Reversing Climate Change

What is the gap between what farmers know now and what they need to know to farm more regeneratively? How do we close that gap?What is the best way to advocate for the adoption of regenerative agriculture practices?Jesse Smith is the Director of Land Stewardship at White Buffalo Land Trust, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit dedicated to practicing, promoting and perfecting the principles and practices of regenerative ag.On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Jesse joins Ross to explain how WBLT furthers regenerative ag through the development of products, training programs, and scientific research.Jesse shares WBLT’s focus on teaching the integration of annual and perennial cropping with animal systems and offers advice on attracting young engineers, scientists, and creative artists to the regenerative ag space.He goes on to discuss the benefit of ecosystem service payments, describing what he views as the unfair advantage producers have in regions with a higher potential for carbon sequestration and what markets like Nori can do about it.Listen in for Jesse’s insight on using distributed ledger technology and blockchain to support regenerative ag and learn how you can support White Buffalo Land Trust and its consumer-facing brand, Figure Ate Foods.Connect with NoriPurchase Nori Carbon RemovalsNori's websiteNori on TwitterCheck out our other podcast, Carbon Removal NewsroomResourcesWhite Buffalo Land TrustWBLT on InstagramWBLT Training ProgramsFigure Ate FoodsRoots of the Future II EventSavory InstituteKiss the GroundThe Biggest Little FarmLeah Penniman on Reversing Climate Change S2EP57Books by Bill MollisonRudolf SteinerCenter for Regenerative Agriculture at Jalama Canyon RanchCalifornia’s Healthy Soils ProgramThe NRCS EQIP ProgramThe NRCS Conservation Stewardship ProgramUSDA Local Food Promotion ProgramRegen NetworkHow a Warming Climate Is Changing Wine on Reversing Climate Change S3EP10

The Rhône Valley of France is famous for its Syrah, Grenache, and Viognier grapes (among others), while Merlot, Cabernet Sauvignon, and Cab Franc (et al!) are grown in Bordeaux. And these wine grapes have thrived in their respective regions for centuries.But what happens when rising temperatures change the kinds of grapes that can be grown in a particular area?How is the climate crisis changing the way wine is produced? And what can we do as consumers to promote sustainability among winemakers?Paul Wagner is a Viticulture and Winery Technology Instructor at Napa Valley College and Cohost of Bottle Talk with Rick and Paul. He also serves as guest lecturer at multiple universities in Europe and the US and offers several wine-related courses as part of The Great Courses lecture series.On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Paul joins Ross to explain what attracts him to the artistry and experience of winemaking, exploring what makes wine grapes sweeter than any other fruit and how they give you a sense of both place and time.Paul describes how climate is changing the way wine is made everywhere in the world, discussing what winemakers are doing to avoid rising temperatures and how the climate crisis might influence the evolution of wine in places like Bordeaux and Rhone.Listen in for insight on how climate informs the alcohol content in wine and get Paul’s advice for the environmentally conscious on choosing a wine you like—and then finding a winemaker who’s working toward carbon neutrality.(Wine is discussed for its own sake for the first twenty or so minutes. If you want to skip right to the intersection with climate, it begins at 24:32.)Connect with NoriPurchase Nori Carbon RemovalsNori's websiteNori on TwitterCheck out our other podcast, Carbon Removal NewsroomResourcesBottle Talk with Rick & PaulBottle Talk on CapRadioPaul Wagner WinePaul on The Great CoursesRobert MondaviNapa Valley College Viticulture & Winery Technology DepartmentSalt, Fat, Acid, Heat: Mastering the Elements of Good Cooking by Samin NosratDecanter World Wine AwardsFamilia Torres: Wine & Climate ChangeWine Folly: The Essential Guide to Wine by Madeline Puckette and Justin HammackHugh Johnson

Carbon Removal Newsroom, the sister podcast to Reversing Climate Change, was born out of a desire to explore current events in the carbon removal space from a policy perspective.But since the show debuted in early 2019, its production team has evolved and so has our approach to discussing the latest in climate news.Radhika Moolgavkar is Head of Supply and Methodology at Nori and Host of Carbon Removal Newsroom, and Asa Kamer serves as Producer of CRN.On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Radhika and Asa join Ross to explain how CRN evolved to focus on the business, policy, and science of carbon removal news and share their favorite episodes from the recent past.Radhika and Asa explore how podcasting facilitates thoughtful public conversations around meaningful issues and describe how a show benefits when its host approaches the subject matter with a beginner’s mind.Listen in to understand how CRN stays up on big news in the industry and get Radhika and Asa’s take on the future of carbon removal.Connect with NoriPurchase Nori Carbon RemovalsNori's websiteNori on TwitterCheck out our other podcast, Carbon Removal NewsroomResourcesCarbon Removal NewsroomAir MinersCarbon180The Carbon Removal ShowPolitical ClimateThe Energy GangHolly Jean BuckChris Barnard at the American Conservation CoalitionSusan SuJane ZelikovaThe Boom in Carbon Removal Legislation and Funding on CRN EP045Noah McQueen of Heirloom on CRN S3EP28OpenAir’s Toby Bryce on CRN S3EP29Chan-Zuckerburg Initiative Invests $44M in Carbon Removal on CRN S3EP30Ocean-Based Carbon Removal on CRN S3EP32Ton-Year Accounting with Carbon Direct on CRN S3EP31Eight DAC Companies to Watch in 2022 on CRN S3EP27Forest Carbon Over-Crediting on CRN S3EP21Climate Reparations on CRN S3EP26Carbon Removal Memes on InstagramCarbon Removal Memes for Climate Restorative Teens on FacebookCarbon Removal Memes for Climate Restorative Teens on TwitterOpenAir Collective

*Use discount code NORI for 20% off your online order at https://www.barnaclefoods.com/. Note: this is not sponsored content. We just dig Barnacle Foods!*Kelp could be an extraordinary tool for long-term carbon sequestration. It also happens to be delicious.And that’s why Matt Kern is on a mission to promote kelp farming in his home state of Alaska and replace some of the more carbon-intensive foods in our diet with seaweed.Matt Kern is the Cofounder of Barnacle Foods, a food manufacturing business based in Juneau that uses Alaskan kelp as its principal ingredient.On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Matt joins Ross to discuss how his team sources kelp in a sustainable way and describe what differentiates foraged food from farmed.Matt explores why seaweed is not more popular in the US and explains what Barnacle Foods is doing to introduce consumers to the savory, rich flavors of bull kelp.Listen in to understand what makes kelp a fast, efficient tool for carbon sequestration and find out where you can go to try Barnacle Foods’ hot sauce, seasonings, pickles, and other provisions.Resources⁠⁠Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change⁠⁠Follow the Reversing Climate Change podcast on LinkedInBarnacle Foods [Discount Code NORI]Barnacle Foods Store LocatorBrian Von Herzen on Reversing Climate Change EP034Brian Von Herzen on Reversing Climate Change S2 Bonus

We have talked at length on previous episodes about the flaws in compliance markets. And the team at Nori obviously believes in voluntary carbon markets, as we’re building one ourselves.But there’s a wide range of quality among voluntary markets, and the space is 1,000 times smaller than the compliance programs in progress around the world.So, have cap-and-trade markets contributed to a meaningful reduction in emissions in spite of their flaws? And are compliance markets the only way to address carbon emissions at scale?Michael Azlen is the Founder and CEO of Cabon Cap Management LLP and Co-Portfolio Manager of the World Carbon Fund. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Michael joins Ross and guest cohost Aldyen Donnelly to explain how he got interested in carbon as an asset class and share his take on the benefits of compliance markets.Aldyen offers insight on the two compliance market models, describing the problems associated with programs modeled after the SO2 Allowance Market—and why she prefers the framework of the Montreal Protocol.Listen in to understand how Michael thinks about regulating voluntary carbon markets and why he is optimistic about the global growth in compliance markets despite their imperfections.Resources⁠⁠Become a paid subscriber of Reversing Climate Change⁠⁠Follow the Reversing Climate Change podcast on LinkedInCarbon Cap ManagementClimate-Crypto, COP26, and Carbon Accounting Rules on Reversing Climate Change S3EP1Michael’s Paper on Carbon as an Emerging Asset ClassWorld Carbon FundThe US Acid Rain SO2 Allowance MarketThe Montreal ProtocolEU Emissions Trading SystemFit for 55Kyoto ProtocolClean Air Interstate RuleCross-State Air Pollution RuleThe Regional Greenhouse Gas InitiativeCalifornia’s Cap-and-Trade ProgramCalifornia Scoping Plan DocumentsUK Emissions Trading Scheme

80% of Indigenous people sit on 80% of global biodiversity and 25% of land—but make up only 5% of the population. So, what can we learn about regenerative agriculture from the Native American farmers who’ve been managing our land for millennia? Dr. Michael Kotutwa Johnson has a PhD in Natural Resources and is a traditional Hopi dryland farmer. Dr. Johnson regularly lectures on the topic of dryland farming and advocates for indigenous farmers with the Natural Resource Conservation Service, and his work is featured in the documentary film, INHABITANTS: Indigenous Perspectives on Restoring Our World. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Johnson joins Ross and cohost Rebekah Carlson, Agriculture Supply Lead at Nori, to explain how his ancestors learned to raise crops in the arid environment of Northern Arizona and what we can do to honor the long heritage of regenerative agriculture. Dr. Johnson discusses the benefit of applying Indigenous traditional ecological knowledge in federal decision-making, sharing his place-based approach to land management and endorsement of the cooperative model. Listen in to understand the hurdles Native Americans face in accessing government conservation stewardship programs and learn how Dr. Johnson raises crops to fit the environment rather than manipulating the environment to fit the crops. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources INHABITANTS: Indigenous Perspectives on Restoring Our World Nephi Craig on Reversing Climate Change S2 EP55 Memorandum for the Heads of Departments and Agencies Re: Indigenous Traditional Ecological Knowledge and Federal Decision Making Regenerative Agriculture Conference Native American Agricultural Fund Indian Land Tenure Foundation Johnson v. M'Intosh Janie Simms Hipp Zach Ducheneaux The University of Arizona Indigenous Resiliency Center Morrill Land Grant College Act

What happens to dreams of the future that never arrive, yet still affect our society and culture so deeply? Is it possible to be haunted by failed visions or our own anticipations, and what does that mean? Today, Dr. Holly Jean Buck, Assistant Professor of Environment and Sustainability at the University of Buffalo and author of the new book, Ending Fossil Fuels: Why Net Zero Is Not Enough, comes back on the show for a bonus episode to explain the concept of "hauntology", its origin in Jacques Derrida's writing and later popularization by Mark Fisher in his book, Capitalism Realism: Is There No Alternative?, and to what degree these ideas might help us understand the worlds of carbon removal, climatetech, and our shared planetary future. Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Dr. Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change S2 Bonus Dr. Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change EP103 Dr. Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change S3E4 After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative? by Mark Fisher

In the fight against climate change, many are working to achieve net zero by 2050. And achieving net zero means leveraging quite a lot of emissions reduction, management, and carbon removal. But Dr. Holly Jean Buck contends that we should focus less on managing the byproduct and more on phasing out fossil fuels entirely by the end of the century. Dr. Buck is Assistant Professor of Environment and Sustainability at the University of Buffalo and author of the new book, Ending Fossil Fuels: Why Net Zero Is Not Enough. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, she joins Ross to differentiate net zero from full zero and share her vision of a fully decarbonized, post-extractivist society. Dr. Buck discusses what we can do to overcome the political resistance to renewables and describes how critical theory concepts like ‘petromelancholia’ can help us understand the challenges associated with the energy transition. Listen in for insight around the government’s role in phasing out fossil fuels and learn how we can use net zero as a starting point to facilitate the fair transition to a bioeconomy. Key Takeaways [1:49] What inspired Dr. Buck to write Ending Fossil Fuels: Why Net Zero Is Not Enough [3:17] Why we need to focus less on managing emissions and more on phasing out fossil fuels altogether [4:06] What differentiates full zero from net zero and Dr. Buck’s argument for working toward full zero [8:41] What we can do to overcome the political resistance to renewables [10:12] Why nuclear energy might have fewer political repercussions than large-scale renewables [12:31] How Dr. Buck thinks about achieving net zero through degrowth [14:26] Dr. Buck’s take on immersive reality replacement [17:43] Why Dr. Buck shifted away from using the term ‘managed decline’ to describe the energy transition [20:55] The concepts of petromelancholia and petro-masculinity [22:21] Dr. Buck’s insight on how fossil fuel jobs and benefits are gendered [23:33] How social analysis and critical theory help us understand the challenges associated with the energy transition [25:30] How a nation’s government impacts its policy around phasing out fossil fuels [29:05] Why Dr. Buck advocates for big emitters like the US to be more ambitious so that less-developed nations can emit longer [31:59] What full decarbonization to true zero by 2100 might look like [33:12] Dr. Buck’s vision of a post-extractivist society [34:58] Why the petrochemical industry was not inevitable and how we can make the shift to a bioeconomy Connect with Nori Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Dr. Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change S2 Bonus Dr. Holly Jean Buck on Reversing Climate Change EP103 After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair and Restoration by Holly Jean Buck Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative? by Mark Fisher

Farmland has transformed into a financial asset class. So, what happens when land is owned by large financial institutions? How does it impact farmer autonomy? And could it be good for fighting climate change? Dr. Madeleine Fairbairn is Associate Professor of Environmental Studies at UC Santa Cruz and author of Fields of Gold: Financing the Global Land Rush. On this episode of Reversing Climate Change, Dr. Fairbairn joins Ross and guest cohost Dr. Lauren Gifford to discuss the emergence of the institutional farmland investments industry and describe how land has value independent of what it produces. Dr. Fairbairn explores what’s behind the steep decline in the number of farmers over the last century and explains how large-scale farmland ownership could have positive consequences for the environment and negative social consequences at the same time. Listen in for Dr. Fairbairn’s insights into Georgism as a potential policy response and find out what the financialization of farmland means for the small farmer, the economy and the climate. Key Takeaways [1:40] How Fields of Gold explores the emergence of the institutional farmland investments industry [5:24] What Dr. Fairbairn means by ‘the financialization of land’ [9:25] The non-linear progression from communal forms of land ownership to a more and more sophisticated commodification of land [11:51] How land has value independent of what it produces [13:52] What’s behind the decline in the number of farmers over the last century [18:01] The connections between the financialization of farmland and climate (and how what we ask of farmland managers is changing) [21:12] How large-scale farmland ownership could have positive environmental consequences and negative social consequences at the same time [26:18] How landowners in Brazil are tasked with serving society as a whole [30:31] How Dr. Fairbairn thinks about billionaires like Bill Gates acquiring hundreds of thousands of acres of land [34:03] Dr. Fairbairn’s take on a Georgist land value tax as a potential policy response [40:03] The relationship between Georgism and the politics of productivity [42:37] What Dr. Fairbairn is learning about agri-food technology through the UC AFTeR Project she’s working on now Resources Dr. Fairbairn at UC Santa Cruz Dr. Fairbairn on Twitter Fields of Gold: Financing the Global Land Rush by Madeleine Fairbairn Dr. Lauren Gifford USDA Discrimination Lawsuits ‘Bill Gates: America’s Top Farmland Owner’ in The Land Report Billionaire Wilderness: The Ultra-Wealthy and the Remaking of the American West by Justin Farrell The Mason Gaffney Reader: Essays on Solving the ‘Unsolvable’ by Mason Gaffney Radical Markets: Uprooting Capitalism and Democracy for a Just Society by Eric A. Posner and E. Glen Weyl

Here in America, we like stories with happy endings. Our media usually comes with a clear message and unanswered questions make us uncomfortable. But Paul Greenberg knows that there’s no simple answer to complex problems like climate change. Paul is the award-winning food and environmental writer behind titles like The Climate Diet, American Catch, and Four Fish. On this bonus episode of Reversing Climate Change, Paul rejoins Ross to discuss his new podcast, Fish Talk, and reflect on the advantages of podcasting as a medium for open-ended storytelling around complex issues. Paul describes the homesteading and terrace garden projects he’s working on right now, explaining why he's cautious about monetizing his hobbies and if and how a friendlier form of capitalism might support creatives. Listen in for Paul's insight on how our political system informs the way we approach both storytelling and complex challenges such as overfishing and climate change. Key Takeaways [2:33] The themes of environmentalism, eating and catching fish featured on Fish Talk [7:37] Paul's take on the advantages of podcasting as a medium vs. journalism or documentary filmmaking [12:40] How happy endings are part of the American capitalist model of storytelling (and why that won’t work for the climate crisis) [17:03] How Paul thinks about eco-Leninism and how the role of journalism in society has changed [21:32] Why it's so challenging for the US to reach a consensus on big issues like COVID and climate change [25:08] How we fixed our overfishing problem in the US (and how that problem compares to the climate crisis) [27:56] How we outsource our polluting industries to China and what might happen if the Chinese decide they want a clean environment [29:52] The homesteading and terrace garden writing projects Paul is considering right now [34:27] Why the idea of a deep meditation on his climate safe acre in the Adirondacks appeals to Paul [39:37] Paul’s commitment to deprogram himself from the relentless selling he grew up with [44:01] How a friendlier form of capitalism might support creatives [45:23] Why Paul likes homesteaders Helen and Scott Nearing’s ideal way to organize a day [48:42] The danger in monetizing our hobbies [50:43] How Succession and the Monty Python films successfully critique capitalism and religion Connect with Ross Purchase Nori Carbon Removals Nori's website Nori on Twitter Check out our other podcast, Carbon Removal Newsroom Resources Paul on Medium Paul on Reversing Climate Change S2EP61 Paul's website The Fish Talk podcast One Green World nursery Monty Python’s Almost the Truth on Netflix