Gospel Tangents Podcast

What are the 19th century Book of Mormon anachronisms in the Book of Mormon? How can we reconcile them? Brant Gardner shares his perspective. We'll discuss his 2 new books on the Book of Mormon - "Plates of Mormon" & "Engraven Upon Plates, Printed Upon Paper." Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/rTgwNPfBjXA Don’t miss our other conversations with Brant Gardner https://gospeltangents.com/people/brant-gardner Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission. transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission.

Is White & Delightsome racist scripture in the Book of Mormon. Brant Gardner will tackle that in out next conversation. He's the author of 2 books, "Plates of Mormon" & "Engraven Upon Plates, Written Upon Paper." He'll also discuss KJV English (or is it Tyndale English?) & horses in the Book of Mormon. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/4v-mi7HYS7w Don’t miss our other conversations with Brant Gardner! https://gospeltangents.com/people/brant-gardner Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission. transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission.

Brant Gardner has put out not one, but 2 books on the Book of Mormon. The first is titled "Plates of Mormon" & is the "Brant Gardner Translation." He has re-punctuated it and added study helps. The second is a commentary called "Engraven Upon Plates, Written Upon Paper," where he gives even more commentary on the Book of Mormon. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/eSuiEE0fPng Don’t miss our other conversations with Brant Gardner! https://gospeltangents.com/people/brant-gardner Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission. transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission.

Was the movie "Heretic" with sister missionaries & Hugh Grant a good movie or bad movie? Josh Thompson & Rick Bennett share their Heretic movie review impressions, and discuss missionary work. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/ZSv7gDkKN4o Don’t miss our other conversations on Mormon Fundamentalism! https://gospeltangents.com/books/secret-covenants/ Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission. transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission.

How does a married man add another wife to his family? Is his wife involved in dating? What is courtship for polygamists like? Josh Thompson shares his experiences and cultural expectations.. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/Q4wpdBUjheg Don’t miss our other conversations on Mormon Fundamentalism! https://gospeltangents.com/denominations/aub Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission. transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission.

How do Mormon fundamentalists view LDS Temples? Are LDS Temples valid in their eyes? Do they recognize the work done there, or have the temples been defiled? Josh Thompson answers that, and shares more on the Grant Apostasy. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/hhN-xKsUEQc Don’t miss our other conversations on Mormon Fundamentalism! https://gospeltangents.com/denominations/aub Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission. transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission.

How does a Mormon Fundamentalist view the LDS Church? Josh Thompson is the grandson of Rulon Allred, a leader of the Apostolic United Brethren (AUB), the same church as Kody Brown. He'll share his views on polygamy and the LDS Church. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/GO48kf2cCY0 Don’t miss our other conversations on Mormon Fundamentalism! https://gospeltangents.com/denominations/aub Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission. transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission.

What's the Difference between LDS, CoC, & Bickertonite General Conferences? Is it a week long like CoC? Every 6 months like LDS? A combination? Evangelist Josh Gehly will tell us more. Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/mEoCSsCQJlo Don’t miss our other conversations with Josh: https://gospeltangents.com/people/josh-gehly   Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission GT  00:31  Now, do you have what we would call a general conference every--so, in our church, we do it every six months. In the Community of Christ, they do it every two or three years, usually three years.   Josh  00:40  Yeah, every six months.  GT  00:41  Yours is every six months, April and October?  Josh  00:43  Yeah, our spring conference is really our spiritual conference. There's very little business per se. But it's more of a big gathering to bring the saints all together. It's wonderful. And then October is our Business Conference. I mean, there's spiritual things, too. We're always rallying our young people and doing youth activities and just bringing the saints together. But October is our business part of the conference, as far as that goes.  GT  01:09  So, in the LDS Church, it's generally Saturday, Sunday, it's a two-day conference. In the Community of Christ, because they only do it every--well, with COVID screwed up. I think they went four and now they're going to go two, to get back on track. But it was like, eight, nine days, I think.  Josh  01:27  Wow. Awesome.  GT  01:31  Theirs was very interesting, very different from LDS General Conference, in the fact that they would have what would they would call legislation and it was really interesting.  Josh  01:46  Legislation, what is that?  GT  01:47  So, for example President Veazey announced that he was going to retire in two years, at the last conference, last April. And right after the conference, he had some serious health problems. I'm still not totally clear. I'm not clear. I just talked to somebody from their church, and she said, "I don't know, either."  Josh  02:12  Well, that's helpful.  GT  02:14  They're very hush-hush about it, for whatever reason. But at any rate, he announced he was going to retire in two years. He announced that they would discern who the next president would be, who's actually going to be a woman, Stassi Cramm.  Josh  02:27  I saw that.  GT  02:28  So she will be official--I think she's president-designate for the next, what's going to be a year now. She was just called a few weeks ago. She will be officially installed as president next year, next April, I believe. I might have to see if I can go to that again.  Josh  02:46  That'd be amazing.  GT  02:55  What we would call stakes, different mission centers will say, for example, this was really interesting to me. "We want to apologize for our past practices with race." Now, of course, in the LDS Church, we had a ban. The Community of Christ/RLDS Church never actually had a ban, but they did have--well, there were two things. There was one where the Prophet Joseph Smith, III had referred to what we would call a politically incorrect term of Negro. Of course, we don't use that term anymore. And so, people wanted to de-canonize the whole revelation, because basically, he had said, 'we're not going to deny blacks the priesthood, or he would say, negros, but we're not going to be hasty in in ordaining them, because we need to be careful about that.' And so there was a big debate. Should we de-canonize, I think it was their Section 116, if I remember right. There was a debate on should they de-canonize it or not? Then there was another resolution where a different mission center said, "We want to apologize on behalf of racism." The strange thing was, they would have whereas, whereas, whereas; let it be resolved that…this.

This is a rebroadcast of our 2022 interview with attorney & independent historian Mark Tensmeyer who will polygamy skeptics claims. We'll discuss contemporary evidence of Joseph Smith's polygamy. This is the entire interview that has never been published publicy before.  Check out our conversation... Check here for more info on polygamy! https://gospeltangents.com/lds_theology/polygamy/ https://youtu.be/aspT2sfdEhI Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission. Examining Polygamy Skeptics Claims Introduction In a conversation with Denver Snuffer, he claimed that if we threw out all evidence after Joseph Smith died, there is little evidence Joseph practiced polygamy.  While I’m sure that’s an appealing tactic of a defense attorney, is that something a judge would allow?  I’m excited to introduce Mark Tensmeyer, an attorney from Texas and we’ll talk about rules of evidence. What exactly is hearsay evidence? Mark will explain.  Check out our conversation…. Interview GT  01:03  Welcome to Gospel Tangents. I'm excited to have a person who's certified in law to talk about rules of evidence.  Could you go ahead and tell us who you are and where you're calling from? Mark  01:16  I'm Mark Tensmeyer. I'm calling from San Antonio, Texas. GT  01:21  And you are a lawyer by trade? Mark  01:23  I am. Yes. GT  01:25  So, you have a good grasp of law. Now, I know Denver Snuffer is a lawyer, as well. So, we kind of have a little bit of a difference of opinion on whether Joseph was a monogamist or a polygamist. I decided to have Mark on here. We're going to try to settle that and talk about some of the common arguments of the "Joseph was a monogamist" crowd. I'm not going to claim to be unbiased on this. But I am going to try to be as fair as possible. I think you are going to do the same thing right, Mark? Mark  02:03  Right.  I don't think anybody who approaches this is really unbiased, even if they might think they are. I think very few people, if anybody, is truly unbiased. But I like to think that people can come to conclusions based on evidence, regardless of whatever their personal bias might be. I have that much faith in the human intellect. GT  02:30  Alright. One of the things I'd like to start off with, especially given your law background, is, let's talk a little bit about rules of evidence. I know in my previous interview--and I know there are a lot of people that love to email me and say, "Hey, you've never talked to somebody who believes Joseph was a monogamist, which, number one, is not true. I've talked to Denver. I’ve also talked to Jim Vun Cannon. So, if you haven't seen those, go watch them, and you can hear their arguments firsthand. Mark  03:02  Yeah. GT  03:03  I gave him a fair hearing. But I know in Denver's case, and I wanted to talk about him, because he's a lawyer just like you, Mark. Mark  03:12  Right. GT  03:13  One of the things that Denver said that I'd really like to question you on is Denver went to Michael Quinn, and said, "Well, if we cut out all the evidence after Joseph Smith died, June 27, 1844, then there's not very much evidence that Joseph Smith was a polygamist."  Personally, I think, if I was a defense lawyer, that's exactly what I would do. I try to throw out as much evidence, especially, of course, bad evidence that wasn't helping me, as possible. So, I think it's a great defense tactic. I don't know that a judge would necessarily buy that. Can you tell us about that? Mark  03:53  Yes, I can speak to that. First off, the legal rules of evidence ought to be seen in the context of the legal case. I mean, they don't necessarily apply to weighing and balancing evidence, like in history or in any other situation in real life. We have laws that govern what kind of evidence can be considered, but the law doesn't give us a lot of direction on how to weigh ...

Have you studied, Joseph Smith's plural marriage proposals? Dr Christopher Smith finds many commonalities between Emma's marriage proposal and other wives of Joseph Smith, including the secrecy of the proposal. What else is there in these plural marriage proposals? Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/NJcIW2C_9xM Don’t miss our other conversations on Secret Covenants! https://gospeltangents.com/books/secret-covenants/ Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission. transcript to follow Copyright © 2024 Gospel Tangents All Rights Reserved Except for book reviews, no content may be reproduced without written permission.