
Searching for Mana with Lloyd Wahed
Welcome to the Searching for Mana show in association with the London Stock Exchange, the leading podcast that interviews tech's most influential leaders, innovators and disruptors to discover their mana – the superpower that has helped them to succeed. Hosted by Lloyd Wahed, co-founder of the Mana group, which is focused on building the future of work via their search, lab and venture business, the podcast is a must-see/listen for industry insiders, established or budding entrepreneurs, or anyone with an interest in the most exciting and dynamic sector in the world.
Latest episodes

Aug 24, 2021 • 21min
Enabling the future: Green Finance | Fireside Chat Fintech Week London 2021 | Romina Savova, PensionBee | Joe Parkin, Blackrock
This week we are presenting a very special Fireside Chat as part of Fintech Week London 2021 broadcasted live from Barclays Rise. Joining Lloyd Wahed, we’ll have special guests from PensionBee and Blackrock explaining different strategies to encourage green finance: excluding fossil fuel producers from investments, engage with fossil fuel producers and how to encourage them to change, impact investing and actually putting your money into companies that are actively doing things to make the world better.Romi Savova, who founded PensionBee in 2014 to simplify pension savings in the UK, following a difficult pension transfer experience of her own. As the Chief Executive Officer, she has played a pivotal role in advancing consumer standards in the pensions industry, from reducing transfer times to campaigning for the full abolition of exit fees. Romi is also a member of the government’s Pensions Dashboards Programme Steering Group, which was set up to advise on the delivery of pensions dashboards.Joe Parkin, Managing Director, Head of Banks and Digital Channels in the UK at BlackRock. In his role he is responsible for BlackRock's relationships with Private, Retail and Neo Banks, as well as Digital Channels in the UK.Big thanks to our co-organizers Erlang Solutions, the éminence grise behind some fintech projects of Klarna, Mastercard, Bloomberg LP.

Aug 17, 2021 • 40min
What is Next For Blockchain in Financial Services? Fintech Week London 2021 Panel | Chris Skinner, The Finanser | Marcus Treacher, Clear Bank / Ripple | Haydn Jones, PwC | Simon Taylor, 11:FS | Erlang Solutions
Speculations, hypes, doges, icos, nfts aside.. what’s next for blockchain in financial services? How can this underlying technology disrupt the banking system? This week we are presenting a very special panel session as part of Fintech Week London 2021 broadcasted live from Barclays Rise. We’ll have Chris Skinner, author of the Finanser, Marcus Treacher, board director of ClearBank/ ex-Ripple, Haydn Jones, PwC Director and Blockchain Specialist and the very Simon Taylor, co-founder and blockchain lead at 11:FS.Big thanks to our co-organizers Erlang Solutions, the éminence grise behind some fintech projects of Klarna, Mastercard, Bloomberg LP. Who this panel is for:All invested in the London FinTech ecosystemDecision-makers in financial servicesCEOs and founders setting the pace in the FS startup spaceFinTech scale-ups looking to accelerate growthCTOs, lead architects & senior developers wanting to share and gain domain knowledgeWhy you should listen:To discover where the real business value exists from blockchain away from the hypeLearn from those at the cutting edge of the tech powering FinTech’s next stepsFind jargon-busting real-world use cases from tech and business level experts to reduce costs, improve processes and gain competitive advantageFind more episodes on blockchain with previous guests from Binance, Kraken, Celsius Network, Gemini, Luno, Eterna Capital and more on searchingformana.com

Aug 10, 2021 • 54min
The crypto platform with 8 million customers | Sam Kopelman, Luno
This week, Luno’s UK Country Manager Sam Kopelman joins Ollie Brown, our Blockchain Associate Director for an enlightening chat about crypto, entrepreneurship, career progression and so much more!After graduating UCL, Sam joined Rocket Internet, building their operations in Minsk from employee zero to later become a Regional Head in Eurasia. Since then he worked in Berlin, and Paris helping other challenger businesses to grow and scale across Europe. With his new role at Luno, he shares incredible insight into blockchain and crypto space.Luno is a leading global cryptocurrency company with over 8 million customers across 43 countries to date. Touching on everything from DeFI, CBDC, Sam and Ollie talk everything crypto has to offer. Then they dig into Sam’s fascinating career sharing his stories from Belarus and other valuable lessons.Find more episodes on blockchain with previous guests from Binance, Kraken, Celsius Network, Gemini, Eterna Capital and more on searchingformana.comEpisode Highlights:02:27: Simplifying cryptocurrency investments03:43: Can blockchain revolutionise traditional finance?11:32: On altcoins17:45: Building a Rocket Internet’s venture in Belarus from scratch34:36: Berlin and Paris experience40:22: Sam’s Mana45:28: On the ads controversy47:40: On the future of crypto

Jul 27, 2021 • 54min
Why is the mortgage industry so archaic? | Richard Hayes, Mojo Mortgages
Mojo Mortgages CEO and co-founder Richard Hayes tells Lloyd Wahed how he went from a studying music to founding a leading UK online mortgage broker, that disrupts the sector through its hybrid of smart tech and human mortgage experts.After their Series A funding of £7.6 million, mojo has excelled, recently being the finalist at the British Bank Awards 2021. With their acquisition by RVU (the owner of Uswitch, Confused.com and Money.co.uk) underway, this is set to be a monumental deal that will enable mojo to set its vision to scale faster and have a greater impact.Richard has over ten years of experience in the financial services sector, this, combined with his passion for technology, is the driving force behind Mojo. On the podcast, Richard and Lloyd discuss the reason Mojo didn’t just focus on the mortgage broking service, and expanded into the development of their own suite of APIs, the creative and musical traits that make so many great founders and what it takes to disrupt the archaic mortgage sector. Plus, Richard shares his favourite books and how to balance family life whilst leading a successful fintech startup.For more episodes on founders, fintech and careers please visit: searchingformana.comFollow Mana Search on TwitterFollow Mana Search on LinkedInEpisode Highlights:02:12: The Acquisition annoucements04:44: The potential of UK mortgages 13:48: The first mortgage broker with the API suite17:49: Who’re the right people to be on the right problems 24:37: From music to a fintech founder33:34: A book guide for founders42:21: Disrupting the mortgage industry51:43: Richard’s Mana

Jul 20, 2021 • 47min
Do you know where your pension is invested? | Chris Eastwood, Penfold
Chris Eastwood, co-founder and co-CEO at Penfold, sits down with Lloyd to talk about how his digital-based pension platform for self-employed workers and SME’s. After entering the industry as a consultant with the Big Four, Chris leads now a UK-based fintech company that reached in 18 months 25,000 users with £25m of assets under management. The company is on a mission to give people more visibility and control over the environmental or social impact of their pension investments.In this episode, Lloyd and Chris discuss the motivations behind his journey to revolutionise the pension landscape, the opportunities to serve the UK SMEs and self-employed sectors, and Penfold’s partnership with Starling Bank or Just Eat, reaching their 300k SMEs and 18k riders customer base. Later they delve into Chris’ journey as an entrepreneur and the experience of leading a fintech company in midst of the COVID-pandemic.Follow Mana Search on TwitterFollow Mana Search on LinkedIn Episodes Highlights:01:32: Reaching 25,000 users in 18 months06:47: Building an end-to-end backend tech platform09:42: How can we track our old pension investments?13:37: Balancing the sustainability goals with performance21:18 Partnerships with Starling Bank and Just Eat30:05: Journey from management consultant, M&A to entrepreneurship40:01: Future plans 44:31: Chris’ Mana

Jul 13, 2021 • 53min
Fintech London Week: Fintech for the public good | Lord Holmes, MBE, House of Lords
This week, Lord Holmes, MBE joins Lloyd in this special episode, within the Fintech Week London 2021, for an enlightening chat about fintech, financial inclusion, crypto and so much more! Lord Holmes is the Vice-Chair of the Parliamentary Groups on Fintech, AI, Blockchain and 4IR. He is a member of the House of Lords Select Committee on Science and Technology and has co-authored Lords Select Committee reports on: Digital Skills, Social Mobility, Financial Inclusion, AI, Intergenerational Fairness and Democracy and Digital Technologies. He has also authored a report on ‘Distributed Ledger Technology for public good: leadership, collaboration, innovation.’A ex-Paralympic swimmer, Chris won nine gold, five silvers and one bronze Olympic medal across four Games, including a record haul of six golds at Barcelona 1992.Touching on everything from the importance of community building in fintech, UK financial landscape potential, Chris and Lloyd talk everything fintech and crypto has to offer. Then they dig into Chris’ career to provide inspiring advice: how to win gold medals, how to take feedback effectively, the importance of teamwork and other valuable lessons!Mana Search on TwitterMana Search on LinkedInEpisode Highlights:02:15: Passing financial services bills 09:35: Why should fintech IPO in the UK?13:38: The UK fintech talent pipeline16:36: Chris’ passion for tech20:08: Winning Olympic gold medals33:59: Predictions for the crypto space48:50: Chris’ Mana

Jun 29, 2021 • 46min
Should DeFi be regulated? | Jakub Zakrzewski, Kraken
This week, Kraken’s Managing Director Jakub Zakrzewski joins Lloyd for an enlightening chat about crypto, fintech, angel investment, career progression and so much more! A Forbes 30 under 30 superstar, with experience at companies like Rocket Internet and Revolut, Jakub offers incredible insight into both blockchain and fintech.Kraken is one of the world's largest and oldest cryptocurrency exchanges, with more than $1 billion worth of cryptocurrencies stoked to date. Touching on everything from the importance of the centralised side of DeFI, Jakub and Lloyd talk everything crypto has to offer. Then they dig into Jakub’s career to provide crucial advice: how to improve your own career algorithm, how hardworking is the core of many successful stories, how to cold email Revolut’s CEO for a job and other valuable lessons!Mana Search on TwitterMana Search on LinkedIn Episode Highlights:02:30: Kraken’s strategic development in APAC11:55: Should we regulate DeFi and digital assets industry?17:59: The cyclical nature of the cryptocurrencies’ market21:08: Building own career’s algorithm and the next-day flight ticket to Malaysia26:40 Working with Nik’s from Revolut28:28: Building a company from scratch in Hong Kong36:46: Angel investing, the traits of best founders and future of fintech43:44 Jakub’s Mana

Jun 15, 2021 • 1h 4min
The future of software development | Nicholas Mills, CircleCI
Nick Mills, CircleCI GM EMEA, joins Lloyd to discuss the future of tech and software engineering. The company, which is a software delivery platform automating development workflows and IT operations, has just reached a $1.7 billion valuation, after the recent $100 million Series F.And Nick has a unique perspective on the subject. Since 2008, he joined the tech giants like Microsoft or Facebook (pre-IPO stage), and later worked at Stripe closely with their founders Patrick and John. Since then, he's become an early-stage investor, non-exec director and board advisor in Fintech companies and the mini-CEO for CircleCI EMEA region.Lloyd and Nick discuss how Nick joined tech from a law degree, the VC and investment landscape in Europe, and differences between leading at large tech organisations versus early-stage startups. Plus, Nick tells us how software can be a catalyst for innovation and how investing can affect social impact with high leverage.Follow Mana Search on TwitterFollow Mana Search on LinkedInBooks:AccelerateOutliersBounceEpisode Highlights:01:32: How can we optimise software development?06:59: Global expansion with regionalisation and localisation12:47: Trends in software engineering18:52: Early-career and joining the tech industry25:36: DIfference between launching and scaling a fintech in the US vs Europe30:34: Lessons from working with Facebook engineers34:39: Working at early-stage startups and large organisation42:34: Nick’s Mana51:44: CircleCI’s growth plans and the future of software development hiring

Jun 8, 2021 • 42min
UK banking's most eccentric founder/ceo opens up | Mark Mullen, Atom Bank
Mark Mullen (CEO anad co-founder of Atom Bank) joins Lloyd to discuss the state of UK fintech, mortgage and SME lending and what it takes to disrupt UK banking.And he should know. Throughout his 30 years long career, Mark built his banking experience in a major incumbent bank - HSBC, and later resigned from the CEO position of first direct - one of the earliest adopters of digital UK banking - to take the first step on the next bold phase in his career, In 2014, he founded Atom Bank (with ex-Metro Bank co-founder) - UK’s first mobile bank built, with no branches, and the first digital-only challenger bank to be granted a full UK regulatory licence.In this episode, Mark and Lloyd talk about who actually finances the UK banking sectors, why the current account system is broken, can we process a mortgage application in under 15 seconds, as well as the journey of building a company from employee one to +400. Plus, he shares with us, how is it to work with Atom Bank’s strategic advisor - Will.i.am.Follow Mana Search on TwitterFollow Mana Search on LinkedInEpisode Highlights:03:04: How is the current banking system broken, and who is financing the banking sector09:06: Why we shouldn’t have all banking products from one provider14:35: How to process a mortgage application under 15 seconds22:32: The need to change the banking industry and resigning from the firstdirect CEO role27:36: Building a company from employee one to +400 and the importance of the organisational culture35:19: The vision for the next 10 years40:32: Mark’s Mana

May 27, 2021 • 1h 1min
For entrepreneurs, by entrepreneurs (a Silicon Valley VC & a Dragon Den’s Investor) | Andrew D'Souza, Clearco
We’ve got startup lending on the brain this week as serial VC Andrew D’Souza sits down with Lloyd to talk working capital, angel mentorship and so much more.As Founder and CEO of Clearco, Andrew made his name raising hundreds of millions of dollars in venture capital and is an adviser and investor to companies such as WealthSimple, Properly, and Tulip Retail. Since graduating engineering and working for McKinsey, he’s joined Chamath Palihapitiya in his venture right after his exit from Facebook in 2010, meeting the teams behind Instagram (before being Instagram) and Slack (before being Slack) whilst being in the Andreessen Horowitz’ fund. Today, he runs Clearco, an equity-free startup lender that has reached a $2B valuation.To kick off the episode, Andrew walks Lloyd through Clearco's aim to offer founder-friendly capital solutions for e-commerce, mobile apps, and SaaS founders; as well as access to a powerful global network, insights and data, and recommendations through their Angel branch, the conversation dives into the ways Andrew’s entrepreneurial journey since the age of 10, and how couples that work, can work.Follow Mana Search on TwitterFollow Mana Search on LinkedInCouples that Work, Professor Jennifer Petriglieri Episode Highlights:02:42: The difference between traditional venture capitalists and Clearco08:57 Why the world doesn't need another VC firm11:04: Clearco’s $2B valuation14:43: How Clear Angel offer founders access to a powerful global network, data, and mentorship17:24: How data can help to get through business volatility20:54 How to keep sane as a co-founder of a rocket ship26:17: Being an entrepreneur since the age of 1028:24: The difference between an engineer and a strategy consultant29:38: How was Silicon Valley in 201041:00: How to leverage the geographic diversity of talents and founders43:55: The issue of the distribution system of capital / Why half of the world is overweight and half still starving?48:31: Couples that work58:24: Andrew’s Mana