

The Dov Baron Show
Dov Baron
The Dov Baron Show: Unmasking Hidden Truths for High-Profile Deep Thinkers
This isn’t just another leadership podcast. It’s a high-stakes exploration into the minds of those shaping the world... minus the usual talking points.
Every episode is a raw, unscripted collaboration between my guest and me, Dov Baron, as we dive into the truths no one else dares to ask about. My guests? Often unknown to the general public but absolute titans in their fields—the kind of people high-profile leaders turn to when they need an edge.
Here, generous curiosity meets bold conversation. Expect a mix of playful irreverence and deep intellectual firepower that forces you to rethink what you thought you knew.
If you’re the kind of leader who craves depth over soundbites and insight over ego-stroking, hit subscribe—because this is where real thinkers come to sharpen their edge.
This isn’t just another leadership podcast. It’s a high-stakes exploration into the minds of those shaping the world... minus the usual talking points.
Every episode is a raw, unscripted collaboration between my guest and me, Dov Baron, as we dive into the truths no one else dares to ask about. My guests? Often unknown to the general public but absolute titans in their fields—the kind of people high-profile leaders turn to when they need an edge.
Here, generous curiosity meets bold conversation. Expect a mix of playful irreverence and deep intellectual firepower that forces you to rethink what you thought you knew.
If you’re the kind of leader who craves depth over soundbites and insight over ego-stroking, hit subscribe—because this is where real thinkers come to sharpen their edge.
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Jan 12, 2022 • 32min
2/2 Tools and Tactics for Tomorrow's Leaders: Alain Hunkins
You may be someone who has, at some time or another, been led by a leader who leads like it’s 1955. For that matter, you may be a leader who finds themselves living out the bad habits inherited from previous generations of leaders and wondering how to take ownership and transform. How can we Crack The Leadership Code, to build ourselves and those we serve into Strong Leaders? Let’s find out together. Our guest is Alain Hunkins. Alain believes that he has literally cracked the code on what it takes to lead, not just in 2021, but also far beyond. Alain Hunkins is a faculty member of Duke Corporate Education. Alain’s writing has been featured in Fast Company, Forbes, Inc., Chief Executive, Chief Learning Officer, and Business Insider. He’s a leadership speaker and coach who has worked with Walmart, Pfizer, Citigroup, General Electric, State Farm Insurance, IBM, General Motors, and Microsoft. Alain is the bestselling author of, Cracking the Leadership Code: Three Secrets to Building Strong Leaders. Website: https://www.alainhunkins.com Social Media https://www.facebook.com/hunkins. https://twitter.com/AlainHunkins. https://www.linkedin.com/in/alainhunkins Part 2) Tools and Tactics for Tomorrow's Leaders Why We Must Fire Ourselves as Psychic Leaders How Great Leader Always Ask for a Recipes The 4 Needs Every Leader Must Meet Specifically Designing an Environment That Energizes Your People. The Neuro-energetic Loss of Task Switching The Power of an Epic Failure . . . Curious about how to tap into what drives meaning in your life and create meaningful transformation in the lives you touch? Take a look at DovBaron.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 7, 2022 • 25min
1/2 The Leadership Code: Alain Hunkins
You may be someone who has, at some time or another, been led by a leader who leads like it’s 1955. For that matter, you may be a leader who finds themselves living out the bad habits inherited from previous generations of leaders and wondering how to take ownership and transform. How can we Crack The Leadership Code, to build ourselves and those we serve into Strong Leaders? Let’s find out together. Our guest is Alain Hunkins. Alain believes that he has literally cracked the code on what it takes to lead, not just today, but far into the future. Alain Hunkins is a faculty member of Duke Corporate Education. Alain’s writing has been featured in Fast Company, Forbes, Inc., Chief Executive, Chief Learning Officer, and Business Insider. He’s a leadership speaker and coach who has worked with Walmart, Pfizer, Citigroup, General Electric, State Farm Insurance, IBM, General Motors, and Microsoft. Alain is the bestselling author of, Cracking the Leadership Code: Three Secrets to Building Strong Leaders. Website: https://www.alainhunkins.com Social Media https://www.facebook.com/hunkins. https://twitter.com/AlainHunkins. https://www.linkedin.com/in/alainhunkins Part 1) 3 Secret to Building and Becoming a Strong Leader Why Giving Power Away, Makes You Powerful The Seduction of Power Recognizing the Difference Between Compliance and Commitment Becoming a Facilitator and Chief Supporting Super Heroes, or Super Teams The Secret Leadership Formula of S.U.&L Why People over Numbers Gets Better Numbers . . . Curious about how to tap into what drives meaning in your life and create meaningful transformation in the lives you touch? Take a look at DovBaron.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 5, 2022 • 32min
2/2: Purpose as The Boss: Nick Jankel
How can you and I as leaders innovate while wrestling the relentless beast of change? The answer is that you must become transformational leaders who lead transformational businesses. Innovation is more than a hot subject, it's a necessity of survival, but have you considered what real innovation means to you and your team? Aside from coming up with something new, it’s a mindset and in many ways a state of emotional fortitude. Innovation means change. Change inevitably means some level of fear, chaos and potentially massive uncertainty. So, what does medical science, innovation and transformational leadership have in common when it comes to leading into an innovative future? Our guest is Nick Jankel. Nick is an influential thought leader and bestselling author whose life’s work is to understand how individuals and organizations can unlock transformations that forges the future.He has a Medical Science background from Cambridge University. Nick has worked with senior leaders from organizations like HSBC, Boots Walgreens, Unilever, Diageo, Google, Nike, Merck, Wal-Mart, and NHS. He led systemic change programs with WWF and Oxfam, worked with entrepreneurs and social innovators on 4 continents, and lectured at world-class universities including Yale, Oxford, SciencesPo, and London Business School. On top of all that, he has advised No.10 Downing Street and The White House on transformational innovation. Nick Jankel is an international keynote speaker and Bestselling Author of, Now Lead The Change. Website: www.switchonnow.com. Social Media https://medium.com/@nickjankel https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickjankel/ https://www.instagram.com/switchonnow/ https://www.facebook.com/switchonnow https://twitter.com/nickjankel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEdzCMVyPJBtqfkhwRJUUbg Part2) Purpose as The Boss Business as a Living Breathing System Thinking Beyond “Sustainable” The Next Level of Successful Capitalism Business as The Canvas of Creativity The Cost of Dead Systems in a Live Ecosystem Aliveness of being on Purpose Confronting Entrepreneurial Heart Break . . . Curious about how to tap into what drives meaning in your life and create meaningful transformation in the lives you touch? Take a look at DovBaron.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jan 2, 2022 • 34min
1/2 Now Lead The Change: Nick Jankel
How can you and I as leaders innovate while wrestling the relentless beast of change? The answer is that you must become transformational leaders who lead transformational businesses. Innovation is more than a hot subject, it's a necessity of survival, but have you considered what real innovation means to you and your team? Aside from coming up with something new, it’s a mindset and in many ways a state of emotional fortitude. Innovation means change. Change inevitably means some level of fear, chaos and potentially massive uncertainty. So, what does medical science, innovation and transformational leadership have in common when it comes to leading into an innovative future? Our guest is Nick Jankel. Nick is an influential thought leader and bestselling author whose life’s work is to understand how individuals and organizations can unlock transformations that forges the future.He has a Medical Science background from Cambridge University. Nick has worked with senior leaders from organizations like HSBC, Boots Walgreens, Unilever, Diageo, Google, Nike, Merck, Wal-Mart, and NHS. He led systemic change programs with WWF and Oxfam, worked with entrepreneurs and social innovators on 4 continents, and lectured at world-class universities including Yale, Oxford, SciencesPo, and London Business School. On top of all that, he has advised No.10 Downing Street and The White House on transformational innovation. Nick Jankel is an international keynote speaker and Bestselling Author of, Now Lead The Change. Website: www.switchonnow.com. Social Media https://medium.com/@nickjankel https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickjankel/ https://www.instagram.com/switchonnow/ https://www.facebook.com/switchonnow https://twitter.com/nickjankel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEdzCMVyPJBtqfkhwRJUUbg Part 1: The Lubricant for Change Facing What Challenges Us to Transform Business or Politicians, where will You Place Your Trust? What is The Most Effective Lubricant for Change? The Forgotten Generation of Innovation Traumatized Leaders and Traumatized Organizations Dismantling Organizational Trauma Identifying Patterns of Pain Why Top Down Isn’t Enough Connect Before You Correct Are You the Smartest or The Wisest? . . . Curious about how to tap into what drives meaning in your life and create meaningful transformation in the lives you touch? Take a look at DovBaron.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 29, 2021 • 33min
2/2: Secret Sauce of Crisis: Jeff Chatterton
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, we seem to be living in a state of perpetual crisis. From a pandemic to supply chain issues and to talent leaving the workforce in the millions. Then, on top of that, there is the cancel culture. Say the wrong thin, even as a joke, even in the past, and your career, your status, could be gone in a moment. How is your organization going to, not just cope, but come out on top? Warren Buffet said, “An idiot with a plan will beat a genius with no plan.” But it the context of crisis, is that true? After all, as Mike Tyson said, “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.” So, if Warren Buffet is right, you should you have a crisis communication plan. However, if Tyson is correct, your plan will be about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle. So, what’s the answer? Let’s find out together. Our guest is Jeff Chatterton. Jeff is the guy you want in the room when everyone else is having a panic attack. He is a bestselling author and expert in crisis communications who has worked on projects from Sydney to Stockholm and everywhere in between. He's here to peel back the curtain on the dark arts of communicating in a crisis, because it turns out, what most business leaders have been told for decades is very, very wrong. Jeff is a specialist in crisis communications, and the co-author of, Leaders Under Fire - The CEO's Survival Guide to Navigating Corporate Crisis. Website: https://checkmatepublicaffairs.com/ Book: https://checkmatepublicaffairs.com/freebook/ Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/jchatterton https://twitter.com/jchatterton https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffchatterton/ Part 2) The Secret Sauce of Crisis What a vicious reporter is really doing, and how to get them on your side! Why your Media Crisis Plan is a Waste of Time and Money There are only 3 types of crisis - Are you Preparing for the wrong one? Who did you hurt, and do you really care Media Lessons from a master. Love him or hate him, the Master of News-jacking Who’s guaranteed to go under the bus, and what you can do to make sure it’s not you! What is the Crisis Secret Sauce Feelings, nothing more than feelings. . . . Curious about how to tap into what drives meaning in your life and create meaningful transformation in the lives you touch? Take a look at DovBaron.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 26, 2021 • 35min
1/2 Jeff Chatterton: Leaders Under Fire
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, we seem to be living in a state of perpetual crisis. From a pandemic to supply chain issues and to talent leaving the workforce in the millions. Then, on top of that, there is the cancel culture. Say the wrong thin, even as a joke, even in the past, and your career, your status, could be gone in a moment. How is your organization going to, not just cope, but come out on top? Warren Buffet said, “An idiot with a plan will beat a genius with no plan.” But it the context of crisis, is that true? After all, as Mike Tyson said, “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.” So, if Warren Buffet is right, you should you have a crisis communication plan. However, if Tyson is correct, your plan will be about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle. So, what’s the answer? Let’s find out together. Our guest is Jeff Chatterton. Jeff is the guy you want in the room when everyone else is having a panic attack. He is a bestselling author and expert in crisis communications who has worked on projects from Sydney to Stockholm and everywhere in between. He's here to peel back the curtain on the dark arts of communicating in a crisis, because it turns out, what most business leaders have been told for decades is very, very wrong. Jeff is a specialist in crisis communications, and the co-author of, Leaders Under Fire - The CEO's Survival Guide to Navigating Corporate Crisis. Website: https://checkmatepublicaffairs.com/ Book: https://checkmatepublicaffairs.com/freebook/ Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/jchatterton https://twitter.com/jchatterton https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffchatterton/ Part 1) Turning “crisis” into your Super Bowl ad What does it take to turn a “crisis” into your Super Bowl ad? Crisis is not a metaphorical opportunity Confronting Cancel Culture How can an Airline Recover After Dragging a Passenger off the Plane Why People Do NOT Care What Happened! What’s the dramatic difference between Crisis Management and Media Training . . . Curious about how to tap into what drives meaning in your life and create meaningful transformation in the lives you touch? Take a look at DovBaron.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 22, 2021 • 31min
2/2 Lessons from Sandy Hook: Jen Marr
Comfort may be one of the great human paradoxes. We want it, we need it, but when we get too much of it, we can become demotivated, even lazy. 2020 and 2021 have been defined by political polarization and a global pandemic; no one has been untouched. We're all looking for some kind of comfort. Comfort may not have been something we saw a place for in the workplace. However, maybe we need to Break Open the Myths we have around Comfort by making a clear distinction between comforting and comfortable. So, here’s the question. Is there a specific way to deliver comfort to someone who is in massive distress, and do so in such a way that it's effective for that individual, perhaps in turn to the entire organization? Let’s find out together. Our guest is Jen Marr. Jen is the founder and CEO of Inspiring Comfort. She comes from a highly successful corporate background and found herself facilitating care and recovery efforts at Sandy Hook after the mass shooting. In an age of increasing social disconnection, she is disrupting the education and mental health spaces as she trains organizations, schools, and communities on how to activate the skill of comfort and cultivate a caring, connected culture. Jen has delivered her Comfort Skills Programming to such notable organizations such as The Mental Health Association of New York State, The New York Office of Mental Health, the American Association of Suicide Prevention, Georgetown University, and Northeastern University. Website: https://www.inspiringcomfort.com/ Book: https://tinyurl.com/PawsForComfort. Social Media https://www.facebook.com/inspiringcomfort/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenmarr/ Part 2) Lessons from Sandy Hook The Power of The Pause Working with The White House Culture Why Caring For Others is Self-Care The Dangers of Cultural Bootstrapping The Benefit of a Connected, Caring Culture The Deflectors Who Care Are You Helping Today and After? Alarming Statistics about Cultural Anxiety . . . . Curious about how to tap into what drives meaning in your life and create meaningful transformation in the lives you touch? Take a look at DovBaron.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 19, 2021 • 28min
1/2 Breaking the Comfort Myth: Jen Marr
Comfort may be one of the great human paradoxes. We want it, we need it, but when we get too much of it, we can become demotivated, even lazy. 2020 and 2021 have been defined by political polarization and a global pandemic; no one has been untouched. We're all looking for some kind of comfort. Comfort may not have been something we saw a place for in the workplace. However, maybe we need to Break Open the Myths we have around Comfort by making a clear distinction between comforting and comfortable. So, here’s the question. Is there a specific way to deliver comfort to someone who is in massive distress, and do so in such a way that it's effective for that individual, perhaps in turn to the entire organization? Let’s find out together. Our guest is Jen Marr. Jen is the founder and CEO of Inspiring Comfort. She comes from a highly successful corporate background and found herself facilitating care and recovery efforts at Sandy Hook after the mass shooting. In an age of increasing social disconnection, she is disrupting the education and mental health spaces as she trains organizations, schools, and communities on how to activate the skill of comfort and cultivate a caring, connected culture. Jen has delivered her Comfort Skills Programming to such notable organizations such as The Mental Health Association of New York State, The New York Office of Mental Health, the American Association of Suicide Prevention, Georgetown University, and Northeastern University. Website: https://www.inspiringcomfort.com/. Book: https://tinyurl.com/PawsForComfort Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/inspiringcomfort/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenmarr/ Part 1) Strength in Comfort Progress and The Loss of Tribes Where Do They Go After Work? The Stress of 67 Thousand Teddy Bears Why Kindness Isn't Enough Creating a Culture of Caring and Connection Seeing and Being Seen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 15, 2021 • 30min
2/2 Simplifying Complexity, The CEO Super Power: Adam Byant
There is practical training and a test to become a driver, yet often, there is no real training or test to become a good CEO. In fact, the research shows that most people in management don’t get any real leadership training until they have on average 10 years in management. The result is fumbling or downright failed leadership. Now, you may have been a leader for a long time, but if there was a CEO Test, do you honestly believe you would pass? Let’s find out together. Our guest is Adam Bryant. Adam has interviewed more than 700 CEOs about the key leadership lessons they've learned, first as a journalist at The New York Times, and now in his interview series on LinkedIn as part of his consulting work with ExCo Group, an executive mentoring and leadership development firm. Adam's written his third book, "The CEO Test: Master the Challenges that Make or Break All Leaders," with Kevin Sharer, the former CEO of Amgen. The book is published by Harvard Business Review Press. Website https://adambryantbooks.com Social Media https://twitter.com/adambbryant https://www.linkedin.com/in/adambryantleadership Curious about how to tap into what drives meaning in your life and create meaningful transformation in the lives you touch? Take a look at DovBaron.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Dec 12, 2021 • 30min
1/2 Adam Bryant: Could You Pass The CEO Test?
There is practical training and a test to become a driver, yet often, there is no real training or test to become a good CEO. In fact, the research shows that most people in management don’t get any real leadership training until they have on average 10 years in management. The result is fumbling or downright failed leadership. Now, you may have been a leader for a long time, but if there was a CEO Test, do you honestly believe you would pass? Let’s find out together. Our guest is Adam Bryant. Adam has interviewed more than 700 CEOs about the key leadership lessons they've learned, first as a journalist at The New York Times, and now in his interview series on LinkedIn as part of his consulting work with ExCo Group, an executive mentoring and leadership development firm. Adam's written his third book, "The CEO Test: Master the Challenges that Make or Break All Leaders," with Kevin Sharer, the former CEO of Amgen. The book is published by Harvard Business Review Press. Website https://adambryantbooks.com Social Media https://twitter.com/adambbryant https://www.linkedin.com/in/adambryantleadership Part 1) The Challenges that Make or Break All Leaders The Clarity of Strategy The Dangers of Presumptive Knowledge Would You Pass The CEO Test? 4 Step Strategy: What, Levers, Challenges and The Scoreboard Leadership is...Everything The Importance of Specificity Be & Do Use Your Time Machine The Paradoxes of Leadership Curious about how to tap into what drives meaning in your life and create meaningful transformation in the lives you touch? Take a look at DovBaron.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices