

The Dov Baron Show
Dov Baron
The Dov Baron Show: Unmasking Hidden Truths for High-Profile Deep Thinkers
This isn’t just another leadership podcast. It’s a high-stakes exploration into the minds of those shaping the world... minus the usual talking points.
Every episode is a raw, unscripted collaboration between my guest and me, Dov Baron, as we dive into the truths no one else dares to ask about. My guests? Often unknown to the general public but absolute titans in their fields—the kind of people high-profile leaders turn to when they need an edge.
Here, generous curiosity meets bold conversation. Expect a mix of playful irreverence and deep intellectual firepower that forces you to rethink what you thought you knew.
If you’re the kind of leader who craves depth over soundbites and insight over ego-stroking, hit subscribe—because this is where real thinkers come to sharpen their edge.
This isn’t just another leadership podcast. It’s a high-stakes exploration into the minds of those shaping the world... minus the usual talking points.
Every episode is a raw, unscripted collaboration between my guest and me, Dov Baron, as we dive into the truths no one else dares to ask about. My guests? Often unknown to the general public but absolute titans in their fields—the kind of people high-profile leaders turn to when they need an edge.
Here, generous curiosity meets bold conversation. Expect a mix of playful irreverence and deep intellectual firepower that forces you to rethink what you thought you knew.
If you’re the kind of leader who craves depth over soundbites and insight over ego-stroking, hit subscribe—because this is where real thinkers come to sharpen their edge.
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Aug 26, 2022 • 45min
Part 1 of 2 "Staring Down The Wolf" Commander Mark Divine
Forging Elite Teams. 7 Leadership Commitment. . Mark Divine is a Retired Navy SEAL commander, New York Times bestselling author, and successful serial entrepreneur. He's an expert in elite performance, mental toughness, and leadership development for teams. His renowned SEALFIT and Unbeatable Mind training programs have transformed tens of thousands from all walks of life. Mark’s own leadership skills were initially honed in the SEALs, where he was the Honor Man (#1 graduate) of his BUDS. He later built several successful businesses, two of which have scaled into 8 figures. Mark teaches this unique warrior-leader philosophy to executives, corporate leaders, elite sports teams, and entrepreneurs with a mission to lead 100 million people to the path of integrated five-mountain development by 2045. Mark also is the host of the #1-ranked iTunes Health podcast, "Unbeatable Mind." Find out more: http://MarkDivine.com & http://SealFit.com . . . . . Curious to discover how tapping into the Anatomy of Meaning can #actualize your #business, #culture, #Leadership and #tribe DovBaron.com "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 24, 2022 • 35min
2/2 Love21, What is Neuro-Diversity?: Jeff Rotmeyer
Whether it's Downs Syndrome, the Autistic, or the homeless individuals of our society, it's easy to see these challenges as other people's problems. However, the fact is, we all live in a connected society. All of these things and more are no more than a few degrees of separation from us all. But what can we do? . The last time a global survey was attempted – by the United Nations in 2005 – an estimated 100 million people were homeless worldwide. Homelessness is at an epidemic level. As many as 1.6 billion people lacked adequate housing (Habitat, 2015). If you are not in the situation of being homeless or even close to it, it can seem like an unsolvable problem that has very little to do with those of us who are business leaders. But is it? . Our guest for the next two episodes is Jeff Rotmeyer. Jeff is originally from my adopted hometown of Vancouver, Canada. That being said, we don't know each other from Vancouver. Jeff has spent his last 16 years in Hong Kong, where he founded two different charities on the same day. H is the Founder and CEO of ImpactHK, a charity transforming the lives of those experiencing homelessness in Hong Kong. ImpactHK started with just a few individuals aiming to show kindness to those in need and has now grown into a humanitarian movement involving over ten thousand volunteers that have helped over 400 individuals to get off the streets. . Jeff is also the Founder and CEO of Love 21 Foundation, a charity supporting the Down Syndrome and autistic community with sports and nutrition programs. Love 21 supports over 260 families with a holistic program that strives to give the neuro-diverse community the best opportunity to reach their full potential. Website https://impacthk.org/about/our-story https://love21foundation.com Social Media https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-rotmeyer-55258748 https://www.instagram.com/impacthkcharity https://www.instagram.com/theguestroomhk Part 2) Love21 What is Neuro-diversity Sports as a Bond Why the Downs Syndrome Community is Dying so Young Confronting The "Can't" Myths Lessons in The Power of Vulnerability Competitive Social Enterprize No Thank You to Victim-Based Charity . Curious to discover how tapping into the Anatomy of Meaning can #actualize your #business, #culture, #Leadership and #tribe DovBaron.com "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 21, 2022 • 37min
1/2 Jeff Rotmeyer: Win Focused Charities
Whether it's Downs Syndrome, the Autistic, or the homeless individuals of our society, it's easy to see these challenges as other people's problems. However, the fact is, we all live in a connected society. All of these things and more are no more than a few degrees of separation from us all. But what can we do? . The last time a global survey was attempted – by the United Nations in 2005 – an estimated 100 million people were homeless worldwide. Homelessness is at an epidemic level. As many as 1.6 billion people lacked adequate housing (Habitat, 2015). If you are not in the situation of being homeless or even close to it, it can seem like an unsolvable problem that has very little to do with those of us who are business leaders. But is it? . Our guest for the next two episodes is Jeff Rotmeyer. Jeff is originally from my adopted hometown of Vancouver, Canada. That being said, we don't know each other from Vancouver. Jeff has spent his last 16 years in Hong Kong, where he founded two different charities on the same day. H is the Founder and CEO of ImpactHK, a charity transforming the lives of those experiencing homelessness in Hong Kong. ImpactHK started with just a few individuals aiming to show kindness to those in need and has now grown into a humanitarian movement involving over ten thousand volunteers that have helped over 400 individuals to get off the streets. . Jeff is also the Founder and CEO of Love 21 Foundation, a charity supporting the Down Syndrome and autistic community with sports and nutrition programs. Love 21 supports over 260 families with a holistic program that strives to give the neuro-diverse community the best opportunity to reach their full potential. Website https://impacthk.org/about/our-story https://love21foundation.com Social Media https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-rotmeyer-55258748 https://www.instagram.com/impacthkcharity https://www.instagram.com/theguestroomhk Part 1) ImpactHK It all starts with kindness Removing Obligation from Charity Shocking Details on Homelessness in Hong Kong The Dangers of Poverty Tourism Living in a Coffin for $300 a month Why Nothing Happens Without Goals & Hope We Need Friends and Community, not Charity . Curious to discover how tapping into the Anatomy of Meaning can #actualize your #business, #culture, #Leadership and #tribe DovBaron.com "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 17, 2022 • 42min
2/2 VR Tricking The Mind Into Healing. Dr Skip Rizzo
The Metaverse coming to everything near you...now! What if AI and VR are not only better but preferred? Self-driving cars are already here, and it won't be long before fully autonomous vehicles take over all driving jobs. Taxi, Uber, and Truck drivers will soon be a thing of the past. Perhaps you might be thinking that your job is safe. But is it? Some professions might seem untouchable, but what if that's not true? For instance, what if AI and VR doctors are not only better but preferred? . Artificial Intelligence (AI) and virtual reality/the Metaverse is no longer the stuff of science fiction; they are already part of your life even if you don't recognize them. When you open your phone with face ID, that's AI. Valuable tools like Siri and Alexa are AI. Smart thermostats, Fridges, and lights are all uses of AI. . But there's another level of depth known as the Metaverse. In the Metaverse, using VR, you and I can experience something "artificial" with all of our senses, as if it were a genuine real-world experience. But how does this impact leadership? . Our guest is Dr. Skip Rizzo for the next two episodes. Dr. Rizzo is an internationally recognized thought leader in his field and was hailed by Polygon as one of the top 25 greatest innovators in virtual reality. Dr. Rizzo is a clinical psychologist and Director of Medical Virtual Reality at the University of Southern California Institute for Creative Technologies. He is also a Research Professor with the USC Dept. of Psychiatry and at the USC Davis School of Gerontology. . The volume and innovation of his work have also earned him many awards. His commitment is to revolutionize healthcare with the development of innovative VR products that have a positive impact on the field. Over the last 25 years, Skip has conducted research for designing, developing, and evaluating Virtual Reality systems. This work has focused on PTSD, TBI, Autism, ADHD, Alzheimer's disease, stroke, and other clinical conditions. . The common thread driving his work with digital technologies involves studying how interactive and immersive Virtual Reality simulations can be usefully applied to address human healthcare—taking us beyond what is possible with traditional 20th Century tools and methods. Dr. Skip Rizzo has been given the moniker of "The Godfather of Virtual Reality". Website ICT MedVR: http://medvr.ict.usc.edu YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/AlbertSkipRizzo New Book on Clinical VR: Virtual Reality for Psychological and Neurocognitive Interventions. https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9781493994809 Social Media https://www.facebook.com/skip.rizzo https://twitter.com/skiprizzovr https://www.linkedin.com/in/skiprizzovr https://www.instagram.com/skip_rizzo Part 2) VR Tricking The Mind Into Healing Credible Human Connections with Virtual Beings How To Trick The Mind Into Healing AI Therapists and Human Connection "Ready Player 1" Prophecy? The Double-Edged Sword of the Metaverse Substance and Virtual Addiction Why We Back off When We're about to Win The Five Levels of Creating Personal Reality The Miracle of Tetris and Treating Brain Injuries. . . Curious to discover how tapping into the Anatomy of Meaning can #actualize your #business, #culture, #Leadership and #tribe DovBaron.com "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 14, 2022 • 39min
1/2 Dr. Skip Rizzo: Neuro-Leadership in the Metaverse
The Metaverse coming to everything near you...now! What if AI and VR are not only better but preferred? Self-driving cars are already here, and it won't be long before fully autonomous vehicles take over all driving jobs. Taxi, Uber, and Truck drivers will soon be a thing of the past. Perhaps you might be thinking that your job is safe. But is it? Some professions might seem untouchable, but what if that's not true? For instance, what if AI and VR doctors are not only better but preferred? . Artificial Intelligence (AI) and virtual reality/the Metaverse is no longer the stuff of science fiction; they are already part of your life even if you don't recognize them. When you open your phone with face ID, that's AI. Valuable tools like Siri and Alexa are AI. Smart thermostats, Fridges, and lights are all uses of AI. . But there's another level of depth known as the Metaverse. In the Metaverse, using VR, you and I can experience something "artificial" with all of our senses, as if it were a genuine real-world experience. But how does this impact leadership? . Our guest is Dr. Skip Rizzo for the next two episodes. Dr. Rizzo is an internationally recognized thought leader in his field and was hailed by Polygon as one of the top 25 greatest innovators in virtual reality. Dr. Rizzo is a clinical psychologist and Director of Medical Virtual Reality at the University of Southern California Institute for Creative Technologies. He is also a Research Professor with the USC Dept. of Psychiatry and at the USC Davis School of Gerontology. . The volume and innovation of his work have also earned him many awards. His commitment is to revolutionize healthcare with the development of innovative VR products that have a positive impact on the field. Over the last 25 years, Skip has conducted research for designing, developing, and evaluating Virtual Reality systems. This work has focused on PTSD, TBI, Autism, ADHD, Alzheimer's disease, stroke, and other clinical conditions. . The common thread driving his work with digital technologies involves studying how interactive and immersive Virtual Reality simulations can be usefully applied to address human healthcare—taking us beyond what is possible with traditional 20th Century tools and methods. Dr. Skip Rizzo has been given the moniker of "The Godfather of Virtual Reality". Website ICT MedVR: http://medvr.ict.usc.edu YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/AlbertSkipRizzo New Book on Clinical VR: Virtual Reality for Psychological and Neurocognitive Interventions. https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9781493994809 Social Media https://www.facebook.com/skip.rizzo https://twitter.com/skiprizzovr https://www.linkedin.com/in/skiprizzovr https://www.instagram.com/skip_rizzo Part 1) The Emotions of Cognitive Leadership Virtual Reality (VR) Leadership Cognitive Vs. Limbic, which wins? The Success and Failure of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy The Need to Activate Emotions to Heal VR prescription for PTSD VR for Overcoming Fear of Public Speaking or Fear of Heights Why Avoidance Generates Avoidance . . Curious to discover how tapping into the Anatomy of Meaning can #actualize your #business, #culture, #Leadership and #tribe DovBaron.com "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 10, 2022 • 34min
Legend! Part 2 of 2 Giving Away $100 Million and Become Wealthier: Dame Stephanie Shirley
Part 2 of 2 What is true resilience? Imagine being stripped away from your birth family due to the circumstances of war? Imagine being shipped off to a country with a completely different language and having to live with strangers. Okay, that's tough enough. Now imagine entering into what at the time is a fledgling industry that wants nothing to do with you because it's a men's club and you are a woman. As if all that's not enough, let’s now imagine taking all that on the chin, and you go on to become a Technology Icon who started a software business employing only women in the 1960s. Stay tuned because, over the next two episodes, we sit down with a technology Icon and a true champion of women in technology and leadership since the 1960s, Dame Stephanie Shirley. In 1962 Dame Stephanie founded an all-woman software company that pioneered remote working and redefined the expectations and opportunities for working women at that time. Her company, Freelance Programmers, grew to 8,500 employees, was ultimately valued at almost $3 billion, and made 70 of her staff into millionaires. Since 'retiring,' her focus has been on philanthropy, especially on autism and IT. Over the last 30 years, Dame Stephanie has given away almost $100 million to good causes, primarily in the fields of autism and IT. Dame Shirley received her BSc in 1956 and was appointed Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) in the 1980 Birthday Honours[15] for services to industry; Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire (DBE) in the 2000 New Year Honours for services to information technology.;[16] and Member of the Order of the Companions of Honour (CH) in the 2017 Birthday Honours for services to the IT industry and philanthropy.[17] The CH refers to her Companion of Honour – only 65 people in the world have one Dame Stephanie is a workplace revolutionary, and successful IT entrepreneur turned ardent venture philanthropist. She is the first person to drop off the Time's Rich List, having given away too much of her money, an achievement which gives her great pleasure! Website www.steveshirley.com Social Media https://www.facebook.com/DameStephanie https://twitter.com/DameStephanie_ https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynnhartuk https://www.instagram.com/damestephanie Part 2) Giving Away $100 Million and Becoming Wealthier Recruiting on Character and Values Recognizing the New Face of Leadership is Comedic From the Echoes of a Wailing "goodbye" to The Trauma of a Silent "Hello." Building a Company that would Create the Black Box for Concord Dropping off the "Time's Riches" list by giving away over $100 million! When a Workaholic Entrepreneur is Confronted with a Severely Autistic Child Looking the Black Dog of Depression in The Eye and Asking for Help Why the Most Rewarding Work has Nothing To do with Profit. Fighting for Those who are Disregarded. . . Curious to discover how tapping into the Anatomy of Meaning can #actualize your #business, #culture, #Leadership and #tribe DovBaron.com "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug 7, 2022 • 27min
Legend! Part1 of 2 Dame Stephanie Shirley CH: From Refugee to IT Icon
What is true resilience? Imagine being stripped away from your birth family due to the circumstances of war? Imagine being shipped off to a country with a completely different language and having to live with strangers. Okay, that's tough enough. Now imagine entering into what at the time is a fledgling industry that wants nothing to do with you because it's a men's club and you are a woman. As if all that's not enough, let’s now imagine taking all that on the chin, and you go on to become a Technology Icon who started a software business employing only women in the 1960s. Stay tuned because, over the next two episodes, we sit down with a technology Icon and a true champion of women in technology and leadership since the 1960s, Dame Stephanie Shirley. In 1962 Dame Stephanie founded an all-woman software company that pioneered remote working and redefined the expectations and opportunities for working women at that time. Her company, Freelance Programmers, grew to 8,500 employees, was ultimately valued at almost $3 billion, and made 70 of her staff into millionaires. Since 'retiring,' her focus has been on philanthropy, especially on autism and IT. Over the last 30 years, Dame Stephanie has given away almost $100 million to good causes, primarily in the fields of autism and IT. Dame Shirley received her BSc in 1956 and was appointed Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) in the 1980 Birthday Honours[15] for services to industry; Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire (DBE) in the 2000 New Year Honours for services to information technology.;[16] and Member of the Order of the Companions of Honour (CH) in the 2017 Birthday Honours for services to the IT industry and philanthropy.[17] The CH refers to her Companion of Honour – only 65 people in the world have one Dame Stephanie is a workplace revolutionary, and successful IT entrepreneur turned ardent venture philanthropist. She is the first person to drop off the Time's Rich List, having given away too much of her money, an achievement which gives her great pleasure! Website www.steveshirley.com Social Media https://www.facebook.com/DameStephanie https://twitter.com/DameStephanie_ https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynnhartuk https://www.instagram.com/damestephanie Part 1) The Journey, Refugee to Champion for Women Where does Resilience Come From? "Think for Yourself-Not About Yourself" How Trusting Builds Trust Memoirs of a 5 Years Old Refugee Escaping the Nazi's The Compassion of Strangers with a Horrible Message Confronting Today's Lack of Compassion Going from Refugee to Dame Becoming one of only 65 (globally) named as "Companion of Honour" The Entrepreneurial Journey Fighting for Women Pioneering a Remote Workforce in the 1960s . . Curious to discover how tapping into the Anatomy of Meaning can #actualize your #business, #culture, #Leadership and #tribe DovBaron.com "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jul 27, 2022 • 1h 2min
1of1 Jack Canfield: Success Principles in Action
What's Your E+R=O? Jack Canfield . . Our guest on this episode is Jack Canfield. He is the world-famous co-author of the New York Times and worldwide smash hit book: Chicken Soup for the Soul book series which currently has 300 titles in the series and more than 500 million copies in print in 47 languages. Jack Canfield is also the founder and President of the Canfield Training Group, which trains entrepreneurs, corporate leaders, coaches, trainers, authors, health practitioners, sales professionals, and motivated individuals in how to accelerate the achievement of their personal, professional and financial goals. Jack is a National Speakers Association’s Speakers Hall of Famer. He has appeared on many of the biggest shows including Oprah, Oprah’s Super Soul Sunday, Montel, Larry King Live, and The Today Show. Jack’s clients included FedEx, GE, Johnson & Johnson, KFC, Merrill Lynch, Microsoft, SONY Pictures, and Virgin Records. His best-known success resources are the New York Times best-selling book: The Success Principles: How to Get from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be, and his latest book The Success Principles Workbook.More on Jack Canfield: http://JackCanfield.com/transformation . . . . . Curious to discover how tapping into the Anatomy of Meaning can #actualize your #business, #culture, #Leadership and #tribe To find out how you can hire Dov Baron DovBaron.com because "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" Get bonus content on Patreon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 24, 2022 • 1h 9min
1/1 John Hope Bryant: Five Rules for Your Economic Liberation
John Hope Bryant: The true power in this world comes from economic independence. We're all striving for something better. Rebuilding the Path to the Middle Class. However, it's pretty clear that the majority of people did not your the memo on money and free enterprise. But do we have to step on others to get there or can true power in this world come from creating economic independence for anyone who wants it and is willing to learn how to get it? Stay tuned because you are about to find out. Our guest on this extended episode is John Hope Bryant. He's been an advisor to 3 presidents and was named 2016 “Innovator of the Year” by American Banker magazine. John Hope Bryant is an American entrepreneur, author, philanthropist, and prominent thought leader on financial inclusion and empowering the underserved. He is illuminating the path toward liberation that is hiding in plain sight for the struggling middle class and the invisible class. The true power in this world comes from economic independence. His message is simple: the supermajority of people around the world who live in poverty haven't gotten "the memo" on money and free enterprise--until now. John is the author of bestsellers, “How the Poor Can Save Capitalism: Rebuilding the Path to the Middle Class”, and “LOVE LEADERSHIP: The New Way to Lead in a Fear-Based World. His book, “The Memo: Five Rules for Your Economic Liberation,” was released in September 2017, debuting as the #1 new release in budgeting and money management on Amazon. To find out more about John Hope Bryant https://johnhopebryant.com . . Curious to discover how tapping into the Anatomy of Meaning can #actualize your #business, #culture, #Leadership and #tribe DovBaron.com "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Jul 20, 2022 • 55min
2/2 The Gagging of America: Award Winning Journalist Ellis Cose:
“The Short Life and Curious Death of Free Speech in America” Ellis Cose . . . . . . . Our guest on the next two episodes is: Ellis Cose. He is a Chicago native, who holds a master's degree in science, technology and public policy from George Washington University. Among his list of outstanding accolades he has been a contributor and press critic for Time magazine, Chief Executive Officer of the Institute for Journalism Education, chief writer on management and workplace issues for USA Today and a member of the editorial board of the Detroit Free Press. Ellis Cose has been recognized for writing ground-breaking books on subjects as diverse as “Rage among the Black middle-class”, the evolution of post-conflict societies, and, now, the role of free speech in a democratic society. As well as being a highly esteemed journalist he is the writer of the book named as one of Newsweek’s "25 Must-Read Fall Fiction and Nonfiction Books to Escape the Chaos of 2020" Entitled: “The Short Life and Curious Death of Free Speech in America” More on Ellis Cose. http://EllisCose.com . . Curious to discover how tapping into the Anatomy of Meaning can #actualize your #business, #culture, #Leadership and #tribe To find out how you can hire Dov Baron DovBaron.com because "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices