

The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession
Associated Bodywork & Massage Professionals
Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.
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May 19, 2023 • 18min
Ep 346 – Spinal Stenosis Surgery: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
An 88-year-old man is preparing for his third decompression surgery for spinal stenosis. His friend wonders if massage therapy might be helpful, or even replace this risky procedure. Join us for a closer look at spinal stenosis and the risks and benefits of this common surgery! Sponsors: Books of Discovery: www.booksofdiscovery.com Host Bio: Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at www.booksofdiscovery.com. And more information about her is available at www.ruthwerner.com. Recent Articles by Ruth: “Working with Invisible Pain,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, November/December 2022, page 36, http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1481961-november-december-2022/38 “Unpacking the Long Haul,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, January/February 2022, page 35, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1439667-january-february-2022/36. “Chemotherapy-Induced Peripheral Neuropathy and Massage Therapy,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2021, page 33, http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1402696-september-october-2021/34. “Pharmacology Basics for Massage Therapists,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, July/August 2021, page 32, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1384577-july-august-2021/34. Resources: Pocket Pathology: https://www.abmp.com/abmp-pocket-pathology-app The Back Jam https://themassagementorinstitute.com/p/backjam Alhaug, O.K. et al. (2021) ‘Criteria for failure and worsening after surgery for lumbar spinal stenosis: a prospective national spine registry observational study’, The Spine Journal, 21(9), pp. 1489–1496. Available at: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.spinee.2021.04.008. Anderson, D.B. et al. (2019) ‘SUcceSS, SUrgery for Spinal Stenosis: protocol of a randomised, placebo-controlled trial’, BMJ Open, 9(2), p. e024944. Available at: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmjopen-2018-024944. Beatty, R.M. (1987) ‘Persistent nerve root compression by buckling of the longitudinal ligament after chemonucleolysis’, Neurosurgery, 20(2), pp. 332–334. Available at: https://doi.org/10.1227/00006123-198702000-00025. Complications of Spine Surgery (no date). Available at: https://www.umms.org/ummc/health-services/orthopedics/services/spine/patient-guides/complications-spine-surgery Ep 34 – Spinal Fusion—“I Have a Client Who …” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner (2020) Associated Bodywork & Massage Professionals. Available at: https://www.abmp.com/podcasts/ep-34-spinal-fusion-i-have-client-who-pathology-conversations-ruth-werner. Katz, J.N. et al. (2022) ‘Diagnosis and Management of Lumbar Spinal Stenosis: A Review’, JAMA, 327(17), pp. 1688–1699. Available at: https://doi.org/10.1001/jama.2022.5921. Laminectomy Surgery for Back Pain: Treatment, Risks, Recovery (no date) Cleveland Clinic. Available at: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/10895-laminectomy-surgery-for-back-pain Massage & Bodywork - MARCH | APRIL 2021 (no date). Available at: http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1338685-march-april-2021/36? Surgery for spinal stenosis linked to lower mortality and costs (no date). Available at: https://www.wolterskluwer.com/en/news/surgery-for-spinal-stenosis-linked-to-lower-mortality-and-costs What is the latest treatment for spinal stenosis? (2022). Available at: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/what-is-the-latest-treatment-for-spinal-stenosis

May 18, 2023 • 15min
Ep 345 - The Infinite Loop of the Obliques: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney
The internal and external obliques may seem like antagonists to the untrained eye, but look a little closer and you will see an infinite loop that’s a work of engineering genius and an example of exquisite humanness. In this episode of The Rebel MT, Allison describes why the obliques bring to mind a certain Celtic knot. Or possibly some pretzels—depending on your take. Special shout-out to Rachelle Clauson and Nicole Trombley of AnatomyScapes.com for their wisdom and insights. Host: Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com Allison’s website: www.rebelmassage.com Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at YouTube.com/RebelMassage. She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at rebelmassage.com. Allison’s column in Massage & Bodywork magazine: “The QL and the Psoas: The Epitome of Codependency” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine, January/February 2022, page 24. “The Hand: A User’s Guide,” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine. November/December 2021, page 81. “Feelization: Connect with Clients on a Deeper Level,” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2021, page 85. This podcast sponsored by: Rebel Massage Therapist: http://www.rebelmassage.com AnatomySCAPES: www.anatomyscapes.com Rebel Massage Therapist: My name is Allison. And I am not your typical massage therapist. After 20 years of experience and thousands of clients, I have learned that massage therapy is SO MUCH more than a relaxing experience at a spa. I see soft tissue as more than merely a physical element but a deeply complex, neurologically driven part of who you are. I use this knowledge to work WITH you—not ON you—to create change that works. This is the basis of my approach. As a massage therapist, I have worked in almost every capacity, including massage clinics, physical therapy clinics, chiropractor offices, spas, private practice, and teaching. I have learned incredible techniques and strategies from each of my experiences. In my 20 years as a massage therapist, I have never stopped growing. I currently have a private practice based out of Long Beach, California, where I also teach continuing education classes and occasionally work on my kids. If they’re good. website: www.rebelmassage.com FB: facebook.com/RebelMassage IG: instagram.com/rebelmassagetherapist YouTube: youtube.com/c/RebelMassage email: rebelmassagetherapist@gmail.com AnatomySCAPES - created by & for hands-on professionals. As hands-on health professionals, we want more than labeled charts of muscles, nerves, and bones. We crave anatomy education that informs our touch. AnatomySCAPES’ innovative online trainings are bringing vibrant, visual, real anatomy understanding to therapists with the Anatomy LOVERS eBox! Each month, you receive an image-packed, research-loaded mini-course including: A downloadable and sharable Anatomy ART Card. Research-loaded, 1-hour Course Webinar in the Anatomy LOUNGE with Nicole Trombley and Rachelle Clauson. Anatomy ZINE course manual full of images, science and art to help you dig deeper. Anatomy BRIEF Video that takes you into the dissection lab to see how anatomy LOOKS, FEELS, MOVES, and RELATES to its surroundings. Really visual, really relevant, REAL anatomy education for hands-on professionals. Go to anatomyscapes.com/ABMP and become an Anatomy LOVERS eBox subscriber today! Website: www.anatomyscapes.com FB: www.facebook.com/anatomyscapes IG: www.instgram.com/anatomyscapes YouTube: www.youtube.com/@anatomyscapes Email: info@anatomyscapes.com

May 16, 2023 • 32min
Ep 344 – Knowing Expectations in the Work Environment with Nate Nordstrom and Carrie Wiedemann
In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Nate and Carrie from Hand and Stone Massage and Facial Spa join Kristin and Darren to discuss knowing your expectations in the work environment, why peer mentors are beneficial to a practice, and how open communication during an interview can help set the tone during your tenure. Nate, a massage therapist since 2001, is licensed in several states and is board-certified. He has taught massage therapists since 2004 and is a nationally recognized continuing education provider. As a massage therapist, he has worked in many settings. He teaches the application of ethics in daily life and advanced anatomy for massage therapists. He is the senior director of training and massage therapy industry relations for Hand and Stone Massage and Facial Spa. Resources: www.handandstone.com Hosts: Darren Buford is senior director of communications and editor-in-chief for ABMP. He is editor of Massage & Bodywork magazine and has worked for ABMP for 22 years, and been involved in journalism at the association, trade, and consumer levels for 24 years. He has served as board member and president of the Western Publishing Association, as well as board member for Association Media & Publishing. Contact him at editor@abmp.com. Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com. Sponsors: Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com PurePro: www.purepro.com Touch America: www.touchamerica.com Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function. Website: anatomytrains.com Email: info@anatomytrains.com Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA Pure Pro Massage Products From the start in 1992, Pure Pro has distinguished itself by adhering to its values of quality, purity, efficacy, and education. Pure Pro knows that discerning massage therapists deserve high-quality products that perfectly support and enhance healing work. Pure Pro Massage Products are created by massage therapists for massage therapists and bodyworkers who care deeply about the quality of their massage products. Pure Pro products are nut-free, gluten-free, cruelty-free, and made with natural ingredients in the USA. Pure Pro’s full line of oils, creams, and Arnica lotion has everything you need for your favorite modality and will always leave your clients’ skin feeling clean and fresh after each treatment. Listeners can receive $10 off their next order of $59 or more at PurePro.com by using promo code ABMPPOD. Website: http://www.purepro.com Email: info@purepro.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/purepromassageproducts Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/purepromassageproducts/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCncpFzRVwZA_V_SnylkHyMw TouchAmerica is a leading manufacturer of professional grade wellness furniture, bodywork tables, halotherapy suites, hydrotherapy equipment, sound bathing loungers, and other related products. At TouchAmerica, we believe in a future where good health and vitality are common in all aspects of living. Promoting the positive power of conscious touch is at the core of our vision. We hope our products help add a touch of functional elegance to your massage & spa work environment. ABMP members receive 20% off all standard products. Discounts do not apply to salt or special-order SKUs. Visit https://www.touchamerica.com/ or Call 800 67 TOUCH and use code touchABMP*. Reach out today and feel the TouchAmerica difference!

May 9, 2023 • 26min
Ep 343 – Walk in, Float Out with Brittany Driscoll
So, why did the founders of Drybar start a massage business? Because they love making people feel good. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin and Darren are joined by Brittany Driscoll, co-founder and CEO of Squeeze, to discuss why she made the leap from Drybar to Squeeze; why mission, philosophy, and culture are the backbone of the Squeeze experience for both therapist and client; and how being a female entrepreneur can disrupt a male-dominated franchise industry. Brittany is co-founder and chief executive officer of Squeeze and responsible for, well, everything there. Before launching Squeeze, Brittany spent four years running marketing for Drybar, where she helped take the company from $30 million to more than $100 million. She also opened more than 50 new shops and launched the Drybar product line internationally, as well as in Sephora, Ulta, and Nordstrom. Before Drybar, Brittany spent over a decade in marketing and advertising at agencies such as Mistress (Mattel, the Coca-Cola Company, Hilton Worldwide), RAPP (Skype, Toyota), and experiential agency USMP (Home Depot). Brittany believes wholeheartedly in the power of a great experience and is excited to build a feel-good revolution! Learn more at https://www.squeezemassage.com/ Hosts: Darren Buford is senior director of communications and editor-in-chief for ABMP. He is editor of Massage & Bodywork magazine and has worked for ABMP for 22 years, and been involved in journalism at the association, trade, and consumer levels for 24 years. He has served as board member and president of the Western Publishing Association, as well as board member for Association Media & Publishing. Contact him at editor@abmp.com. Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com. Sponsors: Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com PurePro: www.purepro.com Touch America: www.touchamerica.com Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function. Website: anatomytrains.com Email: info@anatomytrains.com Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA Pure Pro Massage Products From the start in 1992, Pure Pro has distinguished itself by adhering to its values of quality, purity, efficacy, and education. Pure Pro knows that discerning massage therapists deserve high-quality products that perfectly support and enhance healing work. Pure Pro Massage Products are created by massage therapists for massage therapists and bodyworkers who care deeply about the quality of their massage products. Pure Pro products are nut-free, gluten-free, cruelty-free, and made with natural ingredients in the USA. Pure Pro’s full line of oils, creams, and Arnica lotion has everything you need for your favorite modality and will always leave your clients’ skin feeling clean and fresh after each treatment. Listeners can receive $10 off their next order of $59 or more at PurePro.com by using promo code ABMPPOD. Website: http://www.purepro.com Email: info@purepro.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/purepromassageproducts Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/purepromassageproducts/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCncpFzRVwZA_V_SnylkHyMw TouchAmerica is a leading manufacturer of professional grade wellness furniture, bodywork tables, halotherapy suites, hydrotherapy equipment, sound bathing loungers, and other related products. At TouchAmerica, we believe in a future where good health and vitality are common in all aspects of living. Promoting the positive power of conscious touch is at the core of our vision. We hope our products help add a touch of functional elegance to your massage & spa work environment. ABMP members receive 20% off all standard products. Discounts do not apply to salt or special-order SKUs. Visit https://www.touchamerica.com/ or Call 800 67 TOUCH and use code touchABMP*. Reach out today and feel the TouchAmerica difference!

May 5, 2023 • 14min
Ep 342 – Pelvic Pain: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
A client with chronic pelvic pain has been through the wringer, trying to get a solid diagnosis and effective treatment for what has—for lack of a better option—been diagnosed as levator ani syndrome. Is there anything massage can do for this person? And is there a connection between levator ani syndrome and this client’s extreme flexibility? We explore these questions and more on this episode of “I Have a Client Who . . .” Sponsors: Books of Discovery: www.booksofdiscovery.com Advanced-Trainings: www.advanced-trainings.com Host Bio: Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at www.booksofdiscovery.com. And more information about her is available at www.ruthwerner.com. Recent Articles by Ruth: “Working with Invisible Pain,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, November/December 2022, page 36, http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1481961-november-december-2022/38 “Unpacking the Long Haul,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, January/February 2022, page 35, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1439667-january-february-2022/36. “Chemotherapy-Induced Peripheral Neuropathy and Massage Therapy,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2021, page 33, http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1402696-september-october-2021/34. “Pharmacology Basics for Massage Therapists,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, July/August 2021, page 32, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1384577-july-august-2021/34. Resources: Pocket Pathology: https://www.abmp.com/abmp-pocket-pathology-app Chronic Pelvic Pain in Women (no date). Available at: https://www.abmp.com/textonlymags/article.php?article=1550 (Accessed: 2 May 2023). Gilliam, E., Hoffman, J.D. and Yeh, G. (2020) ‘Urogenital and pelvic complications in the Ehlers-Danlos syndromes and associated hypermobility spectrum disorders: A scoping review’, Clinical genetics, 97(1), pp. 168–178. Available at: https://doi.org/10.1111/cge.13624. https://www.physiotherapyroom.com/Self-Care-for-Pelvic-Pain-A-Sensory-Integration-Toolkit Knowles, C.H. and Cohen, R.C. (2022) ‘Chronic anal pain: A review of causes, diagnosis, and treatment’, Cleveland Clinic Journal of Medicine, 89(6), pp. 336–343. Available at: https://doi.org/10.3949/ccjm.89a.21102. Levator Ani Syndrome: Symptoms, Causes, and Treatment (2017) Healthline. Available at: https://www.healthline.com/health/levator-ani-syndrome (Accessed: 28 April 2023). Massage & Bodywork - JULY | AUGUST 2016 (no date). Available at: http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/694071-july-august-2016/44? (Accessed: 2 May 2023). Myofascial Pelvic Pain (no date) Physiopedia. Available at: https://www.physio-pedia.com/Myofascial_Pelvic_Pain (Accessed: 2 May 2023). Self-Care for Pelvic Pain—a Sensory Integration Toolkit by Sandy Hilton, PT, DPT, MS

May 2, 2023 • 27min
Ep 341 – A Placebo Approach to Massage with Mark Liskey
Warmth, competence, rituals, and good listening skills in the massage room will help you harness placebo pathways. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin and Darren speak with Mark Liskey about how the placebo effect can be a positive approach to massage therapy, the differences between expectancy and learned association, and examples of what can produce a placebo effect. Mark Liskey is a massage therapist of 30 years, CE teacher and provider, blogger, writer, and co-producer and co-host of the International Take Care of Your School event, a self-care conference for massage therapists. Recently, he wrote The Pain-Free Massage Therapist, a do-it-yourself “body-mechanics strategies and techniques” book for eliminating pain in the massage room and extending massage careers. You can access free instructional body-mechanics videos at his website painfreemassagetherapist.com. Mark is also the creator of makethemostofmassage.com, a business resource for massage therapists. Access the free massage business crash course on the courses page. Resources: Read Mark’s article in the March/April issue of Massage & Bodywork magazine: http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1492048-march-april-2023/46? Hosts: Darren Buford is senior director of communications and editor-in-chief for ABMP. He is editor of Massage & Bodywork magazine and has worked for ABMP for 22 years, and been involved in journalism at the association, trade, and consumer levels for 24 years. He has served as board member and president of the Western Publishing Association, as well as board member for Association Media & Publishing. Contact him at editor@abmp.com. Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com. Sponsors: Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com PurePro: www.purepro.com Touch America: www.touchamerica.com Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function. Website: anatomytrains.com Email: info@anatomytrains.com Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA Pure Pro Massage Products From the start in 1992, Pure Pro has distinguished itself by adhering to its values of quality, purity, efficacy, and education. Pure Pro knows that discerning massage therapists deserve high-quality products that perfectly support and enhance healing work. Pure Pro Massage Products are created by massage therapists for massage therapists and bodyworkers who care deeply about the quality of their massage products. Pure Pro products are nut-free, gluten-free, cruelty-free, and made with natural ingredients in the USA. Pure Pro’s full line of oils, creams, and Arnica lotion has everything you need for your favorite modality and will always leave your clients’ skin feeling clean and fresh after each treatment. Listeners can receive $10 off their next order of $59 or more at PurePro.com by using promo code ABMPPOD. Website: http://www.purepro.com Email: info@purepro.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/purepromassageproducts Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/purepromassageproducts/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCncpFzRVwZA_V_SnylkHyMw TouchAmerica is a leading manufacturer of professional grade wellness furniture, bodywork tables, halotherapy suites, hydrotherapy equipment, sound bathing loungers, and other related products. At TouchAmerica, we believe in a future where good health and vitality are common in all aspects of living. Promoting the positive power of conscious touch is at the core of our vision. We hope our products help add a touch of functional elegance to your massage & spa work environment. ABMP members receive 20% off all standard products. Discounts do not apply to salt or special-order SKUs. Visit https://www.touchamerica.com/ or Call 800 67 TOUCH and use code touchABMP*. Reach out today and feel the TouchAmerica difference!

Apr 25, 2023 • 28min
Ep 340 – The Myofascial System in Form and Movement with Lauri Nemetz
There are many misconceptions about the myofascial system, and the science is changing rapidly. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin and Darren speak with Lauri Nemetz about her book, The Myofascial System in Form and Movement. Lauri speaks about how her background in art history, dance and movement therapy, and anatomical dissection helped weave together the many facets of the evolving area of myofascial research. Lauri is an adjunct professor at Pace (NY) University, Visiting Associate Professor, Deptartment of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, Rush University Medical Center in Chicago, a licensed creative arts therapist, a member of the American Association for Anatomy, a board-certified member of the Academy of Dance/Movement Therapists, a Yoga Alliance yoga teacher and education provider at the 500-hour level, a Stott Pilates instructor, a certified yoga therapist (IAYT), and a provider and former faculty member for Anatomy Trains and Anatomy Trains Dissections. She co-leads knmlabs.com and guests internationally for dissection projects, including the Fascia Net Plastination Project. She is the author of The Myofascial System in Form and Movement (Handspring Publishing, 2022), a contributor to The Anatomy of Yoga Coloring Book (North Atlantic Books, 2022), and the author of numerous articles. She has presented internationally, including at Harvard Medical, Oxford University, and at conferences for the American Association for Anatomy. More information available on wellnessbridge.com. Resources: The Myofascial System in Form & Movement: https://us.singingdragon.com/products/the-myofascial-system-in-form-and-movement Hosts: Darren Buford is senior director of communications and editor-in-chief for ABMP. He is editor of Massage & Bodywork magazine and has worked for ABMP for 22 years, and been involved in journalism at the association, trade, and consumer levels for 24 years. He has served as board member and president of the Western Publishing Association, as well as board member for Association Media & Publishing. Contact him at editor@abmp.com. Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com. Sponsors: Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com PurePro: www.purepro.com Touch America: www.touchamerica.com Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function. Website: anatomytrains.com Email: info@anatomytrains.com Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA Pure Pro Massage Products From the start in 1992, Pure Pro has distinguished itself by adhering to its values of quality, purity, efficacy, and education. Pure Pro knows that discerning massage therapists deserve high-quality products that perfectly support and enhance healing work. Pure Pro Massage Products are created by massage therapists for massage therapists and bodyworkers who care deeply about the quality of their massage products. Pure Pro products are nut-free, gluten-free, cruelty-free, and made with natural ingredients in the USA. Pure Pro’s full line of oils, creams, and Arnica lotion has everything you need for your favorite modality and will always leave your clients’ skin feeling clean and fresh after each treatment. Listeners can receive $10 off their next order of $59 or more at PurePro.com by using promo code ABMPPOD. Website: http://www.purepro.com Email: info@purepro.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/purepromassageproducts Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/purepromassageproducts/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCncpFzRVwZA_V_SnylkHyMw TouchAmerica is a leading manufacturer of professional grade wellness furniture, bodywork tables, halotherapy suites, hydrotherapy equipment, sound bathing loungers, and other related products. At TouchAmerica, we believe in a future where good health and vitality are common in all aspects of living. Promoting the positive power of conscious touch is at the core of our vision. We hope our products help add a touch of functional elegance to your massage & spa work environment. ABMP members receive 20% off all standard products. Discounts do not apply to salt or special-order SKUs. Visit https://www.touchamerica.com/ or Call 800 67 TOUCH and use code touchABMP*. Reach out today and feel the TouchAmerica difference!

Apr 21, 2023 • 12min
Ep 339 – Confidence: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
A client is a survivor of childhood trauma. She is a single parent of two children with special needs. She has recently been diagnosed with fibromyalgia and wonders if other conditions also contribute to her problems. She appreciates massage, but her massage therapist is worried they’re not helping enough. What can we do when we have a crisis of confidence? “I Have a Client Who . . .” host Ruth Werner offers a couple of important reminders about realistic expectations and the benefits that massage can, and sometimes can’t, offer. Sponsors: Books of Discovery: www.booksofdiscovery.com Host Bio: Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at www.booksofdiscovery.com. And more information about her is available at www.ruthwerner.com. Recent Articles by Ruth: “Working with Invisible Pain,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, November/December 2022, page 36, http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1481961-november-december-2022/38 “Unpacking the Long Haul,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, January/February 2022, page 35, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1439667-january-february-2022/36. “Chemotherapy-Induced Peripheral Neuropathy and Massage Therapy,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2021, page 33, http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1402696-september-october-2021/34. “Pharmacology Basics for Massage Therapists,” Massage & Bodywork magazine, July/August 2021, page 32, www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1384577-july-august-2021/34. Resources: Pocket Pathology: https://www.abmp.com/abmp-pocket-pathology-app Relevant M&B articlesTrauma-Informed Care: Walking the Path of Client-Centered Connection and Collaboration. Available at http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1464088-may-june-2022/72? Working with Invisible Pain: The Sustainable Practices MTs Can Use to Help Clients with Fibromyalgia. Available at http://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1464088-may-june-2022/72?

Apr 20, 2023 • 15min
Ep 338 - The Knee: A Jalopy Story: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney
One would think that the knee, one of anatomy’s most used and abused joints, would have a little better engineering behind it. It doesn’t. And there’s a lot that can go sideways. In this episode of The Rebel MT, Allison details the anatomy of a knee, analyzes why it’s so easily injured, discusses how to best approach it as a bodyworker, and shares the story of her own clunker of a knee, which, it turns out, is why she’s even a massage therapist in the first place. Host: Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com Allison’s website: www.rebelmassage.com Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at YouTube.com/RebelMassage. She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at rebelmassage.com. Allison’s column in Massage & Bodywork magazine: “The QL and the Psoas: The Epitome of Codependency” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine, January/February 2022, page 24. “The Hand: A User’s Guide,” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine. November/December 2021, page 81. “Feelization: Connect with Clients on a Deeper Level,” by Allison Denney, Massage & Bodywork magazine, September/October 2021, page 85. This podcast sponsored by: Rebel Massage Therapist: http://www.rebelmassage.com AnatomySCAPES: www.anatomyscapes.com Rebel Massage Therapist: My name is Allison. And I am not your typical massage therapist. After 20 years of experience and thousands of clients, I have learned that massage therapy is SO MUCH more than a relaxing experience at a spa. I see soft tissue as more than merely a physical element but a deeply complex, neurologically driven part of who you are. I use this knowledge to work WITH you—not ON you—to create change that works. This is the basis of my approach. As a massage therapist, I have worked in almost every capacity, including massage clinics, physical therapy clinics, chiropractor offices, spas, private practice, and teaching. I have learned incredible techniques and strategies from each of my experiences. In my 20 years as a massage therapist, I have never stopped growing. I currently have a private practice based out of Long Beach, California, where I also teach continuing education classes and occasionally work on my kids. If they’re good. website: www.rebelmassage.com FB: facebook.com/RebelMassage IG: instagram.com/rebelmassagetherapist YouTube: youtube.com/c/RebelMassage email: rebelmassagetherapist@gmail.com AnatomySCAPES—created by and for hands-on professionals. As therapists, we want more than labeled charts of muscles, nerves, and bones. We crave anatomy education that informs our touch, and we want the know-how for working with the “stuff” in between. We want the whole story. Led by AnatomySCAPES co-directors, and ABMP Massage & Bodywork magazine columnists, Rachelle Clauson (FRS Fascial Net Plastination Project) and Nicole Trombley (Equilibrio Massage), our in-person lab workshops are in sunny San Diego, not far from the ocean. We teach you what the tissues look like, feel like, how they move, and how they relate to their surroundings. Your eyes and hands learn to “see” what they could not see before. Come join us in the lab in 2023! Website: http://www.anatomyscapes.com/abmp FB: facebook.com/AnatomySCAPES IG: instagram.com/anatomyscapes YouTube: youtube.com/@anatomyscapes

Apr 18, 2023 • 36min
Ep 337 – Lubricants: The Goldilocks of Glide with Diana Dapkins
Many bodyworkers could avoid injury or burnout simply by changing their massage lubricants. But, how do we match the lubricant to the client? In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin and Darren speak with Diana Dapkins about how the lubricants you use affect body mechanics, what led to her “lubricant epiphany,” and how to adapt when working with various client types. Dianna is the founder and president of Pure Pro Massage Products, a company that has focused on providing the highest quality products to massage therapists and bodyworkers since 1992. For more information about Diana, visit purepro.com Hosts: Darren Buford is senior director of communications and editor-in-chief for ABMP. He is editor of Massage & Bodywork magazine and has worked for ABMP for 22 years, and been involved in journalism at the association, trade, and consumer levels for 24 years. He has served as board member and president of the Western Publishing Association, as well as board member for Association Media & Publishing. Contact him at editor@abmp.com. Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com. Sponsors: Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com PurePro: www.purepro.com Touch America: www.touchamerica.com Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function. Website: anatomytrains.com Email: info@anatomytrains.com Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA Pure Pro Massage Products From the start in 1992, Pure Pro has distinguished itself by adhering to its values of quality, purity, efficacy, and education. Pure Pro knows that discerning massage therapists deserve high-quality products that perfectly support and enhance healing work. Pure Pro Massage Products are created by massage therapists for massage therapists and bodyworkers who care deeply about the quality of their massage products. Pure Pro products are nut-free, gluten-free, cruelty-free, and made with natural ingredients in the USA. Pure Pro’s full line of oils, creams, and Arnica lotion has everything you need for your favorite modality and will always leave your clients’ skin feeling clean and fresh after each treatment. Listeners can receive $10 off their next order of $59 or more at PurePro.com by using promo code ABMPPOD. Website: http://www.purepro.com Email: info@purepro.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/purepromassageproducts Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/purepromassageproducts/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCncpFzRVwZA_V_SnylkHyMw TouchAmerica is a leading manufacturer of professional grade wellness furniture, bodywork tables, halotherapy suites, hydrotherapy equipment, sound bathing loungers, and other related products. At TouchAmerica, we believe in a future where good health and vitality are common in all aspects of living. Promoting the positive power of conscious touch is at the core of our vision. We hope our products help add a touch of functional elegance to your massage & spa work environment. ABMP members receive 20% off all standard products. Discounts do not apply to salt or special-order SKUs. Visit https://www.touchamerica.com/ or Call 800 67 TOUCH and use code touchABMP*. Reach out today and feel the TouchAmerica difference!