The Boring AppSec Podcast
The Boring AppSec Podcast
In this podcast, we will talk about our experiences having worked at different companies - from startups to big enterprises, from tech companies to security companies, and from building side projects to building startups. We will talk about the good, the bad, and everything in between. So join us for some fun, some real, and some super hot takes about all things Security in the Boring AppSec Podcast.
Episodes
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Apr 22, 2024 • 46min
S1E08 - Bug Bounties Part 2
Welcome to the Boring AppSec Podcast! In Episode 8, we continue discussing bug bounties from where we left off in Episode 3. We discuss how to build mature bug bounty programs, how to start a program, how to convince stake holders to start a program, differences and similarities between vulnerability disclosure programs and bug bounty programs among other things. Tune in!
Contacting Anshuman
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anshumanbhartiya/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/anshuman_bh
Website: https://anshumanbhartiya.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anshuman.bhartiya/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AnshumanBhartiya
Contacting Sandesh
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anandsandesh/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JubbaOnJeans/
Website: https://boringappsec.substack.com/
Apr 15, 2024 • 55min
S1E07 - Hiring in Security
Welcome to the Boring AppSec Podcast! In Episode 7, we discuss how to hire the right security folks on a security engineering team. We go over the interviewing process, what to look out for, how to compose a team, and also share some of our experiences of interviewing including some tips on what a candidate can/should do if they want to get noticed by hiring managers and recruiters.
Contacting Anshuman
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anshumanbhartiya/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/anshuman_bh
Website: https://anshumanbhartiya.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anshuman.bhartiya/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AnshumanBhartiya
Contacting Sandesh
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anandsandesh/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JubbaOnJeans/
Website: https://boringappsec.substack.com/
Apr 8, 2024 • 57min
S1E06 - Vulnerability Management
Welcome to the Boring AppSec Podcast! In Episode 6, we discuss the art of Vulnerability Management. What it means, what are some of the problems we've seen as practitioners, what are some ways we've considered to make the process of managing vulnerabilities easy.
References:
We will try and add information about all the references we make here. Please enter rabbit holes at will :)
Gitlab's Security Handbook - https://handbook.gitlab.com/handbook/security/
Contacting Anshuman
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anshumanbhartiya/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/anshuman_bh
Website: https://anshumanbhartiya.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anshuman.bhartiya/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AnshumanBhartiya
Contacting Sandesh
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anandsandesh/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JubbaOnJeans/
Website: https://boringappsec.substack.com/
Apr 1, 2024 • 1h 2min
S1E05 - Threat Modeling
Welcome to the Boring AppSec Podcast! In Episode 5, we dig deep into what threat modeling is from a practitioner's perspective. We compare it with design reviews and discuss when/how/why of threat modeling. In the end, we wrap up by talking about how Gen AI could help threat modeling significantly.
References:
We will try and add information about all the references we make here. Please enter rabbit holes at will :)
Threat modeling manifesto - Threatmodelingmanifesto.org
STRIDE framework - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STRIDE_(security)
Tools for threat modeling
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/security/develop/threat-modeling-tool
https://www.iriusrisk.com/threat-modeling/freemium
https://owasp.org/www-project-threat-dragon/
https://excalidraw.com/
https://www.securitycompass.com/sdelements/
Talks on threat modeling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGy_KCRUGd4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVSyqFdO-D8
Articles - https://www.scaletozero.com/episodes/understanding-threat-modeling-with-jeevan-singh/
Gen AI related threat modeling tools/companies
Stride GPT- https://stridegpt.streamlit.app/
Nullify - https://www.nullify.ai/
Remysec - https://www.remysec.com/
Seezo - https://seezo.io/
https://www.sarahtavel.com/p/ai-startups-sell-work-not-software
https://github.com/captn3m0/ideas
Contacting Anshuman
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anshumanbhartiya/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/anshuman_bh
Website: https://anshumanbhartiya.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anshuman.bhartiya/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AnshumanBhartiya
Contacting Sandesh
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anandsandesh/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JubbaOnJeans/
Website: https://boringappsec.substack.com/
Mar 25, 2024 • 1h 10min
S1E04 - Running a lean AppSec team
Welcome to the Boring AppSec Podcast! In Episode 4, we discuss how lean AppSec teams run and operate. We share our experiences of having worked in engineering heavy organizations where the "engineer : appsec-engineer" ratio is far from ideal and scaling the AppSec team becomes very important to be able to reasonably manage risk.
References:
We will try and add information about all the references we make here. Please enter rabbit holes at will :)
Soft skills are important - https://www.softsideofcyber.com/
Bhadra, the vulnerability management platform built and open sourced by Razor Pay - https://github.com/razorpay/bhadra
Devin - https://www.cognition-labs.com/introd...
Seezo (Automating design reviews) - https://seezo.io/
Contacting Anshuman
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anshumanbhartiya/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/anshuman_bh
Website: https://anshumanbhartiya.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anshuman.bhartiya/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AnshumanBhartiya
Contacting Sandesh
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anandsandesh/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JubbaOnJeans/
Website: https://boringappsec.substack.com/
Mar 18, 2024 • 1h 11min
S1E03 - Bug Bounties
Welcome to the Boring AppSec Podcast! In Episode 3, we discuss all things bug bounties. The researcher side as well as the program owner's side. Enter at your own will as we have a lot of hot takes.
References:
We will try and add information about all the references we make here. Please enter rabbit holes at will :)
Bug Bounty Platforms
Bugcrowd - https://www.bugcrowd.com/
HackerOne - https://www.hackerone.com/
Intigrity - https://www.intigriti.com/
Synack - https://www.synack.com/
2. Vulnerability Disclosure Process - https://www.cisa.gov/coordinated-vulnerability-disclosure-process
3. Google’s Project Zero vulnerability disclosure policy - https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/p/vulnerability-disclosure-faq.html
4. CVSS Calculator - https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln-metrics/cvss/v3-calculator
5. Handling A Bug Bounty program From A Blue Team Perspective - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgy150R4bRw&t=0s
6. Consumer Bug Bounty Panel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8X6pV7rdbA&t=0s
Contacting Anshuman
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anshumanbhartiya/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/anshuman_bh
Website: https://anshumanbhartiya.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anshuman.bhartiya/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AnshumanBhartiya
Contacting Sandesh
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anandsandesh/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JubbaOnJeans/
Website: https://boringappsec.substack.com/
Mar 11, 2024 • 1h 8min
S1E02 - First Security Hire
Welcome to the Boring AppSec Podcast! In Episode 2, we discuss what a first security hire responsibilities are. How do they prioritize? What do they prioritize?
References:
We will try and add information about all the references we make here. Please enter rabbit holes at will :)
Building a product security program
Some blogs on getting SOC2 certifications without too much redtape - RunReveal, Fly.io
Tracking Meaningful Security Product Metrics
Build vs Buy Framework
OpenAI Sora
LLM Agents Can Autonomously Hack Websites
Arcanum Information Security
SecGPT in https://chat.openai.com/gpts
Contacting Anshuman
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anshumanbhartiya/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/anshuman_bh
Website: https://anshumanbhartiya.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anshuman.bhartiya/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AnshumanBhartiya
Contacting Sandesh
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anandsandesh/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JubbaOnJeans/
Website: https://boringappsec.substack.com/
Mar 4, 2024 • 45min
S1E01 - Asset Inventory
Welcome to the Boring AppSec Podcast! In Episode 1, we discuss software inventories. What they are, why we need them, and what are our favorite ways to build them.
References:
We will try and add information about all the references we make here. Please enter rabbit holes at will :)
Cartography - https://github.com/lyft/cartography
GenAI + Cartography
https://shinobi.security/#how-it-works
https://github.com/samvas-codes/cspm-gpt
Commercial asset inventory mentioned on the show: https://www.jupiterone.com/
Talk by Sandesh and Satyaki on automating asset inventory generation at Razorpay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q42Pw9F44k&ab_channel=HasgeekTV
XKCD about too many standards - https://m.xkcd.com/927/
Arvind Narayanan on Gen AI chatbots and rock-paper-scissors: https://x.com/random_walker/status/1755684956502728969?s=20
Emily Oster on parenting - https://emilyoster.net/ . She has now moved her newsletter away from Substack. You can sign up at https://parentdata.org/
Contacting Anshuman
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anshumanbhartiya/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/anshuman_bh
Website: https://anshumanbhartiya.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anshuman.bhartiya/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AnshumanBhartiya
Contacting Sandesh
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anandsandesh/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JubbaOnJeans/
Website: https://boringappsec.substack.com/
