
Two Sides of FI
Two lifelong friends document and share their personal journey as they seek to become financially independent and retire early (FIRE). One achieves his FIRE goal in 2020 during a global pandemic, inspiring the other to play catch-up. Whether you are new to the FIRE movement, already on your FIRE journey, or have retired early, there’s something here for you. Go beyond the numbers and get the personal stories as experienced by Eric and Jason.
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Oct 27, 2024 • 47min
Does Retirement = Happiness?
What happens when retirement doesn’t bring the joy you expected? The conversation dives into the bittersweet surprises of early retirement, where boredom and disappointment can creep in. Personal experiences highlight the importance of mindful travel and quality time with loved ones. They discuss the identity shifts and emotional complexities that come with newfound freedom. Structured planning emerges as key to happiness, while lighthearted moments about travel styles add humor to the deep reflections on life's transitions.

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Sep 22, 2024 • 42min
Empty Nest, New Challenges: What’s Next After Early Retirement?
The hosts candidly discuss the emotional rollercoaster of becoming empty nesters after early retirement. They reflect on the bittersweet mix of newfound freedom and the poignant sense of loss as kids leave home. Navigating identity shifts becomes a central theme, as they explore redefining their purpose beyond parenting and careers. Personal anecdotes highlight the search for fulfillment through new hobbies and volunteering. The importance of social connections and humor in this transformative phase adds a relatable touch to their journey.

Aug 26, 2024 • 43min
Financial Independence at 50 (Finally!)
Eric, who achieved financial independence at 50, and Laura, a research scientist embracing the FIRE movement, share their inspiring journey. They discuss their flexible approach to retirement planning and the emotional challenges that come with shifting goals. Listen in as they cover vital topics like their investment strategies, health insurance through ICHRA, and the importance of family experiences, illustrated by a memorable fishing trip. Their candid insights reveal what true financial independence looks like and how to balance life’s pleasures with savvy planning.

Aug 18, 2024 • 52min
He Earned a Million Dollars Trading This Option Strategy
Karsten "Big ERN" Jeske, a successful trader earning $80,000 annually, shares his insights on a straightforward SPX options trading strategy. He breaks down maximizing returns with S&P 500 options, likening it to casino dynamics for market liquidity. The discussion also delves into the challenges of one-day option trades, emphasizing timing and risk management. Karsten explains the evolving role of stop orders in trading and reflects on how strategic trading can energize paths to financial independence and early retirement.

Aug 4, 2024 • 43min
Our 80/20 Rules for Early Retirement: How We Did It
Explore the transformative journey to early retirement through the lens of the 80/20 rule. Discover pivotal life decisions that shaped strategic, risk-taking pathways towards financial independence. The hosts share insights on navigating traditional employment and embracing self-directed careers. They reflect on critical conversations that sparked career shifts and highlight the balance between growth and financial planning. Misconceptions about high salaries and success are debunked, revealing the true paths to autonomy and informed financial choices.

Jul 21, 2024 • 47min
Checking In: Year One of Early Retirement
A year later, Jason and Eric check in with their friend Erik, who retired early at 49 while his wife continues to work. In this follow-up episode, we find out how things are going and what important lessons he learned during his first year of early retirement.
Show notes and our earlier chat with Erik - https://twosidesoffi.com/erik

Jun 30, 2024 • 43min
Four Years Later: What I Wish I Knew Before Retiring Early
In this conversation, Jason, a retiree who stepped away from work at 47, shares invaluable insights gained over four years of early retirement. He discusses the evolution of his financial mindset, moving from strict budgeting to a more balanced approach to spending. Jason touches on the complexities of healthcare planning, the emotional journey of self-discovery, and the shifts in personal relationships post-retirement. He also emphasizes the importance of building genuine connections and reflects on the challenges of maintaining community outside of work.

May 22, 2024 • 40min
Retired Early? Here’s How to Pay Yourself
In this conversation, Eric, a savvy early retiree and finance enthusiast, shares how he utilizes a free online tool to strategically manage retirement finances. They delve into variable withdrawal strategies, effectively balancing cash flow through investments, and the significance of tracking financial health. The duo discusses navigating market conditions for safe withdrawal rates and the psychological aspects of spending in retirement. With practical insights and a touch of humor, Eric's tips could be a game-changer for anyone looking to enjoy their golden years worry-free.

May 5, 2024 • 45min
When is Enough, Enough? Working After Financial Independence
In this engaging discussion, Jason, who balances a part-time job with his pursuit of passion, and Lorri, also embracing post-financial independence work, share their insights. They explore the joys of 'barista fire'—working for enjoyment rather than necessity. The conversation also delves into the value of time, the pleasure of turning hobbies into income, and how charitable pursuits enrich their lives. Listeners will find inspiration in their reflections on personal fulfillment and the social connections formed through passion projects.

Apr 21, 2024 • 38min
Unexpected Reactions to My Early Retirement
Contempt, concern, surprise, envy, admiration, and support; just a few of the reactions Laura received when she announced she was retiring early, closing her biomedical research laboratory, and beginning a new phase of life beyond work. Some reactions were expected and some surprised her. In this episode, Eric and Laura unpack these interactions and chart their next steps as they prepare to leave work and step into early retirement.
Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/unexpected
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