
Gavel Gavel
Gavel Gavel is the podcast that takes you inside the courtroom! Comedian Thomas Smith asks questions and cracks jokes while real legal experts with actual trial experience provide unique analysis.
Latest episodes

Jul 9, 2025 • 39min
Lively v. Baldoni 30 - Keeping Up with the Jones's Lawyers
Joining the discussion are Maaren Shah and Kristin Tahler, both lawyers at Quinn Emanuel representing Stephanie Jones. They dive into the complexities of Jones v. Abel, covering third-party subpoenas and the fight against defamation online. The duo reveals the challenges of obtaining critical evidence from social media, while navigating constitutional hurdles. With a keen eye on contractual breaches, they share insights on how to balance privacy and accountability in high-stakes legal battles, shedding light on both procedural and ethical dilemmas.

Jul 9, 2025 • 38min
Lively v. Baldoni 29 - Wayfarer's Countercomplaint with MJ Morley
It's our final catch up on the Jones v. Abel docket before we have Stephanie Jones's lawyers on! MJ is back to break down this one. It's very business-y and contract-y and that's just what MJ Morley probably knows best! Does Wayfarer have any chance at these counterclaims against Jones and Jonesworks? Find out!

Jul 8, 2025 • 55min
Lively v. Baldoni 28 - Wayfarer's (Copied and Pasted) Countercomplaint
There's lot of copy and paste in this one, but also some realllly interesting stuff. How is Wayfarer going to defend themselves against Stephanie Jones' incredibly straightforward and coherent case?

Jul 6, 2025 • 37min
Lively v. Baldoni 27 - More with More with MJ Morley on Jen Abel's Countercomplaint
This will conclude Jen Abel's countercomplaint. Next, we'll be onto Wayfarer's countercomplaint!

Jul 5, 2025 • 39min
Lively v. Baldoni 26 - MJ Morley on Jen Abel's Counterclaims
We're so lucky to have MJ Morley (@morewithmj) back on the show, this time to give us the legal breakdown of Jen Abel's counterclaims against Stephanie Jones and Jonesworks!

Jul 2, 2025 • 53min
Lively v. Baldoni 25 - "All of This Because Abel Dared to Leave Jonesworks"
It's part 3 of Jen Abel's countercomplaint against Jones and Jonesworks!

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Jul 1, 2025 • 59min
Lively v. Baldoni 24 - Jen Abel KIDNAPPED! MISSING AND PRESUMED PHONELESS.
In a whirlwind of debates, tensions flare over Jen Abel's kidnapping claims and the challenges of her counter-suit. The crew humorously navigates phone dilemmas surrounding personal and work contacts while exploring the chaos of a missing device. A confrontation with legal repercussions reveals betrayal in the workplace, raising questions about privacy and trust. They dive into the intricate dynamics among key figures, exposing potential ulterior motives. Plus, a keen look at how personal biases fuel conspiracy theories rounds out the thought-provoking conversation.

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Jul 1, 2025 • 55min
Lively v. Baldoni 23 - Her Disarming Southern Twang
Get ready for a deep dive into the wild legal battle of Jones v. Abel, where the hosts dissect Stephanie Jones's and Jennifer Abel's contrasting narratives. Explore jaw-dropping courtroom strategies and the impact of California labor laws on workplace dynamics. Discover the chaos at Jones Works, filled with high turnover and toxic culture. Plus, they unravel the media’s role in framing the allegations against Jones, revealing how personal conflicts can spiral into public drama. Don't miss the quirky nicknames and teasers for upcoming dark tales!

Jun 5, 2025 • 54min
Lively v. Baldoni 22 - The Great Subpoena Mystery SOLVED. - with MJ Morley
MJ Morley, a savvy New York lawyer, brings intriguing legal insights about the Blake Lively case. He unpacks the complexities of a mysterious subpoena, revealing new findings no one else has noticed. The conversation dives into the identity challenges surrounding the entity Van Zand and assesses the legitimacy of a New York lawsuit. Morley also discusses the legal maneuvers in celebrity cases, highlighting the ethical dilemmas posed by media narratives and the public's misunderstandings of legal processes. A captivating peek into the legal underbelly of high-profile drama!

Jun 3, 2025 • 47min
Lively v. Baldoni 21 - The Contract Was neither Implied, nor in Fact. And It Wasn’t a Contract.
GG21 - Part 21 of LvB is Part 11 of Wayfarer et al v The New York Times The FINAL part of Baldoni et al v. NYT! FINALLLY. Attorney Anne Linder takes us through the final 3 causes of action.