

Unlabeled Leadership
Gary DePaul
Unlabeled Leadership is a volunteer-led service that shares stories about leadership. Rather than using labels that mystify and obscure the meaning of leadership, Gary DePaul and guests share personal leadership stories. Listeners are from 90 countries and 1,030 cities (or territories). 32 podcast platforms broadcast Unlabeled Leadership episodes.
About Gary A. DePaul, PhD: https://www.garyadepaul.com
About Gary A. DePaul, PhD: https://www.garyadepaul.com
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Sep 14, 2021 • 18min
091: Barry O’Reilly Reframes Entrepreneurialism and Negative Results
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 91, Barry O’Reilly talks about something a cousin said that affected how he thought about his businesses. He then shares how he reframed his writing process, and he advises us on how we should build our leadership style.
Prologue
When you connect business model innovation, product development, organizational design, and culture transformation, what do you find? Answer: Barry O’Reilly. Barry is a business advisor, entrepreneur, author, writer for The Economist, and on the faculty at Singularity University.
01:27 Part 1: The Entrepreneurial Myth
After quitting a job and launching his first business, Barry explains that the business didn’t work out. A cousin said something that explained how entrepreneurial businesses work.
19:48 Part 2: Reframing the Challenge
Barry shares how he struggled to write a book using a traditional approach: sitting in front of a keyboard and typing. What resulted in best sellers, Barry used unique techniques to create his books.
15:00 Part 3: Building Your Leadership Style
Barry advises us on building our own leadership style (think of style as a set of related behaviors, so leadership style is a set of behaviors that you use to practice leadership).
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How You Can Support the Show
Unlabeled Leadership is a free service for people to learn about leadership. If you want to support the show, you can make a $0.99 donation. Your support reduces production expenses. https://anchor.fm/unlabeled-leadership/support
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Episode links
Barry’s LinkedIn Profile, website, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, newsletters
Unlearn Podcast
Companies: ExecCamp, Nobody Studios
Barry's books:
Lean Enterprise
Unlearn
Stewart Butterfield, CEO of Slack Technologies
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
Background Music
You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.
00:00 Theme music: Uplift Corporate Inspire by OlexandrIgnatov
01:09 Hopeful Ambient Background by pinkzebra
19:30 Happy and Cheerful Acoustic by pinkzebra
14:42 Acoustic Colors by pinkzebra
17:03 Fun and Flirty by BrownHouseMedia
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Sep 9, 2021 • 21min
090: Carrie Missele on Communication and Curiosity
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 90, Carrie Missele talks about communication, how a direct report changed her perspective about a book club, and advises us on how we can begin improving how we lead.
Prologue
Carrie is the Director of Learning and Development at Inspirant Group. In her role, she takes the time to observe, ask questions, and listen to what people at all levels of the organization have to say. Carrie is inherently curious and strives to truly understand other perspectives. She has a results-focused style, is passionate about creating compelling and fun learning solutions, and is always focused on the learner. Carrie challenges outdated thinking about training to help her clients achieve their desired learning and performance results more effectively.
01:19 Part 1: Strengthening Communications
In this story, Carrie shares something an instructor said about communication. Learning how to communicate effectively is crucial in any organization. We should strive to improve how we communicate continuously.
08:27 Part 2: Rethinking the Book Club
Carrie explains how a conversation with a sales representative who reported to her changed her perception about a book club.
16:35 Part 3: Curiosity
Carrie advises us about how we can improve our leadership. Carrie offers a practical approach that we can begin doing immediately.
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How You Can Support the Show
Unlabeled Leadership is a free service for people to learn about leadership. If you want to support the show, you can make a $0.99 donation. Your support reduces production expenses. https://anchor.fm/unlabeled-leadership/support
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Episode links
Carrie’s LinkedIn Profile,
company website, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube
Avoid the 12-Year Gap Trap
We Wait Too Long to Train Our Leaders
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
Background Music
You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.
00:00 Theme music: Uplift Corporate Inspire by OlexandrIgnatov
01:00 Uplifting Acoustic Summer by pinkzebra
08:09 Joyful Day by jhunger
16:17 Uplifting Romantic by alexbird
20:24 Fun and Flirty by BrownHouseMedia
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Sep 7, 2021 • 26min
089: Terry Knickerbocker Helps People Find Their Voice
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 89, Terry Knickerbocker describes how he handled teaching actors during the pandemic and describes how he could find success virtually. He then shares a story about how someone helped him move forward, even after difficult events. Finally, Terry provides practical advice for helping others and ourselves.
Prologue
Terry is not a corporate professional, and he’s not a leadership expert. He does know and practice contemporary leadership, though. Terry is the founder and studio director of the Terry Knickerbocker Studio. He has taught and coached well-respected actors such as Sacha Baron Cohen, Sam Rockwell, Michelle Williams, Emmy Rossum, Josh Charles, and Abbie Cornish (to name a few). Terry also continues to work on projects with profound professionals such as Daniel Craig, Michelle Williams, Sam Rockwell, and Zac Efron (again, to name only a few). I encourage you to visit his website, even if you do not act!
01:54 Part 1: Committed to Excellence
The pandemic has affected everyone, especially those who teach in person. Terry shares an amazing story about how he adapted to virtual teaching.
15:49 Part 2: Foundation of your Genius
Terry talks about resilience and how someone helped Terry continue to move forward, even after difficult events.
21:30 Part 3: Making Space for People to Find Their Voice
Terry advises us with practical ways for helping others and ourselves. He talks some about how to handle difficult conversations.
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How You Can Support the Show
Unlabeled Leadership is a free service for people to learn about leadership. If you want to support the show, you can make a $0.99 donation. Your support reduces production expenses. https://anchor.fm/unlabeled-leadership/support
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Episode links
Terry’s LinkedIn Profile, website, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, Facebook
Susan Scott’s book, Fierce Conversations
Marshall B. Rosenberg’s book, Nonviolent Communication
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
Background Music
You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.
00:00 Theme music: Uplift Corporate Inspire by OlexandrIgnatov
01:46 Epic Dramatic Inspiring Piano by DmytroIgnatov
15:30 African Delight by simonleng
21:12 The Fast Jazz by TexasBrother
25:00 Fun and Flirty by BrownHouseMedia
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Sep 3, 2021 • 20min
088: Richard Lowe Practices with Competence
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 88, Richard Lowe explains how a business owner taught him a valuable lesson, profoundly shaping his career. He then describes a devastating computer crash and how he triggered a massive collaboration effort. Finally, Richard advises us on how we can lead and build high-performing teams.
Prologue
Richard Lowe has written and published 63 books on various subjects (including 2 Kindle bestsellers) and ghostwritten 43 books. His passion is to help businesses and individuals write books that showcase their expertise, build credibility, and tell their stories. Before his writing career, he was the Director of Computer Operations for Trader Joe’s Company, and before that, the VP of Consulting for two computer firms. He has two podcast series as well.
01:24 Part 1: Asking Questions to Clarify
In this story, Richard describes one of his first jobs in which he learns a crucial lesson that has shaped how Richard has approached his career. He illustrates how he applied what he learned by talking about his job at Trader Joe’s.
08:09 Part 2: The Multi-Million Dollar Crash
Richard describes a devastating computer crash and how employees across the organization pulled together to resolve the problem. It took Richard’s leadership to trigger the massive collaboration.
13:29 Part 3: Building A Team
Richard advises us on how we should lead from a manager’s role to build a high-performing team. He later describes what a team member can do to avoid unrealistic expectations.
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How You Can Support the Show
Unlabeled Leadership is a free service for people to learn about leadership. If you want to support the show, you can make a $0.99 donation. Your support reduces production expenses. https://anchor.fm/unlabeled-leadership/support
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Episode links
Richard’s LinkedIn Profile, website, Amazon Author Page
Fiction Master Class
Podcasts:
Conversations with Influencers
Author Talk with Richard Lowe
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
Background Music
You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.
00:00 Theme music: Uplift Corporate Inspire by OlexandrIgnatov
01:06 Bossa Nova by sonicscope
07:59 Minimal Tech by pinkzebra
13:11 Jazz by Mikebiz
19:39 Fun and Flirty by BrownHouseMedia
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Aug 31, 2021 • 20min
087: Ed Gash on Gratitude for Feedback
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 87, Ed Gash explains a phrase he learned and why the phrase is meaningful for how he leads. He then talks about feedback, how being nice and kind differ, and how cult and culture differ. Finally, Ed advises us on how we can treat ourselves better.
Prologue
Ed is a certified coach and has facilitated multiple workshops and sessions about leadership. He is the Chief Pathlighter and Guardian with EMG- Mourning Path, LLC. Named after his son, EMG supports students, grades 6-12 and first-year college students, in restoring their sense of self. In addition to coaching and training, Ed is also a voiceover artist.
01:37 Part 1: Letting Go of Old Ways
During a men’s group that occurred about 25 years ago, Ed explains a phrase that the director used. Ed explains what the phrase is and why it is meaningful for his perspective of leadership.
06:41 Part 2: Feedback When You Care
Ed shares a couple of stories about feedback and makes a distinction between being nice and being kind. Also, Ed explains how cult and culture differ. Later, Ed talks about a “poison pen letter” from a group of corporate employees who attended one of his leadership courses.
16:10 Part 3: Listen with Your Eyes
In corporate America, there’s a strong movement of valuing employees and enabling them to become more effective contributors. Ed advises us how we can put a similar focus on how we treat ourselves. He also shares an insightful story about his son.
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How You Can Support the Show
Unlabeled Leadership is a free service for people to learn about leadership. If you want to support the show, you can make a $0.99 donation. Your support reduces production expenses. https://anchor.fm/unlabeled-leadership/support
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Episode links
Ed’s LinkedIn Profile
Ed’s books
Culture Coaching
Beyond the Hashmarks
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
Background Music
You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.
00:00 Theme music: Uplift Corporate Inspire by OlexandrIgnatov
01:22 Enjoy the Experience by BrownHouseMedia
06:23 Happy Story by Lubarsky
15:53 Warm Dream by V-Audio
19:03 Fun and Flirtyby BrownHouseMedia
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Aug 26, 2021 • 27min
086: Alex D. Tremble Gets Comfortable with Being Uncomfortable
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 84, Alex Tremble describes what a mentor told him that affected how he networks and builds relationships. He then explains the challenge of being a chief of staff in the government and how someone put his role into perspective. Next, Alex advises us in a way that aligns with the episode’s title.
Prologue
My first video experience with Alex was seeing and hearing him talk about three tips on reaching your professional goals (and recovering from a bug that chased him).
In addition to hosting The Alex Tremble Show, writing books, frequently posting videos on YouTube and Instagram, speaking to large groups, and coaching clients, Alex is the Chief Culture Officer at the American Conservation Experience, a nonprofit that provide service opportunities for youths, young adults, and emerging professionals.
01:43 Part 1: Knowledge, Relationships, and Standing out
Alex explains something a mentor told him that has affected his outlook on life and has strengthened how he builds relationships.
10:20 Part 2: Fixing Stuff
In this story, Alex talks about the challenge of being a chief of staff working in the U.S. government. He receives some help that puts his role into perspective and aligns the behaviors to leadership.
21:59 Part 3: Three Words of Advice
Alex shares his advice that starts with three words. His advice links to the title of the episode.
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How You Can Support the Show
Unlabeled Leadership is a free service for people to learn about leadership. If you want to support the show, you can make a $0.99 donation. Your support reduces production expenses. https://anchor.fm/unlabeled-leadership/support
No transcript available (future enhancement)
Episode links
Alex’s LinkedIn Profile, website, bio, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram
The Alex Tremble Show
Books
Reaching Senior Leadership
The GPS Guide to Success
Other books
Adam M. Grant, Give and Take: A Revolutionary Approach to Success
David Epstein, Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World
Gary DePaul’s website
Background Music
You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.
00:00 Theme music: Uplift Corporate Inspire by OlexandrIgnatov
01:25 Relax by LuckyBlackCat
10:00 Grass Roots by simming
21:40 Wellness Temple by Basspartout
25:08 Fun and Flirty by BrownHouseMedia
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Aug 24, 2021 • 23min
085: Sonal Bahl on Managing Expectations
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 85, Sonal Bahl offers practical insight worth hearing through amazing stories. She challenges us to rethink how we set expectations. Sonal then talks about the wrong way to talk publicly. Finally, she advises us in practical ways, including following the Platinum Rule.
Prologue
Sonal helps people find a career that they can love. As a career strategist, Sonal gives clients the extra edge needed to land that job, get promoted, and improve their happiness. She hosts How I Got Hired, a top-rated career podcast, and has several career development videos Worth viewing. For example, Sonal broadcasts live on LinkedIn, YouTube, and Facebook a series called, #SuperChargeFridays.
01:33 Part 1: Rethinking Expectations
Just after college, Sonal explains how her sister said three words that have profoundly influenced and changed her outlook on life. Frequently, Sonal shares these words with clients and listeners.
04:54 Part 2: What Not to Say Publicly
To begin, Sonal shares a story from early in her career, just after being promoted to Team Leader at GE Capital. She explains a situation in which she describes a horrible experience. Sonal then talks about a positive experience at GE Capital.
10:27 Part 3: The Platinum Rule and More!
Sonal shares some practical advice. She challenges us to work on ourselves while following the Platinum Rule.
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How You Can Support the Show
Unlabeled Leadership is a free service for people to learn about leadership. If you want to support the show, you can make a $0.99 donation. Your support reduces production expenses. https://anchor.fm/unlabeled-leadership/support
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Episode links
Sonal’s LinkedIn Profile, website, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube
Sonal’s podcast and example episodes
44. David Lancefield: Fastrack your Career
43. Jill Katz: How to Discover your Sparkle
36. Stella Da Silva: How to attract Stella(r) career opportunities
As mentioned on the show, Coach Kon discusses the Platinum Rule.
Episode 058: Kon Apostolopoulos Gives Back to the Community
Gary DePaul’s website
Background Music
You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.
00:00 Theme music: Uplift Corporate Inspire by OlexandrIgnatov
01:14 Slow Jazz with Strings by EvolvingVibes
04:36 Russian Soul by V-Audio
10:10 Latin Acoustic by TexasBrother
21:33 Fun and Flirty by BrownHouseMedia
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Aug 19, 2021 • 25min
084: George Gu on Finding Potential and Adapting
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 083: George Gu explains how a professor introduced Human Resource Management to him. He then shares a story about how his manager supported him during a complex implementation. Finally, George shares some advice from a Chief Strategy Officer.
Prologue
George Gu resides in Shanghai City, China, where he is the Co-Founder of Improvement Consulting Group (ICG). ICG has completed more than 300 consulting projects and trained more than 60,000 professionals in more than 30 industries. George is dedicated to helping businesses improve their performance and stewarding the next generation of talent development professionals. As part of his stewardship, George has accepted to be the next President of the International Society for Performance Improvement (ISPI).
01:14 Part 1: America, The Beautiful Country
George tells a story about a professor who introduced George to Human Resource Management.
13:28 Part 2: What Happens When the Manager Believes in You
In this story, George describes a complex and stressful implementation. In the story, George’s manager demonstrates leadership in how she supports George during the project.
21:04 Part 3: Inspiring Courage
George shares advice from a Chief Strategy Officer that aligns with the Believe in Others leadership principle.
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How You Can Support the Show
Unlabeled Leadership is a free service for people to learn about leadership. If you want to support the show, you can make a $0.99 donation. Your support reduces production expenses. https://anchor.fm/unlabeled-leadership/support
No transcript available (future enhancement)
Episode links
George’s LinkedIn Profile and website
George’s Training Master Series Videos
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary's books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
Background Music
You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.
00:00 Theme music: Uplift Corporate Inspire by OlexandrIgnatov
00:00 Jazz Time 01 by V-Audio
13:07 Nature by MarbleSpace
20:45 Refraction by simming
23:57 Fun and Flirty by BrownHouseMedia
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Aug 17, 2021 • 6min
083: Talent Review Ain’t Succession Planning
What happens when a senior executive leaves the organization? Succession planning is a way to answer this question. Executives use this process to identify employees who could potentially take over vacant roles that are critical to the continued success of an organization.
While succession planning applies to the top-level, critical roles (typically the top three career levels), talent review is another process that applies to almost all levels of an organization. In the literature, authors frequently describe talent review but label it as succession planning. Talent review ain’t succession planning; however, blending the two concepts isn’t necessarily a bad idea.
00:45 Part 1: Succession Planning
01:44 Part 2: Talent Review
03:28 Part 3: What Can Get You In Trouble
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How You Can Support the Show
Unlabeled Leadership is a free service for people to learn about leadership. If you want to support the show, you can make a $0.99 donation. Your support reduces production expenses. https://anchor.fm/unlabeled-leadership/support
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Episode links
Note: Some of the following succession planning articles are about the talent review process or blends talent review and succession planning.
Training Industry February 2019 Issue: The Role of L&D in Succession Planning
The Talent Strategy Group: Your Potential Model is Wrong (or at least not right)
TLNT:
Why Your HiPo Program May Be a Waste of Time and Money
6 Steps to Great Talent Reviews
The Motivations and Behaviors That Define High Potential Employees
Corporate Executive Board: What Makes a High-Potential?Quite Possibly Not What You Think…
Chief Learning Officer: How to reduce bias in talent review meetings
The Bridgespan Group: Talent Review and Development Process: A Step-by-Step Guide
Oracle: Using Talent Review and Succession Management
Human Capital Institute: Ditch Your 9 Box and Simplify Succession Planning for Success
Gary DePaul’s website
Background Music
You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.
00:00 Theme music: Uplift Corporate Inspire by OlexandrIgnatov
00:35 Let's Go Have Fun by pinkzebra
01:27 Upbeat Latino Guitars by Remstunes
03:10 Cool Jazzby Remstunes
04:57 Fun and Flirty by BrownHouseMedia
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Aug 5, 2021 • 20min
082 Angela Shaw on Building Connections and Relationships
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 82, Angela Shaw talks about how someone helped inspired her to consider other viewpoints. She then discusses the effect one manager had on her with how they developed their relationship. Finally, Angela encourages us to consider some ways to connect with other employees in our organizations.
Prologue
Angela is the Chief People Officer at Juiceland in Austin, Texas. She is a steward to the HR, instructor, volunteer, speaker, and models inclusiveness, empathy, and lifelong learning.
01:27 Part 1: Viewpoint Limitations
In this story, Angela describes how someone helped her rethink how she considers other people’s viewpoints. She explains how this relates to grace.
17:48 Part 2: Caring Concern
Angela shares the effect one manager had by how they developed their relationship. She talks about why some people find it challenging to openly discuss social-political news, such as the Black Lives Matter movement, the murder of unarmed Americans, and hate crimes against Asian-Americans.
13:57 Part 3: Connecting through Similarities
During the 21stCentury, organizations have made several advances in diversifying their workforce. While the shift is crucial, Angela encourages us to consider additional ways to connect with other employees.
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How You Can Support the Show
Unlabeled Leadership is a free service for people to learn about leadership. If you want to support the show, you can make a $0.99 donation. Your support reduces production expenses. https://anchor.fm/unlabeled-leadership/support
No transcript available (future enhancement)
Episode links
82 Angela’s LinkedIn Profile
Podcast Episode 004: Judy Hale and the Brown Suit
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
Background Music
You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.
00:00 Theme music: Uplift Corporate Inspire by OlexandrIgnatov
01:08 Stranger by V-Audio
07:30 Move Your Lounge by V-Audio
13:38 Funking Together by V-Audio
18:42 Fun and Flirty by BrownHouseMedia
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