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Winning the Challenger Sale

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Jul 6, 2023 • 34min

#77: Build the Best Buying Experience From First-Call Demo to Close

You’ve identified a problem you want to solve for your organization. You’ve done the research and narrowed it down to two promising solutions. After visiting the websites for both, you click ‘book a call’ and wait.The first SDR spends an hour talking to you about our organization and needs—it sounds like you’re a great fit, at least from their perspective. So they schedule another call with you the following week for a demo. You hang up and wait some more, with very little knowledge to sway your solution decision.The second SDR jumps right in, they’re already familiar with your organization and ask about team priorities, immediately jumping into a demo. You leave the call with a clear understanding of whether or not this solution is the perfect fit.Which sounds like the better buying experience? If you said the first, you’re likely to be the only human who also enjoys trips to the DMV.We speak with Ashley Zagst, Senior Account Executive at Chili Piper about the power of demo-ing on the first call (and how it benefits the buyer and seller). Join us as we discuss:The role demoing plays in the sales process (and how to leverage it to your advantage)Creating safe space for sellers to build a foundation of trust with buyersDiversity across teams and in the pipeline, and why it’s so important
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Jun 29, 2023 • 28min

#76: How to Find the Human Element in Commercial Teaching

You rely on the school bus to get your child to and from school safely every single day. You expect the bus to be outfitted with the best, most reliable parts and fuel. So how would you feel if your child was unexpectedly late coming home? And more—you found out the bus broke down because it was using cheap engine oil that causes higher ash buildup over the premium option.Your child's well-being is worth more than the cost-savings of discount oil, and you’ll be hard-pressed to find anyone that disagrees. Which is the story that Christine Cox, North America Sales Methodology Specialist at Chevron, used to sell a heavy duty engine oil to a maintenance manager for a school bus company. Probably not where you thought that was going, was it?In this episode of the Winning The Challenger Sale podcast, Andee talks to Christine about using stories like this one to humanize the sale and as part of the Commercial Teaching choreography, which will help you better connect with buyers and set yourself apart from competitive solutions in your industry.Listen to the full episode for:Putting the buyer as a human at the center of your sales conversationsTaking relationship selling to the next level with Commercial Insight and TeachingDesigning your pitch deck as an accessory to lead to your solution, not with your solution
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Jun 15, 2023 • 24min

#75: Using Storytelling to Stand Out, Give Back, and Build Connections

Your alarm goes off and you grab your phone, silencing the noise to scroll social media for a few minutes before getting ready for the day.You stream music and eat breakfast—flipping through recipes and meal plans (paper or digital, be real) and planning your grocery list. You hop in the car and head to work or the gym or wherever you start your day.From the moment we wake up to the moment we close our eyes, we are bombarded with endless information. So much so, much of it has become white noise.When was the last time you actually noticed the video ads between reels, voice ads on streaming platforms or printed ads on the billboards you drive past daily? And when you have noticed them, do they make you feel seen and understood? Or do they feel like a generic sales pitch? When it comes to being a beacon of clarity in the sea of noise, you have to provide information that will actually be valuable to your audience. And to catch their attention, you’ll need to do so with a strong narrative, according to our guest Cody Gillund, VP of Marketing at Open Lending. She shares the power of storytelling in shaping meaningful touchpoints to drive sales and ultimately give back to the community.We discuss:Using the Deal Accelerator program to move forward difficult dealsGetting back to the roots of knowing one another as people, while also driving sales and marketing forward as a teamThe power of narrative and storytelling in differentiation
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Jun 6, 2023 • 30min

#74: Be Curious in Discovery & Personalize the Sales Process

Sales has long been in fierce competition with other sellers and the status quo, losing customers to other companies and inaction. But today, we’re also up against every department head across our prospect’s businesses. With everyone lobbying for a slice of the budget, if the problem you solve isn’t a top priority in your prospect’s business today, you won’t close a sale.In Ep. 74 of Winning the Challenger Sale podcast, we talk with Collin Mitchell, VP of Sales at Leadium about what it takes to dig deep enough to shape a discovery so well you can take full charge of your sales process.We discuss:The importance of flexing the curiosity muscle throughout discoveryHow to unstick the most stuck deals (and avoid them altogether by prioritizing discovery)Understanding and adapting to customer personalities and dismissing all excuses around not understanding your buyer
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May 30, 2023 • 22min

#73: To Sell a Great Product, Create a Great Sales Experience

When it comes to winning with today’s B2B buyers, our guest on the Winning The Challenger Sale podcast this week has some serious mic-dropping comments:“If it’s not solving a problem, it’s a non-starter.”“If it's a great product, but there's not a great story to tell behind it, there's no point in really even selling it.”“Buyers can tell when you're not as into the product as maybe your competitor is.”Yep, you read that right. You can’t sell something you don’t believe in… at least not very well. And without a strong voice and a great story about the problem your product is solving, you might as well quit before you start.In this episode, Challenger’s very own VP of Product, Gina Slesar, brings a unique perspective to the discussion about who today’s B2B buyer is. As an experienced product leader, Gina explains what B2B buyers are looking for in the products they purchase, which in today’s volatile, uncertain economy, we know that connecting with buyers takes a lot more than a quality product and a decent offer.Listen to the full episode to hear Andee and Gina discuss:The three foundational components required to be successful selling a productManaging perceived risk and uncertainty in your deals to avoid no-decision lossesThe importance of gaining visibility into the sales experience from the buyer’s perspective at every stage of the dealIn case you missed it: Andee and Gina also presented a webinar on the latest Challenger research into B2B buyer behavior and trends, which you can watch on-demand here.
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May 23, 2023 • 33min

#72: How to Unbreak Discovery & Tailoring to Buyer Readiness

Your phone charger is frayed and bent.Wires exposed, you twist it slightly to the right and balance your phone just so to get it to charge.A new cord has been on your list for weeks, but let’s be honest, the situation isn’t quite urgent enough for you to hit “buy now.” It’s still charging, isn’t it?Until it isn’t.This strange habit of putting something off until it’s truly broken isn’t a personality flaw—it’s just human nature.And according to Hannah Ajikawo, CEO and Founder of Revenue Funnel, it exists in modern sales, too. Getting today’s B2B buyers to convert before things crash and burn is incredibly tough, but that’s what sellers should reach for. To do that, your reps need to understand exactly where your prospect is in their buying journey.Once you know that, Hannah says, you must proactively shape your discovery strategy, meet your buyer where they’re at, and guide them to the next step. This tailored discovery is a surefire way to differentiate from the first conversation and establish your value as a credible partner in a competitive buying situation.Listen to the full episode to learn more about:How to avoid being overhasty when it comes to building consensus in a buying groupShaping discovery strategies according to specific buyer readinessAll the best tips for discovery: two mistakes that all sellers make, the one question you MUST ask in discovery, the question you need to STOP asking, and how to do better introductions in a first sales call
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May 16, 2023 • 32min

#71 Rethinking Personalization in the Modern Outbound Selling System

We think we know our customers… but what if they’re in an entirely different universe than we imagine?Each layer of customer understanding unveils a new truth that should ultimately shape how sales and marketing connect with buyers. But too often, there is a complete disconnect between what a customer knows about your product and what your sellers are communicating to the market. So how can we close this gap when we can’t even gauge how many light-years away our ICP is?According to our latest guest, Jordan Crawford, Founder of Blueprint, if you take the time to hear customer stories, they’ll tell you something you’ve never even thought of. You can shortcut years of learning by asking customers what they already know. That is what it takes to bridge the divide and connect with today’s B2B buyers.Join us as we discuss:Using customer stories and experiences to launch conversations with precisionOutbound isn’t dead—but your outbound strategy might bePredictions for AI applications in sales and marketing (and how people are using AI wrong today)
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May 9, 2023 • 32min

#70: Make the Customer Journey the Heart of Everything in Sales

Would you show up to a street race with a bicycle? That’s probably what it feels like as a seller up against today’s digitally-enabled buyers.B2B buyers have almost everything they need to make informed buying decisions on their own. They’re in the driver’s seat… and sellers are stuck pedaling behind, trying to catch up.Luckily, it doesn’t have to be this way. Hendrik Isebaert, CEO at Showpad and our guest on the Winning The Challenger Sale podcast this week, is a former seller himself and a wealth of knowledge on taking control of the buyer’s journey, particularly in a virtual selling environment.His tips on preparation for virtual sales calls, selling on business impact, and building rapport in the digital space are everything you need to ditch the bike and hop in with the buyer to navigate together towards the purchasing finish line.Listen to the full episode to learn more about:Engaging with today’s increasingly digital B2B buyer by embracing an omnichannel sales experience to avoid information overloadInstilling confidence in the post-sale customer experience to win deals in a downturnBuilding rapport in a digital selling environment and using collaboration and interactivity for stronger virtual meetings
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May 2, 2023 • 34min

#69 What Makes a Successful SDR in Today’s B2B Buying Journey

Imagine your buyers all live in a gated community. A cold call is like showing up to the gatehouse without an invitation and expecting the security guard to let you in.But the buyer moved into that neighborhood for a reason, and it definitely wasn’t so that SDRs could show up unannounced.Instead, you need to get to know your buyers to turn that cold call into a warm call. Bump into them at the gym. Find out their favorite coffee shop. Heck, move in next door! (Okay, maybe this metaphor is getting a little too creepy.)Putting aside the stalker vibes, there’s still a lesson here. And today’s guest on the Winning The Challenger Sale podcast, Tom Slocum, Founder of The SD Lab, has plenty of lessons to share about connecting with B2B buyers.Today’s B2B buyers want relationships, community, and personalized solutions. Anyone can learn the skills needed to be an SDR, but to be a great one, you must become your ICP. That means doing your research, joining their communities, and adding value in every interaction.Building a community-like connection is more important than ever. And Tom shares exactly what your team can do to stop the “spray and pray” and instead… get an invite to the neighborhood BBQ!Listen as Tom and Andee discuss:What the modern (and more informed) B2B buyer actually wants from sales outreachHow SDRs can connect with today’s B2B buyerWhy your sales development team should transition from cold calling to a warm calling approach (and how to use Tom’s 3x3 method to do so)
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Apr 25, 2023 • 29min

#68 Making the Case for Social Selling in Your Commercial Teams

The bar has been raised for sellers and feels like it keeps rising. The amount of information modern buyers have is at an all-time high, buyers’ expectations from sellers have grown and changed, meaning sellers must now add more value than ever to help buyers along their purchasing journey.According to our latest guest, Ryan Barretto, President of Sprout Social, social media has quickly become one of the best platforms available to add that extra value.If your commercial organization isn’t prioritizing social selling, you’re missing a massive opportunity. (And don’t try to tell us that you don’t believe in the ROI—Ryan has some great counterpoints to that.)As a seller, if you can become adept at social selling, you can fast-forward building a connection with buyers and understanding what they care about so that you can provide a tailored and differentiated sales experience.It’s a win-win.Join Ryan and our host and Challenger CEO, Andee Harris, on this episode of the Winning The Challenger Sale podcast, where they discuss:How the role of a salesperson must change and adapt to the modern buyer, particularly in how they want to use and experience social mediaSocial selling as a massive opportunity for commercial teams across all funnel stagesDemystifying the ROI of social selling, including the strength of its halo effect on your brand and sales cycleYou can also watch Ryan and Andee present on unlocking the lead gen potential of social media in a recent webinar from our Leading The Challenger Sale webinar series. Watch the recording here.

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