

Unlabeled Leadership
Gary DePaul
Unlabeled Leadership is a volunteer-led service that shares stories about leadership. Rather than using labels that mystify and obscure the meaning of leadership, Gary DePaul and guests share personal leadership stories. Listeners are from 90 countries and 1,030 cities (or territories). 32 podcast platforms broadcast Unlabeled Leadership episodes.
About Gary A. DePaul, PhD: https://www.garyadepaul.com
About Gary A. DePaul, PhD: https://www.garyadepaul.com
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Oct 19, 2021 • 17min
101: Dave Barton, Courage, Values, and Decisions
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 101, Dave Barton explains something he learned from a mentor when they were told that a senior-level manager was running late for their meeting. Dave then shares a story about a race and explains how his sister valued a friend more than achieving a personal goal. Next, Dave advises us on how we can strengthen how we lead.
Prologue
If you have a small business and need help with performance or talent development, you’ll want to contact Dave Barton. Dave consults with business owners about training employees and designs learning interventions. He also works at the National Park Service as a Training Manager, and Dave teaches business at Wilkes Community College. He also blogs on the HPT Treasures website (HPT is Human Performance Technology, a field that leverages evidence-based methods and techniques to improve performance results).
01:05 Part 1: Priorities and Values
06:55 Part 2: What Is Really Important in a Team Race
14:38 Part 3: Doors of Opportunities
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Episode links
Dave’s LinkedIn Profile
HPT Treasure website
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Oct 14, 2021 • 22min
100: Zach Giglio, Leadership, and Sweeping the Shed
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 100, Zach Giglio shares an impactful experience with his CEO during the start of his career. He then explains why some of the best rugby teams come from smaller countries, specifically the All Blacks. He then advises us on how we can strengthen our leadership.
Prologue
With more than a decade of experience in public relations, public affairs, marketing, and digital and social media, I can safely say that Zach is a communications expert! Before starting his own boutique communications firm, Zach worked for the most prominent public relations agency globally (located in Washington D.C. and Johannesburg) and has worked as an independent contractor.
01:23 Part 1: Customer Alignment
08:37 Part 2: Even the Captain Cleans
14:28 Part 3: The Five-Word Ask
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Episode links
Zach’s LinkedIn Profile, website, LinkedIn company page, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook
New Zealand’s All Blacks
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Oct 12, 2021 • 23min
099: Mark McNally Has the Courage to Embrace Transparency
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 99, Mark McNally talks about a friend’s observation that raises Mark’s awareness about his work balance. He then shares a story about a company he took public, which transitioned to a discussion about transparency, vulnerability, trust, and loyalty. Mark also advises us to challenge our assumptions.
Prologue
Of all the officers of companies who I’ve met, Mark is the first one with the title Chief Nobody (Co-founder and Chief Nobody of Nobody Studios). He is an accomplished product and marketing executive who has successfully scaled organizations from startup to multinational establishments. He has traveled to more than forty countries and almost all the U.S. states to collaborate with customers and investors.
01:25 Part 1: Shifting Gears to Maintain Balance
06:42 Part 2: Trust Is More Powerful than Spinning a Narrative
16:02 Part 3: Red Teaming
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Transcript through Otter (expect some inaccuracies)
Episode links
Mark’s LinkedIn Profile, Twitter
Nobody Studios LinkedIn page, website, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Oct 7, 2021 • 19min
098: Sumit Gupta Applies Leadership Beyond Work
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 98, Sumit Gupta tells two powerful leadership stories that helped shape how he perceives leadership and leads. Sumit also advises us on how we can substantially impact our time by making a small change.
Prologue
Sumit is on a journey to elevate leadership in organizations, leverage the heroic spirit of business for good, and create a world where we can discuss any issue with love - as comrades rather than adversaries. Sumit is a leadership coach who has started three businesses, one being a nonprofit. His photography is eloquent in that it tells a story without the need for words. Sumit is gifted at helping others see their power because he spent much of his life hiding his own. He can see where you are powerful even when you cannot.
01:35 Part 1: Do You Think You Work with Superheroes?
06:10 Part 2: Discovering What It Means to Lead
14:37 Part 3: You Are Ready for an Audit!
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Transcript through Otter (expect some inaccuracies)
Episode links
Sumit’s LinkedIn Profile, business website, photography website, Twitter, Facebook
My favorite photograph by Sumit
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Oct 5, 2021 • 23min
097: Matt Richter and The Unpredictability of Leadership Potential
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 97, Matt Richter explains what Mieke Bal said to him and explains Thiagi SPARK Trust Model. He then talks about U.S. presidents, specifically tells us John Tyler’s leadership moment. He then advises us to not overthink the term leadership.
Prologue
Just because Matt is modest, I’m still going to share some about him! He is the President of the Thiagi Group and one of THE L&D Accelerator (LDA) founders, a global community of talent development professionals. In addition to public speaking, he has consulted with several organizations about talent development and performance improvement. Do you want to increase interactivity in your online learning? If so, talk to Matt about LOLA, or go to the Thiagi Group website for several free resources.
01:33 Part 1: Find Your Thiagi SPARK
06:37 Part 2: John Tyler’s Moment
15:22 Part 3: Labeling and Pressure
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Episode links
Matt’s LinkedIn Profile, The Thiagi Group, Truth in Learning Podcast
The Learning & Development Accelerator
HPT Treasures
Matt’s books
The Leadership Story (Matt has several stories about U.S. presidents)
LOLA-Live Online Learning Activities
Angela Merkel
Mieke Bal’s book, Narratology
SPARK: The Trust Model
John Tyler
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Sep 30, 2021 • 26min
096: Timm Esque and The Embodiment of Leadership
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 96, Timm Esque talks about how an instructor caused him to realize he was thinking too much (too much “in his head”). He then shares a story about how a project manager supported his team and went against harmful cultural norms. Timm advises us to pursue embodiment training and explains how this training helped him overcome fear and trust himself more.
Prologue
Timm is an author, instructor, speaker, consultant, and the Managing Partner of East Valley Leader Lab. At the lab, Timm’s organization provides courses that emphasize body and mind (somatic) practices, making leaders more aware of how they are showing up to others, versus simply learning new concepts. Timm started his career with 15 years at Intel Corporation before founding a management consulting company he ran for more than 20 years.
01:07 Part 1: When Your Body Reacts for You
11:38 Part 2: An Example of Courage
19:25 Part 3: Embodiment, Realizations, and How You Show Up
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Episode links
Timm’s LinkedIn Profile
Company’s website, LinkedIn, Facebook
Timm’s books
No Surprises Project Management
Making an Impact
Case Studies in Performance Improvement
Phoenix Business Radio interview with Timm Esque and Amanda Stradling
Bob Dunham
Richard Strozzi-Heckler
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Sep 28, 2021 • 25min
095: Kim Campbell Gets to the Heart of Leadership
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 95, Kim explains what someone who reported to her said that clarified how she would lead her squadron. When she became a Group Commander, Kim describes how she connected with a team of firefighters. Then, Kim advises how we can lead with courage.
Prologue
Kim “KC” Campbell is a retired Air Force Colonel and fighter pilot (call sign: Killer Chick). During her 24-years of service, she completed multiple deployments, holding successive leadership positions as a flight lead to the Director for the Center for Character and Leadership Development at the United States Air Force Academy. If you need a keynote speaker, Kim can get the job done, and your audience will leave with insights into leadership.
01:32 Part 1: Showing the Human Side
Taking command of a squadron comes with a formal ceremony. At Kim’s, something unusual happened that resulted in a comment that someone made to Kim that put how she would lead into perspective.
07:57 Part 2: Check Your Ego at the Door
Connecting with a small team that you work with daily has its challenges. Having a team of a thousand spread across multiple locations has even more challenges. In this story, Kim shares an instance of how she connected with a team of firefighters who reported to her when she was a Group Commander.
16:04 Part 3: Courage Unlabeled
Kim advises us to lead with courage. She explains four ways to be courageous, which may surprise you.
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How You Can Support the Show
Unlabeled Leadership is a free service for people to learn about leadership. If you want to support the show, you can make a $0.99 donation. Your support reduces production expenses. https://anchor.fm/unlabeled-leadership/support
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Episode links
Kim’s LinkedIn Profile, speaker’s page, Twitter
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
Background Music
You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.
00:00 Theme music: Uplift Corporate Inspire by OlexandrIgnatov
01:15 Uplifting Adventure Rock by pinkzebra
07:42 Into The Jazz by Korolkov
15:46 Uplifting Spanish Guitar by Dredstudio
23:30 Fun and Flirty by BrownHouseMedia
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Sep 23, 2021 • 23min
094: Chris Cebollero and the Science of Leadership
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 91, Chris Cebollero talks about the science of leadership, how his old managerial behaviors harmed the people around him, and how we can find new opportunities and growth from our failures and mistakes.
Prologue
Chris Cebollero is an internationally recognized leadership specialist, best-selling author, motivational teacher, and executive producer of KLDR Online, a Leadership Development Talk Radio Station that began leadership development shows on September 6, 2021.
01:04 Part 1: Where Do We Learn about Leadership?
Chris begins by sharing a comment that someone made about Chris’s harmful approach to management. What follows is a fascinating conversation about the science of leadership.
09:54 Part 2: Learning from Failures and Mistakes
In this story, Chris describes how a VP in his company had to explain how his management behavior harmed the people around him. Chris then discusses how failures and mistakes can be painful but can lead to new opportunities and growth.
16:30 Part 3: Polish Your Knowledge
Chris advises us on how we can leverage knowledge to develop ourselves. He also describes John Maxwell’s Law of Process.
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How You Can Support the Show
Unlabeled Leadership is a free service for people to learn about leadership. If you want to support the show, you can make a $0.99 donation. Your support reduces production expenses. https://anchor.fm/unlabeled-leadership/support
No transcript available (future enhancement)
Episode links
Chris’s LinkedIn Profile, website, Twitter
KLDR Online
The Ultimate Leadership Podcast (with more than one million plays)
Chris’s books
Ultimate Success
Ultimate Leadership
Dear Younger Self
Your Leadership Effectiveness
The Process of Improvement KAIZEN
Video: John Maxwell and the Law of Process
Avoid The 12 Year Gap Trap
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
Background Music
You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.
00:00 Theme music: Uplift Corporate Inspire by OlexandrIgnatov
00:46 Travel Together by simming
09:36 Uplifting Acoustic Summer by pinkzebra
16:12 Motivation Loop by fatbunny
22:23 Fun and Flirtyby BrownHouseMedia
Lead on!

Sep 21, 2021 • 16min
093: Ty Bennett Distinguishes Motivation from Removing Inhibitors
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 93, Ty Bennett explains something a mentor said that affected his outlook on his business and life. He then shares a fantastic story of leadership involving his son and a refrigerator. Next, Ty advises us on how we can lead more effectively.
Prologue
I’ve known Ty for about four years and have watched his Monday Morning Mantra video series frequently. Ty is one of the most popular keynote speakers I know, and he has authored a few books as well. Not only does he frequently speak to organizations, but he also speaks Portuguese and is the father of five children.
01:14 Part 1: Unintended Self-Infliction
Ty shares a story from his days when he and his brother ran a direct sales business. He explains something that a mentor once said to him. What he heard affected his attitude towards his business and all aspects of his life.
06:19 Part 2: Motivators and Inhibitors
The story that Ty shares is the first story that I heard from Ty. It shares a crucial perspective about leadership and distinguishes two approaches to handling a challenge with a young son.
12:04 Part 3: One Behavior Required to Lead Effectively
Ty advises us on how we can lead more effectively. He explains one of the leadership principles related to learning.
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How You Can Support the Show
Unlabeled Leadership is a free service for people to learn about leadership. If you want to support the show, you can make a $0.99 donation. Your support reduces production expenses. https://anchor.fm/unlabeled-leadership/support
No transcript available (future enhancement)
Episode links
Ty’s LinkedIn Profile, website, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram
Ty’s books
The Power of Storytelling
Partnership Is the New Leadership
The Power of Influence
The Two Most Important Days of Your Life
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
Background Music
You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.
00:00 Theme music: Uplift Corporate Inspire by OlexandrIgnatov
00:59 Inspiring Emotional Cinematic Piano and Strings by pinkzebra
06:01 Chill Relax Summer Mood by Deodo
11:45 Uplifting Acoustic by pinkzebra
14:47 Fun and Flirtyby BrownHouseMedia
Lead on!

Sep 16, 2021 • 14min
092: Alex Kummerow Enables People by Leading
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 92, Alex Kummerow describes something said to him that changed his thinking about leadership. He then shares a story about a challenging subject-matter expert. Then, Alex shares some foundational advice to help us lead more effectively.
Prologue
Alex is one of the few professionals who transitioned from working in a public school system to working in corporate America. At GP Strategies Corporation, Alex is the Marketing and Communications Lead for GM Dealership training. He leverages his skills in talent development, facilitation, communication, marketing, and project management to meet the needs of his internal and external stakeholders. Alex graduated in Communications and earned a Master’s degree in Organizational Performance and Workforce Learning.
01:13 Part 1: Executing Tasks Instead of Leading
Alex explains that, years ago, he preferred executing tasks to leading. In this story, Alex explains how someone said something to change his thinking about the value and importance of leadership.
00:00 Part 2: Empowering A Subject-Matter Expert
While working in a training department, Alex managed a project that involved instructional designers and subject-matter experts (SME). In this story, Alex describes a challenging SME, how he diagnosed a problem and empowered the SME while resolving the issue.
11:14 Part 3: Being Respectful
Alex shares some foundational advice to help us lead more effectively.
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How You Can Support the Show
Unlabeled Leadership is a free service for people to learn about leadership. If you want to support the show, you can make a $0.99 donation. Your support reduces production expenses. https://anchor.fm/unlabeled-leadership/support
No transcript available (future enhancement)
Episode links
Alex’s LinkedIn Profile
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
Background Music
You can find all the musical tracks at Envato Elements.
00:00 Theme music: Uplift Corporate Inspire by OlexandrIgnatov
00:56 Fun & Playful Road Trip by pinkzebra
06:09 Elegant Corporate Background by DmytroIgnatov
10:55 Up Jazz by HD-Studio
13:06 Fun and Flirty by BrownHouseMedia
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