

Unlabeled Leadership
Gary DePaul
Unlabeled Leadership is a volunteer-led service that shares stories about leadership. Rather than using labels that mystify and obscure the meaning of leadership, Gary DePaul and guests share personal leadership stories. Listeners are from 90 countries and 1,030 cities (or territories). 32 podcast platforms broadcast Unlabeled Leadership episodes.
About Gary A. DePaul, PhD: https://www.garyadepaul.com
About Gary A. DePaul, PhD: https://www.garyadepaul.com
Episodes
Mentioned books

Feb 22, 2022 • 15min
131: Jack Bucalo on Obtaining Softskill Training Buy-In
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 131, Jack Bucalo describes three softskill categories, explains why executives resist buying into softskill training, how to obtain buy-in to softskill training, and explains the advantages to this softskill training approach.
Prologue
Jack Bucalo has authored more than fifty detailed and actionable articles about HR and leadership development. When Jack was the Corporate Senior VP of Human Resources and Chief HR Officer for Fiserv, he partnered with the Chief Executive Officer and the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee to develop the first Fiserv executive development leadership center.
01:36 Part 1: Describing Softskills and Explaining Buy-In Reluctance
4:38 Part 2: Aligning Softskills to Business Objectives
10:52 Part 3: Summarizing the Main Points
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Robynne Orr is the opening voice narrator. To learn more about her amazing storytelling capabilities, visit Robynne’s website, R.ORR.
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Episode links
Jack’s LinkedIn Profile
Jack’s articles
Leadership Development Dilemma: Priority on Soft or Hard Skills?
Leadership Development – The Urgent Need for A Major Paradigm Shift
A New Path Forward to Leadership Development Success
Article with links to research studies: Leadership development is creating a dilemma
HR Exchange Network
BIZCATALYST 360°
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Feb 15, 2022 • 21min
130: Curtis Odom Stewards Others to Succeed
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 130, Curtis Odom talks about a high school counselor, explains what he learned from the best manager he has ever worked with, and advises us on strengthening how we lead.
Prologue
Dr. Curtis Odom is an experienced entrepreneur, business owner, and former Fortune 100 executive. He is an author, teacher, consultant, and coach who motivates, educates, and inspires others to achieve their highest levels of success both professionally and personally. Curtis served in the Navy, navigated various roles in firms and corporations, and now is an Executive Professor of Management at Northeastern University. He also is a member of the Forbes Coaches Council and Distinguished Principal Research Fellow at The Conference Board.
01:49 Part 1: Lighting a Fire
07:34 Part 2: "Working with" Rather than "Working for"
14:32 Part 3: Feedback Is Something You Have to Ask for
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Robynne Orr is the opening voice narrator. To learn more about her amazing storytelling capabilities, visit Robynne’s website, R.ORR.
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Episode links
Curtis’ LinkedIn Profile, website, Twitter
Curtis’ book, Things I Heard My Professor Say
Admiral Grace Hopper
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Feb 8, 2022 • 18min
129: Brad Smith Inspires People to be at Their Best
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 129, Brad Smith shares a story about developing self-awareness, how a bus breaking down led to leadership, and how Brad, as a supervisor, led to increased productivity. Brad then advises us on how we can strengthen our leadership.
Prologue
Brad was an analytical and formulation chemist, a production plant and equipment designer, and a janitor, among other things. Since 1996, Brad Smith started Stellar Insight, Inc. He coaches CEOs and business owners on igniting their business growth. He researches and learns why and how things work and how to make them evolve and get better.
01:36 Part 1: Emotional Self-Awareness
08:01 Part 2: Step In and Make A Difference
13:36 Part 3: Integrity and the Walking Billboard
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Robynne Orr is the opening voice narrator. To learn more about her amazing storytelling capabilities, visit Robynne’s website, R.ORR.
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Episode links
Brad’s LinkedIn Profile, website, company LinkedIn page
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Feb 1, 2022 • 28min
128: Diego Ugalde Explains that Mistakes Are the Pathway to Growth
128: Diego Ugalde Explains that Mistakes Are the Pathway to Growth
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 127, Diego Ugalde shares a fable by Alan Watts, explains how walking among workers doesn’t give you the pulse of employees, and talks about a conversation that he had with his daughter.
Prologue
As a Navy SEAL, Diego Ugalde served three combat tours in Iraq. He participated in more than 250 highly classified combat and Advanced Special Operations missions. Now retired, Diego is the CEO of The Trident Approach. His team of current and former Navy SEALS teach the best of what they learned from their time in The Teams. They have a Deep Connection to the SELF and to Humanity.
01:03 Part 1: Using a Different Lens
10:42 Part 2: Do You Know Your Own Pulse?
19:47 Part 3: Mistakes, Curiosity, and Growth
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Episode links
Diego's LinkedIn Profile, The Trident Approach website, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, email
Video, Alan Watts ~ The Story of the Chinese Farmer
Greatest asset, FranklinCovey and HarperCollins Leadership Release Book, Master Mentors (read the Todd Davis excerpt)
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Jan 25, 2022 • 24min
127: Scott Jeffrey Miller with Stories of Humility and Gratitude
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 127, Scott Miller shares what Hyrum W. Smith said to him, talks about a story in which the president of his division showed courage and kindness, and advises us about retaining employees.
Prologue
Capping a 25-year career as a chief marketing officer and executive vice president of business development, Scott Jeffrey Miller currently serves as FranklinCovey’s senior advisor on thought leadership. Scott hosts On Leadership with Scott Miller, the world’s largest and fastest-growing leadership podcast, reaching more than six million people weekly.
01:39 Part 1: Perspective: A Life with No Arms or Legs
06:36 Part 2: Striking a Match at A Gas Station
16:05 Part 3: The Relationship Asset
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Episode links
Scott’s LinkedIn Profile, website, books, 100 Coaches profile, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram,
Inc. column
Podcast, FranklinCovey On Leadership with Scott Miller
FranklinCovey website
Hyrum W. Smith
Episode 087: Ed Gash on Gratitude for Feedback
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Jan 21, 2022 • 8min
126: Peri Chickering Talks about the Mind-Body Disconnect (bonus)
Episode 126 is a bonus episode in which I share an Episode 125 between-the-scenes conversation. Peri reflects on Part 2, which we just recorded. She makes some remarkable comments about the head and the heart.
After the conversation, I close with a quotation from James C. Hunter. The quotation is from his book, The Servant.
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Episode links
Peri’s LinkedIn Profile, website, Twitter, Facebook
Peri’s book, Leadership Flow: The Unstoppable Power of Connection
James C. Hunter’s book, The Servant: A Simple Story About the True Essence of Leadership
Episode 125: Peri Chickering and The Power of the Pause
Episode 8: Ronald Graves Differentiates the Coaching Role
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Jan 18, 2022 • 24min
125: Peri Chickering and The Power of the Pause
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 125, Peri Chickering shares what a colleague said about how Peri helped her lead more effectively. She then shares a remarkable story about how an administrator forged new connections with faculty members. Next, Peri advises us on how we can strengthen our pause muscle.
Prologue
Peri Chickering is an author, coach, consultant, herbalist, and leadership educator. She has worked in the field of wilderness-based leadership and has run her own leadership school in Colorado and later in South Africa and Bulgaria. Peri has earned her Ph.D. in human and organizational systems. She now lives in New Hampshire with her husband, cat, and two horses and stewards 55 acres of woodlands.
02:22 Part 1: Tolerance for Silence
09:30 Part 2: Courage from the Heart
17:59 Part 3: Slow Down
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Episode links
Peri’s LinkedIn Profile, website, Twitter, Facebook
Peri’s book, Leadership Flow: The Unstoppable Power of Connection
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Jan 11, 2022 • 30min
124: Robin Stimson and the Importance of Being Valued
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 124, Robin Stimson shares a memorable quotation from her mother, talks about the importance of valuing others, and represents those who cannot represent themselves. She advises us about strengthening our ability to be courageous.
Prologue
Robin Stimson is the owner of forwardBravely and is a Manager of Victim Services. She aids individuals who have been injured or lost loved ones. Robin received her Master’s in Social Work from the University of Maryland, Baltimore. She cultivated many resources for families, including a series of grief/trauma workshops, virtual support groups, and shareable videos. Her social work experience has been vital in advocating, educating, and preparing victims for everything from the criminal justice system to loss and renewal.
01:09 Part 1: Accepting Change
07:55 Part 2: Courage and Good Trouble
22:45 Part 3: Strengthening Your Courage Muscle
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Episode links
Robin’s LinkedIn Profile and website
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Jan 4, 2022 • 27min
123: Nigel Paine on Trust, Diversity, and the Pomodoro Technique
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 123, Nigel Paine tells a story about trust, shares three ideas that can help us lead, and advises us about pursuing interests and the Pomodoro Technique.
Prologue
Nigel has worked in learning and leadership for 25 years. He has produced learning software and award-winning multi-media materials. Nigel consults with global organizations to help them develop learning cultures and create more humane and developmental workplaces. He authored three books, is the co-host of Learning Now Television, and co-hosts From Scratch, a discussion podcast with Martin Couzins. Nigel teaches doctoral students at UPenn. He.
01:05 Part 1: Trust
05:29 Part 2: Dangers of the Eco Chambers
21:08 Part 3: Threads of Interest and the Pomodoro Technique
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Episode links
Nigel’s LinkedIn Profile, website, books & articles, author’s page,
From Scratch podcast
Learning Now TV
Penn Chief Learning Officer, Doctor of Education (Ed.D.)
The Pomodoro Technique
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!

Dec 30, 2021 • 32min
122: Host picks about Caring and Giving: Angela Shaw, John Riordan, Nicole Jones, and Joynicole Martinez
In Episode 122, I picked four parts from previous episodes about caring and giving.
01:53 Part 1: Angela Shaw, Feeling Safe, Respectful Dialogue, and Outreach
08:03 Part 2: John Riordan Connects with the People in Uganda
16:35 Part 3: Nicole Jones Gives Voice to an Assistant
24:22 Part 4: Joynicole Martinez and Humanity
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Episode links
Zach’s LinkedIn Profile, Angela Shaw, John Riordan, Nicole Jones, Joynicole Martinez
Episodes
082: Angela Shaw on Building Connections and Relationships
080: John Riordan on Building Leadership in Uganda
060: Nicole Jones Nurtures Progressive Partnerships
106: Joynicole Martinez Is Joyful and Passionate about Leadership
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership
The 2022 HRBP Report
Lead on!


