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Michael Chovan-Dalton
Real Photo Show with Michael Chovan-Dalton is a podcast about photographers and the related arts.
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Jul 18, 2022 • 25min
Riley Goodman | From Yonder Wooded Hill
Riley Goodman and Michael Chovan-Dalton talk about Riley’s first monograph, From Yonder Wooded Hill published by Fall Line Press.
YouTube link for artist presentation: https://youtu.be/iZTxlEnHlzU?t=1140
_From Yonder Wooded Hill _investigates what we choose to remember versus what chooses to remember us. Based in the Patapsco River Valley of Maryland and expanding to his ancestral West Virginia and North Carolina, Riley Goodman brings to life the customs and legends on which he was raised to weave a tale as old as the hills.
Riley Goodman, raised in the Patapsco River Valley of Maryland, inquires folklore, American history, and humankind’s relation to the environments they inhabit in an effort to understand what endures, and how this manifests through the passage of time. Goodman juxtaposes the visual interpretation of researched, often folk-based, storytelling with archival imagery and material from his personal collections of artifact and ephemera. When combined, the work depicts a narrative that rather than noting a specific period, creates an ever-occurring understanding of history. By establishing this crafted world, Goodman invites the viewer to question tenets of authenticity, leaving the idea of ‘historical truth’ in an undisclosed middle ground.
https://www.rileycgoodman.com
https://www.falllinepress.com/from-yonder-wooded-hill
Photo Show Live is sponsored by Charcoal Book Club
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Jun 27, 2022 • 0sec
Rich-Joseph Facun | Photo Show Live
Rich-Joseph and Michael Chovan-Dalton talk about how he accidentally became a photographer and his two new books, Black Diamonds pub by Fall Line Press and Little Cities pub by Little Oak Press.
See the slideshow of Rich-Joseph's work at: https://youtu.be/OcYXvfkshT8
https://facun.com
Photo Show Live is sponsored by Charcoal Book Club
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Rich-Joseph Facun is a photographer of Indigenous Mexican and Filipino descent. His work aims to offer an authentic look into endangered, bygone, and fringe cultures—those transitions in time where places fade but people persist.
The exploration of place, community and cultural identity present themselves as a common denominator in both his life and photographic endeavors.
Before finding “home” in the Appalachian Foothills of southeast Ohio, Facun roamed the globe for 15 years working as a photojournalist. During that time he was sent on assignment to over a dozen countries, and for three of those years he was based in the United Arab Emirates.
His photography has been commissioned by various publications, including NPR, The Atlantic, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, ProPublica, AARP, The Associated Press, Reuters, Vox, Adweek, Education Week, The Chronicle of Higher Education, The FADER, Frank 151, Topic, The Guardian (UK), The National (UAE), Telerama (France), The Globe and Mail (Canada) and Sueddeutsche Zeitung (Germany), among others.
Additionally, Facun’s work has been recognized by Photolucida’s Critical Mass, CNN, Juxtapoz, British Journal of Photography, The Washington Post, Feature Shoot, It’s Nice That, The Image Deconstructed, The Photo Brigade, Looking At Appalachia, and Pictures of the Year International.
In 2021 his first monograph Black Diamonds was released by Fall Line Press. The work is a visual exploration of the former coal mining boom towns of SE Ohio, Appalachia. Subsequently, it was highlighted by Charcoal Book Club as their “Book-Of-The-Month.” Black Diamonds is also part of the permanent collection at the Frederick and Kazuko Harris Fine Arts Library and the Amon Carter Museum of American Art’s Research Library.
Presently, Facun is in the process of producing his next monograph Little Cities, slated to be released in Autumn 2022 by Little Oak Press. The work examines how both Indigenous peoples and descendants of settler colonialists inhabited and utilized the land around them.
Photo Show Live is a production of Real Photo Show.
©2022 Real Photo Show

May 20, 2022 • 52min
Lois Conner | Flat Earth & Long Photos
Photographer and educator, Lois Conner and I talk about her amazing life in photography, her many influences, including working at the United Nations, love of art history, and of course, her work, including Lois' most recent show, Flat Earth. It was such a pleasure to have Lois on as my former thesis instructor, friend, and 150th guest on the show. This also marks that last regular episode for a while as I contemplate the future of the show and plan for more event based episodes with the JKC Gallery.
https://www.loisconner.net
https://www.instagram.com/loistrueblue/
This episode is sponsored by the Charcoal Book Club, a monthly subscription service for photobook enthusiasts. Working with the most respected names in contemporary photography, Charcoal selects and delivers essential photobooks to a worldwide community of collectors. Each month, members receive a signed, first-edition monograph and an exclusive print to add to their collections.
www.charcoalbookclub.com
The New York-based photographer Lois Conner has been travelling the world with 7x17” banquet camera nearly half a century. Through the elongated format of her work she has explored the landscape and the temper of our times; her art is both contemporary and, due to her vision, ‘a long view’ that captures the eternal in the moment, timeless. Conner’s work is that of the artist-artisan: every aspect of her art involves the hand made combined with demanding techniques of platinum printing. In recent years she has employed digital technologies to expand the format of her work, embracing landscapes from the natural to the man-made. Her annual trips to China since 1984 have allowed her to follow the transformation of the People’s Republic and to share her unique understanding of the country’s changing urban and rural mien, as well as the vistas that inspired the country’s unique culture.
Conner has been based in New York City since 1971, where she worked for the United Nations until 1984. During that time she was awarded a Bachelor in Fine Arts (photography) from the Pratt Institute and a Master’s degree from Yale University. Conner has also taught photography since, including over a decade as professor of photography at Yale University.

May 7, 2022 • 48min
CatchLight Summit | State of Photography
Part 2 of 2 of my conversations with presenters at the CatchLight Visual Storytelling Summit April 19-20, 2022 at the Institute of Contemporary Art San Francisco. In this episode I speak with Dr. Tara Pixley. Tara and I talk about her presentation with Daniella Zalcman on the state of photography in 2022. We discuss the report and its findings, including the under-representation of historically marginalized communities. We also talk about what is changing and what may come next to help address the findings in the report. Lastly, Tara speaks about what it's like to both be an active professional and an educator in visual journalism.
The full report and panel presentation can be found here: https://player.catchlight.io/0oyd/1/state-of-photography-cover
This episode covers the following panel:
STATE OF PHOTOGRAPHY, BEHIND THE NUMBERS: SURVIVAL IN A SHIFTING INDUSTRY
As visuals become an increasingly important part of the global media diet, economic precarity has become commonplace for many photographers in the digital age—a key finding of both the State of Photo 2022 Report and the Visual Storyteller Field Survey, which led to the creation of the Photo Bill of Rights. What is behind this disparity, and how will image makers—including those in underrepresented groups—survive? Tara Pixley—an award-winning visual journalist, professor and co-founder of Authority Collective, an organization resourcing and amplifying women/nonbinary photographers of color—discusses these issues with CatchLight Global Fellow Daniella Zalcman, an multiple grantee documentary photographer and founder of Women Photograph, an organization which confronts the gender imbalance and inequities rampant in the photo industry.
WHAT IS IT LIKE TO BE A PHOTOGRAPHER IN 2022?
THIS IS THE STATE OF PHOTOGRAPHY REPORT.
By Tara Pixley, Martin Smith-Rodden, David Campbell & Adrian Hadland
The State of Photography represents the first international study of photographers that specifically looks to understand the experiences of imagemakers from historically marginalized communities in greater depth. You can scroll through the report below or download a PDF in the link. Made possible by funding from CatchLight and the Knight Foundation
This episode is sponsored by the Charcoal Book Club, a monthly subscription service for photobook enthusiasts. Working with the most respected names in contemporary photography, Charcoal selects and delivers essential photobooks to a worldwide community of collectors. Each month, members receive a signed, first-edition monograph and an exclusive print to add to their collections.
www.charcoalbookclub.com
Tara Pixley is a visual journalist, strategic storytelling consultant and professor based in Los Angeles, with an MFA in Photography, a Ph.D. in Communication and two decades of experience as a media producer and editor for editorial, nonprofit and commercial organizations.
Tara's documentary film work has screened internationally and my award-winning writing on media has been published widely in magazines, academic journals and news media trade journals. I am a 2021 IWMF NextGen Fellow, a 2020 awardee of the World Press Photo Solutions Visual Journalism Initiative and was a 2016 Visiting Fellow at the Nieman Foundation for Journalism of Harvard University, researching inequities in the photojournalism industry.
Tara is co-Founder and Board Member of Authority Collective, an organization dedicated to building community and opportunity for women/nonbinary photographers of color.
https://www.tarapixley.com

Apr 27, 2022 • 0sec
Catchlight Summit | Who Tells the Story
Part 1 of 2 of my conversations with presenters at the CatchLight Visual Storytelling Summit April 19-20, 2022 at the Institute of Contemporary Art San Francisco. In part 1 I speak with Mabel Jiménez and Josué Rivas about their then upcoming presentation on who gets to tell the story and how the story is made. We preview the talk and also speak about their own work and experiences in the documentary storytelling world.
The summit was recorded and will be posted at https://www.catchlight.io/2022-visual-storytelling-summit
This episode covers the following panel:
Photojournalism’s Ethical Question: Who Gets to Tell a Community’s Story? With Mabel Jiménez x Felix Uribe x Yesica Prado x Josué Rivas
CatchLight Local Fellows Yesica Prado and Felix Uribe alongside CatchLight Local California Visual Desk Editor Mabel Jiménez and CatchLight Global Fellow Josué Rivas dive into the nuances of how to work ethically and collaboratively in communities, particularly those that are disproportionately impacted by crisis. Jiménez will also discuss her work as an SFAC Artist in Residence at SF’s COVID Command Center, which provided unique access to the city’s disaster service workers, COVID-19 response/prevention efforts and mutual aid during the crisis—enabling her to document a crisis, up close. The conversation will be moderated by CatchLight Global Fellow, Josué Rivas—Founder of INDÍGENA, Standing Strong Project, and Co-Founder of Indigenous Photograph.
This episode is sponsored by the Charcoal Book Club, a monthly subscription service for photobook enthusiasts. Working with the most respected names in contemporary photography, Charcoal selects and delivers essential photobooks to a worldwide community of collectors. Each month, members receive a signed, first-edition monograph and an exclusive print to add to their collections.
www.charcoalbookclub.com
Mabel Jiménez (pronouns she/her) is an independent photographer and reporter based in San Francisco. Being raised in Tijuana, 15 minutes from the Mexico/U.S. border, themes of biculturalism and immigration have influenced her photographic and journalistic work. She has documented San Francisco’s Latino community since 2008 and is the former Photo Editor for El Tecolote bilingual newspaper, where she continues as a regular contributor. During her seven-year tenure in the position, she created, produced and curated a yearly group photography exhibition showcasing the newspaper’s best photojournalism.
https://www.mabeljimenez.com
Josué Rivas HE (Mexica/Otomi) is a creative director, visual storyteller, and educator working at the intersection of art, journalism, and social justice. His work aims to challenge the mainstream narrative about Indigenous peoples, build awareness about issues affecting Native communities across Turtle Island, and be a visual messenger for those in the shadows of our society. He is a 2017 Magnum Foundation Photography and Social Justice Fellow, founder of the Standing Strong Project, co-founder of Natives Photograph and winner of the 2018 FotoEvidence Book Award with World Press Photo.
https://www.josuerivasfoto.com

Mar 30, 2022 • 52min
Alanna Airitam | Putting Flowers Back In The Ground
Photographer Alanna Airitam and I have a fabulous conversation about how she left the corporate world, taught herself photography, and how it may have saved her life. We talk about Alanna's breakout work, The Golden Age, and the process by which anger, frustration, and responding to injustice inspires her to make beautiful and important imagery.
The Golden Age is showing at the Center for Creative Photography starting April 2022. Link below.
https://www.alannaairitam.com
https://www.instagram.com/alannaairitam/
https://ccp.arizona.edu/events/3696-alanna-airitam-golden-age
This episode is sponsored by the Charcoal Book Club, a monthly subscription service for photobook enthusiasts. Working with the most respected names in contemporary photography, Charcoal selects and delivers essential photobooks to a worldwide community of collectors. Each month, members receive a signed, first-edition monograph and an exclusive print to add to their collections.
www.charcoalbookclub.com
Questioning generalized stereotypes and the lack of fair representation of Black people in art spaces has led photographer Alanna Airitam to research critical historical omissions and how those contrived narratives represent and influence succeeding generations. Her portraits, self-portraits, and vanitas still life photography in series such as The Golden Age, Crossroads, White Privilege, Colonized Foods, Ghosts, and individual works such as Take a Look Inside and How to Make a Country ask the viewer to question the stories of history and heritage we were taught to believe.
Alanna was named on the 2021 Silver List as one of 47 exciting contemporary photographers to follow. She is a 2020 San Diego Art Prize winner and recipient of the 2020 Michael Reichmann Project Grant Award. Her photographs have been exhibited at Catherine Edelman Gallery in Chicago, Art Miami with Catherine Edelman, San Diego Art Institute, Pentimenti Gallery in Philadelphia, Colorado Photographic Arts Center in Denver, and Candela Gallery in Richmond, Virginia. Her work has been acquired for the Virginia Museum of Fine Art’s collection and three prints from The Golden Age were recently added to the Center for Creative Photography’s permanent collection. Airitam has been elected Board Member and led workshops and mentorships for Oakwood Arts and a Board Member for Medium Photo she was the Juror of the 2021 Black Photographers Scholarship Program for Medium Photo, and a Curator/Juror for the MFA Photography Reviews. Born in Queens, New York, Airitam now resides in Tucson, Arizona.

Feb 28, 2022 • 43min
Rick Schatzberg | The Boys
Photographer Rick Schatzberg and I talk about his book, The Boys published by powerHouse Books. It's a book about mortality, vulnerability, and resilience. It reminisces about the lives of 14 men now in their 60's who all grew up as friends on Long Island, including Rick, and the project started when two of the men died within a year of each other.
https://rickschatzberg.com
This episode is sponsored by the Charcoal Book Club, a monthly subscription service for photobook enthusiasts. Working with the most respected names in contemporary photography, Charcoal selects and delivers essential photobooks to a worldwide community of collectors. Each month, members receive a signed, first-edition monograph and an exclusive print to add to their collections.
www.charcoalbookclub.com
Rick Schatzberg s a photographer living and making work in Brooklyn, New York and Norfolk, Connecticut. He received his MFA in Photography from the University of Hartford in 2018. Rick holds a degree from Columbia University in Anthropology (1978), played French horn with Cecil Taylor’s jazz ensemble in 1970s, and was a business executive and entrepreneur in the New York metropolitan area for many years. In 2015 he completed a one-year certificate program at the International Center of Photography. In the same year, his first monograph, Twenty Two North (self-published), was awarded first prize at Australia’s Ballarat Foto International Biennale. His second monograph, The Boys, was published in 2020 by powerHouse Books.

Feb 12, 2022 • 0sec
Chrystofer Davis | Nork, NJ
Photographer, Chrystofer Davis and I talk about the different decisions and influences in his life that lead him to photography and how he had to diverge from the family tradition of going into medicine. We also talk about the mission he is on to represent Newark, New Jersey in a way that shows the city is more than what we get reported by the media and Chrystofer previews a new book that he is working on.
https://www.chrysdavis.co
https://www.instagram.com/dolo_foto
https://twitter.com/Dolo_Foto/
This episode is sponsored by the Charcoal Book Club, a monthly subscription service for photobook enthusiasts. Working with the most respected names in contemporary photography, Charcoal selects and delivers essential photobooks to a worldwide community of collectors. Each month, members receive a signed, first-edition monograph and an exclusive print to add to their collections.
www.charcoalbookclub.com
Chrystofer Davis is a Newark, NJ native and 11-year fine art photographer, teaching artist, & filmmaker, whose work is influenced by street/portrait photography and contemporary culture.
During the course of Chrystofer's career he has worked, collaborated, and showcased with world-renowned companies and celebrities, in addition to hosting seminars and lectures. These feats include Michelle Obama, New York Magazine, Leica Camera, Puma, Urban Outfitters, Daymond John of Shark Tank, MTV, Vogue Italia, Rutgers University, and B&H, to name a few.
Peerspace quoted him as one of “The 5 Best Fine Art Photographers in Newark”. His works are currently archived in prominent institutions such as The Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture, The Newark Public Library, The Thomas J. Watson Library at The Metropolitan Museum of Art, and The Bronx Museum. As a teaching artist, he is currently using his expertise to facilitate workshops to show the importance of keeping film and developing alive; as well as documenting the many faces and architecture of Newark, NJ.

Jan 29, 2022 • 46min
Marble Hill Camera Club | Patrice Helmar & John M. O'Toole
Patrice Helmar and John O'Toole join me to talk about the Marble Hill Camera Club entering its sixth year. When the pandemic hit Patrice had to figure out how to keep the much beloved photography open mic night going. In collaboration with John M. O'Toole of Oranbeg Press, they landed on shorter virtual evenings with free e-zines for every guest available to everyone. We talk about the past, present, and future of MHCC and the importance of collaboration and generosity when providing platforms for others.
https://www.marblehillcameraclub.com
https://oranbegpress.com
https://patricehelmar.com
https://johnmotoole.com
This episode is sponsored by the Charcoal Book Club, a monthly subscription service for photobook enthusiasts. Working with the most respected names in contemporary photography, Charcoal selects and delivers essential photobooks to a worldwide community of collectors. Each month, members receive a signed, first-edition monograph and an exclusive print to add to their collections.
www.charcoalbookclub.com
Patrice Aphrodite Helmar is an artist who was born in Juneau, Alaska. She worked in her father's small town camera shop and darkroom growing up, and continues to work in photography. Her work has been shown at the Jewish Museum, Ortega Y Gasset Projects, Gaa Gallery, and the National Museum of Iceland as well as other spaces. Helmar is currently a Visiting Associate Professor at the Pratt Institute and living and working in Juneau, Alaska and New York, NY.
John M. O’Toole was born in Boston, MA and lives and works in Brooklyn, NY. A photographer, writer, bookmaker, and founder of Oranbeg Press, his work explores the concept of familial roots through the lens of his Irish heritage.
He received his BFA from Syracuse University in 2011 and received his MFA from the Image text program at Ithaca College in 2018 as the inaugural class of the program.

Jan 11, 2022 • 42min
Tony Chirinos | The Precipice
I catch up with photographer and professor, Tony Chirinos about his first monograph, The Precipice published by Gnomic Book.
https://www.tonychirinos.com
https://gnomicbook.com/collections/books/products/the-precipice
This episode is sponsored by the Charcoal Book Club, a monthly subscription service for photobook enthusiasts. Working with the most respected names in contemporary photography, Charcoal selects and delivers essential photobooks to a worldwide community of collectors. Each month, members receive a signed, first-edition monograph and an exclusive print to add to their collections.
www.charcoalbookclub.com
From Gnomic Book: The Precipice is the summation of nearly two decades spent working as a biomedical photographer in Miami. Chirinos threads the needle between the sometimes delicate, often brutal world of surgical intervention. The book is separated into three main bodies: surgical photographs of living subjects; vibrant typologies of exquisitely photographed tools; and the journey to the afterlife. The Precipice draws back the curtain to a world which most of us never see, where human fragility and resilience coexist in an uneasy equilibrium.
Featuring essays by Michelle Otero and Eugenie Shinkle, and a poem by Claudia Isidron, The Precipice is simultaneously lyrical and bleak, a celebration of life and an unflinching observation of what follows.