Hustle & Flowchart: Mastering Business & Enjoying the Journey

George Bryant joins us today, for a long awaited show and today we are talking about how to build better relationships with your customers and lists, and essentially how to make the people in your ecosystem love you and be excited to hear from you, which in turn will bring you profitable results. George has worked with and co-owned so many big brands, such as Adidas and Onit, has been a New York Times best-selling author, and is basically someone who is getting it all done and after listening to this episode you’ll understand why. George is also the type of guy who will walk into a high powered meeting with a blue mohawk and own the room. He covers a lot of ground in this show, and there’s a boatload of information you will be happy you took in.  If this episode has you itching for more information about customer acquisition and balance between health, happiness, and making an impact on the world, be sure to check out what Josh Bartlett adds to the discussion as well as the show we mentioned with Aaron Fletcher. “The best protective business mechanism that you’ll ever have is giving everything away for free because nobody buys the information, they buy access and accountability based on the best relationship.” - George Bryant Some Topics We Discussed Include: How George is very intentional with consuming only 30 minutes of content a week The four steps of the customer journey Why you are retargeting all wrong How to think like Apple and Nike Why getting noticed on Tik Tok is not as hard as you think The approach that got a 61% recovery of cart abandonment  The new paradigm of marketing, post-COVID and how you need to pivot for the long term The entrepreneurial shift from consumption to creating And much, much more! Resources From George Bryant: Mind of George References and Links Mentioned: George’s Facebook group - Relationships Beat Algorithms Are you ready to be EPIC with us?! Then grab our EGP Letter here! FlowchartGroup.com - be sure to hop in our Facebook group to chat with us, our other amazing guests that we’ve had on the show, and fellow entrepreneurs! This episode is sponsored by Easy Webinar, be sure to check them out as well. Drunken Podcast With Aaron Fletcher: Building Profitable Memberships How To Build A Solid Team And Create Rabid Fan Customers - Josh Bartlett

If you did not already know this already, after to today’s show with Kim Krause Schwalm, you will definitely have the know-how to hire the best of the best copywriters, what to look for, how to compensate them in other ways so that you are creating a win-win partnership and how to structure deals with them. Kim has got an insane track record when it comes to copywriting and beating out a lot of the greats. She tells us the story of all the controls that were winning back in the day and how she beat out the best winning sales letter as a junior copywriter and broke the glass ceiling when she became the first female copywriter to ever get a Boardroom control. Even if you have some copywriting experience yourself, you know it’s not that easy to get the right person for the job, especially as sometimes we think no one will write the copy as well as us, especially in our voice.  This show changed our thinking regarding hiring a copywriter, especially with the variety of ways to partner with someone who can support you over the long term. As business owners, we have enough things to do, so it makes sense and even though there’s a ton of value in learning copy yourself, it’s probably not always the smartest move to write your own copy for your own products. We will likely bring Kim back for round two, in order to dive into some deeper principles with copywriting skills. She also gave us some amazing resources as well so check it out, and once you’re done be sure to give a listen to our shows with Anik Singal and Justin Goff for more copywriting tactics.  “It’s not so much you want to improve your copy, you want to improve your sales results. Whatever it is you are currently using is not getting it done.” - Kim Krause Schwalm Some Topics We Discussed Include: What to expect when hiring a copywriter Different ways you can price out the work for a win-win The beauty of some old school marketing techniques Why first is not always best  How to find someone who writes in your voice but still writes to convert What to do when your copywriter falls off the grid How and when to offer incentives, royalty deals, and flat fees Why you may want to consider hiring a copy chief And much, much more! Resources From Kim Krause Schwalm: KimSchwalm.com References and Links Mentioned: Breakthrough Advertising by Eugene Schwartz Scientific Advertising and My Life in Advertising by Claude Hopkins Read This Or Die Abbey Woodcock’s Codex training The Awai Pricing Guide for web copywriters Are you ready to be EPIC with us?! Then grab our EGP Letter here! FlowchartGroup.com - be sure to hop in our Facebook group to chat with us, our other amazing guests that we’ve had on the show, and fellow entrepreneurs! Check out these special deals for our listeners from our sponsors, LinkedIn Marketing Solutions and Easy Webinar.   This episode is sponsored by our go-to SEO research tool, Ahrefs.com, by Easy Webinar and Gina Horkey’s Podcast Production School. This episode is sponsored by Easy Webinar, be sure to check them out as well. Purpose Driven Copywriting - Anik Singal Focusing On Emotional Triggers To Write The Best Copy - Justin Goff

Today’s show with Joey Gilkey is an absolute masterclass of his process as to how he is selling mega contracts to all sorts of companies. Joey’s business deals with high ticket sales and he’s got a system, processes, and playbooks for everything in the business. At one point, there’s got to be 8-9 of his core processes that you will be able to swipe, and you’re going to learn how to be better at sales, retention, and prospecting no matter what model you are in.  There’s so much gold in this episode, that at one point we actually ran out of paper as we were taking so many notes ourselves. He also chats about why he focuses on retention, the 3 D’s for success, and how to dial in to find your ideal client. When you are done getting sales ideas from Joey, be sure to check out our shows with Steve Sims and Robert Stanley for additional ideas on how to get noticed and generating more leads for your business. “The way I look at pricing is, the bigger the problem you can solve for a very specific type of person, the more you can charge. What comes with expertise is typically money. Get really dialed in who you serve and you will see that you provide a bigger value which will give you more confidence to increase your prices.” - Joey Gilkey Some Topics We Discussed Include: How an old lunchbox led to a huge new client The hierarchy of the “Core Four” to get your agency to the highest level possible How to remove yourself from the connotation of sales being sleazy Tactics for prospecting your ideal clients How to get over the fear of charging what you are worth The Pipeline, Conversion & Economics model of growth Acquisition vs. retention and why Joey focuses on the latter And much, much more! Resources From Joey Gilkey: JoeyGilkey.com Tribe Outbound References and Links Mentioned: The Challenger Customer by Brent Adamson The Go-Giver by Bob Burg ABM is B2B by Sangram Vajre The Business of Expertise by David C. Baker How to Get A Meeting With Anyone by Stu Heinecke  Are you ready to be EPIC with us?! Then grab our EGP Letter here! FlowchartGroup.com - be sure to hop in our Facebook group to chat with us, our other amazing guests that we’ve had on the show, and fellow entrepreneurs! Today’s show is sponsored by Easy Webinar.   How To Make Impossible Things Happen - Steve Sims How To Create A Business Driving Sales Leads - Robert Stanley

Tech gremlins aside, we finally got done with our awesome episode with today’s guest, Gabby Bernstein. It was a great conversation, and Gabby’s energy is amazing. We chat about her most recent book which is all about how to stay in that positivity mode. She has written a total of eight books and her latest book is called Super Attractor: Methods for Manifesting a Life Beyond Your Wildest Dreams. She’s a NY Times best-selling author who has worked with Oprah and Dr. Wayne Dyer and it was a massive honor to have her on the show. Gabby gave us some very practical tools to work through some tough stuff that we are all going through in our personal lives, especially now that we are in this new world. Especially lately, you really need to enjoy the journey, stop focusing on the hustle and grind and enjoy the hard parts and find the benefits of the pain. We chat about some of the methods Gabby uses to help us shift our brains when you are not enjoying the work to shift ourselves back into that place of peace. She also talks about what she refers to as her “Rage on the Page” method and the benefits of listening to a specific playlist while writing. When you’re done listening, be sure to check out our other shows with Chris Krimitsos and Susie Moore and we talk more about how to break down barriers that are limiting your potential. “Fear really runs our lives. Every choice we make and every experience we have is based on fearful experiences from our history that have defined who we are today. ” - Gabby Bernstein Some Topics We Discussed Include: How to Gabby was able to bring herself back from hitting rock bottom to getting on Oprah The ‘Choose Again Method’, a simple tool to get you out of your fear-based story Some example conversations to have (with yourself) to get your brain on the right track The masterful way of journaling and combining “rage on the page” techniques How to access some of the hidden information in your brain Meditation and breathing techniques to let go of tension Gabby’s super successful, Instagram Live series which is getting people all over the world amazing results And much, much more! Resources From Gabby Bernstein: GabbyBertstein.com Dear Gabby on IG-TV Gabby Bernstein on Instagram Super Attractor, The Judgment Detox & The Universe Has Your Back books by Gabby Bernstein References and Links Mentioned: No Drama Discipline by Dan Siegel Waking The Tiger by Peter Levine Healing Back Pain: The Mind-Body Connection by Dr. John Sarno Rage on the Page playlist on Spotify Are you ready to be EPIC with us?! Then grab our EGP Letter here! FlowchartGroup.com - it’s popping lately! Be sure to join us in our Facebook group to chat with us, our other amazing guests that we’ve had on the show, and fellow entrepreneurs This episode is sponsored by Easy Webinar, be sure to check them out as well. Stop Seeking Approval And Attain True Self-Confidence - Susie Moore Get Over Your Fear of Failure In 7 simple Steps - Chris Krimitsos

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On today’s show, we are chatting with Chris Ross who gave us a total masterclass on sales which is pure gold. Chris is a fellow podcaster and runs TCR Consulting Agency and on today’s show, he does a deep dive into the conversations he has with his potential clients. He really gets into the mental game of sales and the mindset you need to have to approach it for success. He also shared with us his daily routine and his goal to improve each and every day by 1% as well as how to handle objections. It’s less about scripting and more about how your brain needs to be when entering into the conversation. Chris also has a podcast, aptly name the Win-Win Effect and on that show, you will learn sales at a level you most likely have never heard before, without all the questionable methods but selling with a giving, connecting, and problem-solving intention. You will definitely have some mind shifts and a-ha moments about selling while listening in, so check this one out. And once you are done, be sure to check out the show we referred to with Chris Voss (not to be confused with our guest) and with Marshall Sylver for even more success traits for being a great salesperson.  “If you are really struggling with your sales, and if you want to experience what it feels like to have zero buyer’s remorse, ask them “What, When, Why, How” questions.” - Chris Ross Some Topics We Discussed Include: Chris’ method to make himself 1% better on a daily basis The importance of taking notes (and not on your phone) Some great examples of conversations when dealing with objections as well as getting your potential clients into the right frame of mind The international speaker who changed Chris’s life around Starting your day off right, without being overwhelmed by social media, and most importantly, being tied to your phone Examples of how some well-known people learn from their failures and how you can put this same thing into practice to improve How to set up the conversation right from the start to let them know you are working on their behalf Give us a shout at info@evergreenprofits.com if you have an idea for an awesome name we can attribute to all of our awesome listeners (because HustleAndFlowcharters is way too long) And much, much more! Resources From Chris Ross: Win-Win Podcast Chris Ross on Instagram TCR Consulting Agency Chris Ross Official References and Links Mentioned: Curtis Jackson: Hustle Harder, Hustle Smarter by 50 Cent Alter Ego Effect by Todd Herman The 50th Law by Robert Greene & 50 Cent Are you ready to be EPIC with us?! Then grab our EGP Letter here FlowchartGroup.com - be sure to hop in our Facebook group to chat with us, our other amazing guests that we’ve had on the show, and fellow entrepreneurs This episode is sponsored by Easy Webinar, be sure to check them out as well Check out Groove Pages, the free tool we talk about in our intro Negotiation Tactics From An Ex-FBI Hostage Negotiator - Chris Voss Reprogramming the Subconscious to Think Like a Millionaire - Marshall Sylver

Erin Pheil joins us on the show today and she is talking about how to get over mental roadblocks that get you stuck. These can be mindset blocks for anything, whether it be personal or business, and she gave several practical, tactical steps, and exercises that you can do to shatter those beliefs. It’s actually a fun, interesting process and Erin gives us real-world examples that are totally relatable. We even talk about some of our own patterns where Erin guides us through the steps to evaluate where they came from so we can uncover mental roadblocks in our business.  Erin is so amazing, we even booked a follow-up call where she is going to continue to help us work through some of these other patterns. You will love this episode and Erin is going to get you unstuck with some simple questions and quick tactics that do not take long to do. Check out her company, MindFix Group which has some free videos and exercises on there, as well as information about hiring her to get a clear understanding of your current roadblocks and create a map of what a breakthrough would look like to you. Once you have listened, be sure to tune in to our previous shows with David Allen and Dr. Steve Ruden for additional insights on how to rock your productivity and erase those roadblocks that keep holding you back. “It’s not what’s happening in your life that’s so bad, it’s how you are seeing it and interpreting it that’s making you so miserable. If you can change the lens through which you see the world, everything else can change too.” - Erin Pheil Some Topics We Discussed Include: What the heck is mindful yawning and how to use it in a conversation (without falling asleep) Example questions to ask yourself to get to the root of your belief Beneficial ways to journal to help clear out limiting beliefs Real-world examples of dealing with common misconceptions that many of us learned at children How a mysterious illness changed Erin’s life forever The all too common imposter syndrome and Erin’s tips to help us get over that ourselves How to invoke Solomon’s Paradox to change your beliefs on your own That time you saw Santa at the mall and the real impact it may have had And much, much more! Resources From Erin Pheil: MindFixGroup.com MindFix Facebook Group References and Links Mentioned: The Work of Byron Katie Books dealing with neuroscience by Mark Waldman Are you ready to be EPIC with us?! Then grab our EGP Letter here! FlowchartGroup.com - be sure to hop in our Facebook group to chat with us, our other amazing guests that we’ve had on the show, and fellow entrepreneurs! This episode is sponsored by our go-to SEO research tool, Ahrefs.com, by Easy Webinar and Gina Horkey’s Podcast Production School. How A Simple New Habit Will Change Your Life And Reduce Your Stress - David Allen This Science-Backed Exercise Can Rewire Your Brain For Success - Dr. Steve Ruden

Adam Lewis Walker is totally in the zone in this interview and if you’ve ever wanted to get your message out into the world via the TED platform or are curious about the behind the scenes action there, listen in. We talked first, about how to get onto the TEDx stage, which Adam knows all too well. We also talk about how to “Awaken Your Alpha” which is the title of Adam’s TEDx talk as well as his book and podcast. Adam’s focus is all about getting the right mindset, confidence, and everything you need to push your life forward. With his podcast, he discusses how to get your own TED talks, debunking the process along the way as well as what to do at the talk, how to hone in your message to conform with their time restraints, and what to do once you get the talk. Oftentimes, people don’t do enough to leverage that publicity, so Adam gives us great information on what to do with that talk once you get it. So there’s the mindset stuff plus tactical stuff in this show, a double whammy! After you listen to this episode, be sure to check out our previous shows with Bedros Keuilian and Theo Lucier for even more insights on how to kick ass in life.  “You can overcome your environment, but you’ve got to accept the things you can’t control.” - Adam Lewis Walker Some Topics We Discussed Include: The new world record Adam plans to beat What the heck is the Dickens process and how it will be super helpful to you The different levels of TED talks and how they are not all the same Tips to make your application stand out A simple exercise from the book to get your awareness of all things affecting your life, tuned in for clarity and improvement where needed The meaning behind “Awakening Your Alpha” Ways to bust through your “I can’t…” self talk How to dial in your message for your talk and for future events And much, much more! Resources From Adam Lewis Walker: Talk Xcelerator podcast Awaken Your Alpha TEDx talk Awaken Your Alpha podcast Awaken The Alpha book Talk Xcelerator podcast References and Links Mentioned: The New Rules of Success book The Courage To Be Disliked by Ichiro Kishimi & Fumitake Koga  Are you ready to be EPIC with us?! Then grab our EGP Letter here! FlowchartGroup.com - be sure to hop in our Facebook group to chat with us, our other amazing guests that we’ve had on the show, and fellow entrepreneurs! This episode is sponsored by our go-to SEO research tool, Ahrefs.com, by Easy Webinar and Gina Horkey’s Podcast Production School. How to Cut the Bull and Kick Ass in Business (And in Life) - Bedros Keuilian How To Be Smarter, Energized, And Focused All Day - Theo Lucier

This is our second show with Mike Filsaime, who has been around forever in the online world and is a true pioneer in the industry. He’s got a new software called Groove Pages, which is an online page builder. The cool thing is that as of this recording, he’s giving it away for free! On today’s show, Mike chats with us about the evolution of this software, how it came to be, as well as the story of his past software platforms such as Kartra. He also gave us a video demonstration of Groove Pages, which you can see by checking out the link below, so be sure to check that out. While we may have been a little skeptical at the beginning of this conversation, by the end we were totally blown away at the infrastructure behind it. He’s making it awesome for affiliates to promote so you’ll definitely want to listen to this episode and follow along. Once you are done, be sure to check out the previous show we did with Mike as well as our episode where we chatted with Joey Xoto, who shares a similar story about creating a software empire. “Page builders, webinars, membership platforms, affiliates, and sales platforms are all technology. You have to ask yourself when you go to buy something that you want to invest in - “Do I want to buy my technology from a marketing company or from a technology company?” - Mike Filsaime Some Topics We Discussed Include: The differences between Groove Pages and ClickFunnels The beauty of the “First tag wins” concept All the features of this new platform and what to expect in the months and years to come Why it’s a no brainer to sign up and share with others Breaking down Butterfly Marketing and the method of the viral marketing system  How Mike went from making $9 an hour to meeting his future business partner on a yacht the next year All the tools, tier levels and promotional goodies you will need to set yourself up early in the game A small mistake made on the day of the big launch   And much, much more! References and Links Mentioned: GrooveFAQ.com Groove Pages Check out our Facebook Live with Mike where you can see all the behind the scenes info as to how Groove Pages works Are you ready to be EPIC with us?! Then grab our EGP Letter here! FlowchartGroup.com - be sure to hop in our Facebook group to chat with us, our other amazing guests that we’ve had on the show, and fellow entrepreneurs! This episode is sponsored by our go-to SEO research tool, Ahrefs.com, by Easy Webinar and Gina Horkey’s Podcast Production School. Check out our video interview with Mike to see Groove Pages in action How To Load Up Webinars AND How To Build A Software Business - Mike Filsaime The Story Behind A $30 Million “Simple” Software Empire - Joey Xoto

Dean Holland created one of the first coaching programs we went through online and he’s been into creating info products and affiliate marketing for many years. He also has a book about affiliate marketing called The Iceberg Effect which you can get for free. On today’s show, you’ll get to hear Dean’s evolution which ties into a really solid affiliate system and where he also is helping a ton of people selling online.    We reminisce about the early days of affiliate promotions all the way to what is working current day, and how Dean has found the perfect blend for his business of promoting his own offers with other marketer’s products which are a good fit for his audience, as well as some change in thinking over the years in regards to how he markets to the leads he gets. After you get your mind reeling with the possibilities, check out our other episodes with Navid Moazzez and our Therapy Session show we did earlier this year where we discuss more affiliate marketing strategies, what most affiliate marketers are doing wrong, and how to set yourself apart from the rest.  “I just came around to the viewpoint that if there is a complimentary software or something that I know can help my customers...why can't I be the one to provide that solution and everybody wins.” - Dean Holland Some Topics We Discussed Include: We reminisce about our own early days in the affiliate marketing game, even recalling who was our very first customer was (you’ll never guess!) How Dean’s wife actually beat his conversions even with an ugly funnel Why recommending other people’s product to your list actually increases the sales of your own What Dean is doing with his best performing broadcast emails The four most important things to focus on daily, which have a direct impact on revenue Dean’s observation with working with newcomers and the key things to get you moving towards your first sale And much, much more! Contact Dean Holland: The Iceberg Effect References and Links Mentioned: ClickFunnels The Iceberg Effect Just The Tips podcast Dream 100 list Ready, Fire, Aim by Michael Masterson Fix This Next any other books by Mike Michalowicz FlowchartGroup.com - be sure to hop in our Facebook group to chat with us, our other amazing guests that we’ve had on the show, and fellow entrepreneurs! Are you ready to be EPIC with us?! Then grab our EGP Letter here! This episode is sponsored by our go-to SEO research tool, Ahrefs.com, by Easy Webinar and Gina Horkey’s Podcast Production School. Therapy Session – Unapologetic Affiliate Marketing Strategies Affiliate Marketing Using Virtual Summits - Navid Moazzez