Changing Practice and How You Can Benefit.Support the show

Jul 11, 2025 • 59min
Learning Meditation: Anusheh. Meditation (Kinda) Resolved My Anxiety.
Upali interviews Anusheh, who began practicing The Mind Illuminated in order to improve her anxiety. While it did help, it was a more convoluted path than she had been expecting. One topic she and Upali talk about is the idea that striving is actually helpful, in that it causes you to burn out enough that you stop doing it, which is the route to good practice. Anusheh also talks about the transition from lusting after enlightenment -- "future happiness" -- with the focusing on what happiness could look like in the present moment. "Rejecting your experience right now takes a lot of energy!"Support the show

Jun 27, 2025 • 53min
Stephen Zerfas: Making the Jhanas Accessible
Stephen Zerfas, founder of Jhourney, is dedicated to making meditation accessible through the Jhanas. In this engaging discussion, he shares how these transformative experiences are gaining popularity in mainstream culture. Stephen reflects on the teacher-student relationship in meditation and the emotional challenges that can arise during retreats. He also explores the balance between desire and surrender in achieving jhana states, and introduces innovative retreat concepts that fit into modern life, emphasizing community building and the importance of support in the meditation journey.

Jun 13, 2025 • 1h 10min
Learning Meditation: Yuri. Using Meditation to Cope with War
Upali interviews Yuri, a Ukranian-British meditator. Yuri talks about how difficult his first retreat was, and how permanently his life changed following this. He then goes into how much better he became as a father as a result of his meditation practice. Later, Upali asks Yuri about what it was like when his country was attacked while his family was still there, and what impact his practice had on his ability to cope with this.Support the show

May 30, 2025 • 38min
Dr. Tucker Peck: Freedom is the Opposite of Community
Upali interviews Tucker in this episode. In a wide-ranging conversation, they touch on:Many of us look for self esteem to pretty much everyone we meet, or to no one at all, rather than in a sane place.Doing what you'd like to do, and being in community, are opposite stances. How do we balance these?Tucker talks about Sanity & Sainthood, both the name of his book and what he sees as the two goals of dharma practice and psychotherapy. This is distinguished from the point of practice being to get and keep an awesome feeling.Support the show

May 14, 2025 • 51min
Learning Meditation: Kacee. Dealing with Overwhelm in Meditation
Kacee is the first in a series Upali will do with guests who are longtime students, rather than teachers, of meditation. Kacee talks about a number of changes over her years as a practitioner, including her view of what to do when practice makes you feel worse, her view on integrating parts work into her meditation practice, and she deals with the inner critic.Support the show

Apr 25, 2025 • 54min
North Burn: Spending 20 Years on Retreat
Dharma teacher North Burn has been on a meditation retreat for most of the last twenty years. He teaches a 3-month retreat each spring in California. Tucker talks with North about choosing a monastic life rather than dating, marriage, and a career. North opens up about his relationship with his own teacher, including a period where their relationship was temporarily severed, and what this was like for him.For more information about North, head to https://boundlessness.org/ or contact team@boundless.org.Support the show

Mar 29, 2023 • 1h 16min
Marianne Bentzen: Intimacy and Playfulness; Trauma and Resource
Marianne Bentzen is a psychotherapist and trainer in neuroaffective development psychology. She is the author of a number of books including Neuroaffective Meditation: A Practical Guide to Lifelong Brain Development, Emotional Growth, and Healing Trauma. Marianne talks about her path to becoming a meditation teacher as a psychotherapist and how to connect with heartfulness and playfulness in teaching. She also defines trauma, explains its parallels with deep meditative states, and points toward how support might begin for practitioners with trauma. Support the show

Mar 13, 2023 • 57min
Dr. Daniel Ingram: Managing Controversy in Dharma Circles
Dr. Daniel Ingram is a retired emergency medicine doctor who is the author of two versions of the book Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha. His current projects are the Emergent Phenomenology Research Consortium and a charity called the Emergence Benefactors. Daniel discusses the way in which he became a dharma teacher, where he actually began by working with the most advanced practitioners, and he discusses a number of areas in which he has "stepped on minefields" and created controversy. Support the show


