The Best Ever CRE Show

Pascal Wagner interviews Rod Khleif, a 40-year investor who has owned thousands of units and trained operators responsible for more than 260,000 multifamily doors. Rod breaks down today’s confusing multifamily environment, explaining why conservative underwriting, realistic assumptions, and deep operator due diligence matter more than ever. He shares the biggest mistakes GPs are currently making—from aggressive rent growth assumptions to risky debt structures—and outlines the practical questions every LP must ask before wiring money. Rod also highlights where he sees distress, opportunity, and risk heading into the next cycle. Rod KhleifCurrent role: Founder, Lifetime Cashflow Through Real Estate Investing; Multifamily Investor & EducatorBased in: Sarasota, FloridaSay hi to them at: https://rodslinks.com | https://www.youtube.com/@RodKhleif | https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodkhleif/ Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Amanda Cruise interviews Logan Fullmer, a Texas-based investor who specializes in distressed property acquisition and solving complex title problems. Logan shares his journey from blowing a seven-figure inheritance and getting sober, to rebuilding his life in the oil fields and then parlaying small, risk-adjusted land bets into a multi-division commercial real estate business. He breaks down how he finds “unsellable” properties with tax issues, messy heirship, and judgments, then uses common sense negotiation and targeted legal strategies to unlock huge spreads. Logan also explains how he’s shortened his deal cycle, when he walks away from overly complicated files, and why he’s built a team and education platform to help other investors tackle these “wacky” but lucrative deals at scale. Logan FullmerCurrent role: Commercial real estate investor & founder, distressed property and curative title firm Based in: San Antonio, Texas Say hi to them at: Loganfullmer.com | IG @logan_fullmer | https://event.dpasummit.com/ Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join us at Best Ever Conference 2026! Find more info at: https://www.besteverconference.com/  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr, founder of Unlimited Capital and expert in capital-raising, shares insights from 2025 using his 'four L's' approach: what he loved, learned, lacked, and longed for. He discusses the power of focusing on a single, high-performing debt fund that raised over $24 million, revealing his strategies for operational mastery and record-breaking fundraising. Richard also emphasizes the importance of integrity in contracts and outlines his ambitious goals for 2026, including developing powerful co-GP partnerships and expanding capital efforts.

Bruce Stein, a real estate consultant and former fund manager, shares his journey from aspiring architect to industry expert. He offers crucial advice for new investors, emphasizing the importance of staying localized and focusing on one property type. Bruce illustrates how to identify and sell the most troublesome assets in a portfolio, and discusses strategic uses for 1031 exchanges. He highlights the significance of clear communication with investors, maintaining transparency, and aligning investment strategies with personal goals rather than just cap rates.

Healthcare hiring is driving job growth, cushioning the economy amid setbacks in other sectors. As the aging population boosts demand for medical services, medical offices thrive with stable vacancies and long leases. The multifamily market shows mixed signals, with oversupply in the Sunbelt but strong demand elsewhere. Institutional capital is flowing back into commercial real estate, fueled by positive returns and increased competition expected by 2026. Overall, policy clarity is crucial for sustaining this momentum in the market.

Dani Lynn Robison, the dynamic co-founder and CEO of Freedom Family Investments, shares her journey from Ohio's turnkey rentals to establishing a robust real estate empire. She reveals the challenges that led her to vertically integrate all aspects of her business, from renovations to capital raising. Dani discusses her strategy for hiring 'Ferrari-level' leaders and ensuring investor satisfaction, even in tough times. Plus, she explores emerging opportunities in the Sun Belt regions—perfect advice for aspiring investors!

In this engaging discussion, Andrew Cushman, founder of Vantage Point Acquisitions, shares insights from his multifamily investment journey. He explains why he built an in-house operations team instead of typical partnerships, emphasizing the importance of operational control. Andrew discusses the pitfalls of ego-driven 10x scaling and the risk management lessons learned from extreme skiing. He also highlights alternative investment opportunities like laundromats, exploring modernization strategies and the current lending environment's impact on deal flows.

Soren Godbersen, a real estate executive with nearly a decade of experience at EquityMultiple and now VP at Lightstone Direct, discusses the evolution of real estate crowdfunding. He shares insights on the importance of understanding platform incentives for LPs and highlights the differences between aggregator platforms and vertically integrated operators. Soren also delves into due diligence practices and red flags to watch for, emphasizing the significance of asset class selection. Tune in for a deep dive into tailoring investment strategies for today's market!

Scott Lurie, founder of F Street Group and The Hard Money Co., shares his journey from house flipping to managing over $700M in assets. He reveals how he navigated the 2008 crash by focusing on discipline and conservative leverage, resulting in savvy purchases like a 410-unit acquisition for just $9K per door. Scott dives into the importance of transparency in raising capital, building investor trust, and his strategic shift toward value-add industrial and multifamily developments. He also emphasizes the need for new investors to pick a niche and commit to long-term goals.

Richard McGirr, Founder of Unlimited Capital and a marketing strategist, reveals the power of storytelling in capturing investor interest. He explains how facts alone fail to persuade, while personal narratives resonate deeply. Sharing his own entrepreneurial journey, including a pivotal failed webinar, he introduces Russell Brunson's Epiphany Bridge script, linking it to the Hero’s Journey framework. Richard emphasizes the importance of defining one's 'why' and overcoming false beliefs to enhance investor connections and boost conversions.