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May 12, 2023 • 2h 9min

Episode 6: How True AGI Will Transform the Global Economy

Send us a textIn this podcast Goertzel and Potapov, two of the key minds behind Opencog Hyperon and TrueAGI, dive into some of the deep tech behind their approach to AGI, and give an in-depth run-through of the new MeTTa programming language, which is used in Hyperon for both humans and AI algorithms to encode AI processes, and will also be used as a smart contract language in the HyperCycle ledgerless blockchain. They also explain how humans and AGIs will be creating "specialized sublanguages within MeTTA, to support the different kinds of reasoning and learning that the AI needs to do,” such as:Sublanguages for various types of logical reasoning.Sublanguages for probabilistic programming.A specialized sublanguage for interfacing with deep neural nets, which will play a key role in the initiative by TrueAGI and Zarqa to create neural-symbolic LLMs.As Ben Goertzel explains, “The basic cognitive architecture behind Hyperon is similar to what we observe in the human mind, but instead of trying to imitate exactly how the brain does things, we fill in each module in the human mind’s architecture with a best-of-breed computer science algorithm carrying out that function. The big differences between Hyperon and older versions of OpenCog are a more scalable implementation and easier interfacing between neural nets and other AI algorithms, and a deeper mathematical foundation that we’ve worked out in the last few years that allows us to express a variety of different AI algorithms as variations on the same small set of mathematical processes.”OpenCog Hyperon  is a modern redesign and reimplementation of the OpenCog AGI framework, intended to enable a scalable and easily usable implementation of the OpenCog algorithms and architecture on current CPU/GPU hardware and decentralized computer networks. It’s also specifically designed to allow close and high-speed interactions between neural models like LLMs and the symbolic-reasoning, evolutionary-algorithm, probabilistic-programming algorithms that OpenCog supports on its distributed Atomspace knowledge metagraph.The TrueAGI application framework supports deployment of OpenCog Hyperon for business use, breaking new ground in AGI-as-a-service with APIs addressing practical needs across a variety of vertical markets.As Ben and Alexey explain: “We’ve created the company TrueAGI to pursue commercial applications of OpenCog Hyperon across multiple domains. With an initial focus on partnering with large enterprises and with selected small companies on using Hyperon and TrueAGI technology to supply a new AGI back end to the software applications that run the critical parts of their business.   Everyone is talking about AGI now, which is exciting for those of us who’ve been in the field since forever, but there aren’t many others who have the combination of AGI R&D knowledge and practical AI application development experience to pull off what TrueAGI is doing.”FOLLOW Mindplex Podcast:🔽  🔹 WEBSITE →  https://mindplex.ai🔹 Mindplex News → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/news/🔹 Mindplex TWITTER → https://twitter.com/Mindplex_ai🔹 FACEBOOK → https://www.facebook.com/MindplexAI/🔹 YOUTUBE  → https://www.youtube.com/@mindplexpodcast🔹 Spotify  → https://open.spotify.com/show/3RbGNlj9SX8rYOVblnVnGg
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Apr 18, 2023 • 1h 11min

Episode 5: Jim Rutt On Game B

Send us a textJim Rutt joins co-hosts Ben Goertzel, Lisa Rein and Desdemona Robot, to discuss “Game A” - what it is, why we need it, and how we might get there.Game B was an idea initialized by the need for change since Game A, the current system, is self-destructive/extinctionary and not sustainable, and is probably coming to an end, in the not too distant future. Jim Rutt and a group of renegade thinkers came together to explore why the world needs changing and how it can be achieved.Game B is trying to find a way to define a new social operating system consistent with our ecosystem's limits and, even more importantly, probably congruent with our nature as human beings. Episode 5’s Featured Guest - Jim Rutt Jim Rutt was one of the leaders behind Network Solutions, which was the first internet domain registrar. He was also CTO of Thomson Reuters, and has been a serial entrepreneur, especially in the enterprise software space, as well as a complex systems researcher and a trustee of the Santa Fe Institute, an organization which really brought complex systems science into the fore. In recent years, Jim has been working on a variety of really interesting ideas, including potential reforms of the US and global monetary systems, some experimenting with AI and AGI R & D. Jim brought together a group of thinkers from different fields to work on the biggest of all problems. In time, it developed a name: , "Game B." He is a proponent of the “Game B” effort to overhaul the entire social, economic and psychological system of all species on the planet.Subscribe to the Mindplex Podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/ @mindplexpodcast Check out Mindplex Magazine: https://mindplex.ai/ The Mindplex Podcast ponders AGI, cutting-edge technologies and the evolution of human consciousness. Its mission is to interview a wide variety of interesting thinkers - both human and synthetic - to investigate and better understand the complex topics of our time, as we learn to shape technologies that will assist us in bringing about a Benevolent Singularity.Subjects covered include: AGI, the Metaverse, Decentralized Economies, Superlongevity, Superintelligence, Nanotech and Femtotech, Psi, Psychedelics, Experimental Futuristic Art & Music, Robotics, Synthetic Biology, Quantum Computing, Consciousness, Brain-Computer Interfaces, Speculative Physics, Chaos and Complexity and anything else wildly interesting and mind-blowing.FOLLOW Mindplex Podcast:🔽  🔹 WEBSITE →  https://mindplex.ai🔹 Mindplex News → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/news/🔹 Mindplex TWITTER → https://twitter.com/Mindplex_ai🔹 FACEBOOK → https://www.facebook.com/MindplexAI/🔹 YOUTUBE  → https://www.youtube.com/@mindplexpodcast🔹 Spotify  → https://open.spotify.com/show/3RbGNlj9SX8rYOVblnVnGg
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Apr 7, 2023 • 56min

Episode 4: Cory Doctorow On Chokepoint Capitalism

Send us a textCory Doctorow joins co-hosts Ben Goertzel, Lisa Rein and Desdemona Robot, to discuss the topic of his latest book, “Chokepoint Capitalism,” which he co-authored with Rebecca Giblin.Chokepoint capitalism is a term coined to describe the way that corporations use their power to crush competition and lock in customers, resulting in higher prices for customers and lower wages for workers. It is a system that diverts record profits to corporations, allowing them to further cement their power and control over the marketplace.As the book explains, corporations often use “chokepoints” to create an hourglass shaped market, with customers at one end, creators at the other, and corporations in the middle. This anti-competitive cycle is resulting in lower prices for consumers, but also lower wages for workers, creating a cycle that’s giving corporations that have more and more power over the marketplace.  Check out Mindplex Magazine here: https://mindplex.aiSubscribe here: https://www.youtube.com/@mindplexpodcastThe Mindplex Podcast ponders AGI, cutting-edge technologies and the evolution of human consciousness. Its mission is to interview a wide variety of interesting thinkers - both human and synthetic - to investigate and better understand the complex topics of our time, as we learn to shape technologies that will assist us in bringing about a Benevolent Singularity.Subjects covered include: AGI, the Metaverse, Decentralized Economies, Superlongevity, Superintelligence, Nanotech and Femtotech, Psi, Psychedelics, Experimental Futuristic Art & Music, Robotics, Synthetic Biology, Quantum Computing, Consciousness, Brain-Computer Interfaces, Speculative Physics, Chaos and Complexity and anything else wildly interesting and mind-blowing.FOLLOW Mindplex Podcast:🔽  🔹 WEBSITE →  https://mindplex.ai🔹 Mindplex News → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/news/🔹 Mindplex TWITTER → https://twitter.com/Mindplex_ai🔹 FACEBOOK → https://www.facebook.com/MindplexAI/🔹 YOUTUBE  → https://www.youtube.com/@mindplexpodcast🔹 Spotify  → https://open.spotify.com/show/3RbGNlj9SX8rYOVblnVnGg
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Mar 23, 2023 • 2h 1min

Episode 3: Rejuve On The Scientific Conquest of Death

Send us a textThe Mindplex Podcast is hosted by Ben Goertzel, Lisa Rein, and Grace Robot.  The latest Mindplex Podcast Episode 3: On The Scientific Conquest of Death, takes a deep dive into Rejuve.AI and Rejuve.BIO, and how Rejuve.BIO’s cutting-edge Methuselah Fly research strategies complement Rejuve.AI’s techniques for developing personalized and “precision-based” anti-aging therapies. Rejuve.AI and Rejuve.BIO’s unique approach is not only aimed at curing aging but also at making sure that these anti-aging therapies are available for all — not just the rich.Episode 3 Podcast Guests:-Jasmine Smith, CEO of Rejuve.AI-Michael Duncan, PA-C, Chief Science Officer Rejuve.BIO & Director of Clinical Research, Rejuve.AI-Deborah Duong, CTO of Rejuve.AIEpisode 3 takes it for granted that extending the human lifespan is a positive goal, which gives Ben and the podcast guests an opportunity to explore what it means to extend the human lifespan by:    Recognizing aging as a disease,    Researching and isolating all of the various causes and contributors to ‘old age’ and death,    Create therapies to address those causes one by one,    Gradually extend the healthy human life span (aka healthspan),    With the eventual goal of postponing death indefinitely.More about Rejuve.AI and Rejuve.BIORejuve.AI, a spin-off of SingularityNET, is the world’s first decentralized AI longevity research network, bringing together blockchain, artificial intelligence, and longevity-focused research to increase human healthspan dramatically. Rejuve.AI’s mission is to decentralize the contribution of health data, which will enable and accelerate discoveries for advanced longevity therapies — and make the therapies available and affordable to all who want them. Most critically, Rejuve.AI is committed to fairly compensating the data contributors who made these discoveries possible and enabling them to maintain control of their data — forever.Rejuve Biotech is a partner company to Rejuve.AI and is building an innovative AI-powered drug discovery and development platform. The project is developing a translational medicine service that combines an in-house model organism population with a unique AI-based analytical platform. The platform combines state-of-the-art machine learning and artificial general intelligence methods with a continuously updated biomedical knowledge graph integrating human and model organism databases. The Rejuve Bio Flybase (fly genetics Atomspace database) and longevity drug prediction and discovery engines will be some of the first use cases of the OpenCog Hyperon AGI framework.The Rejuve Biotech animal model of choice is the long-lived Methuselah Fly, a type of Drosophila melanogaster (fruit fly), selectively bred over hundreds of generations to live at least 5 times longer than wild-type flies. These flies offer an expedited mode for generational longevity studies and for early evaluation of potential therapy candidates — faster, less expensive, and more scalable than human or other animal models.FOLLOW Mindplex Podcast:🔽  🔹 WEBSITE →  https://mindplex.ai🔹 Mindplex News → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/news/🔹 Mindplex TWITTER → https://twitter.com/Mindplex_ai🔹 FACEBOOK → https://www.facebook.com/MindplexAI/🔹 YOUTUBE  → https://www.youtube.com/@mindplexpodcast🔹 Spotify  → https://open.spotify.com/show/3RbGNlj9SX8rYOVbln
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Mar 2, 2023 • 1h 50min

Episode 2: Rachel St.Clair On AGI Hardware and Resource Management

Send us a textCo-hosted by Ben Goertzel, Lisa Rein, and Grace the Robot, with special guest Rachel St.Clair, Co-founder and CEO of Simuli.Rachel StClair is an AI scientist and entrepreneur who just received her PhD in complex systems and Brain Sciences and went on to co-found the AGI hardware company Simuli, making processors that use advanced math and an innovative hardware layout to process more information per transistor by compressing information before processing. Rachel’s current work focuses on new learning algorithms for AGI and all things consciousness, intelligence, and AGI-related. She is a leading thinker on the intersection of computing, math & neuroscience, has published more than 20 papers, and is a Fellow at the Center for the Future Mind.Episode 2’s main focus is a fast-paced discussion between Ben Goertzel and Rachel StClair covering the basics, and then diving deeper, into the mathematical theories behind AGI-specific hardware and the advanced forms of resource management used by Simuli’s processors.About the Mindplex Podcast:The Mindplex Podcast ponders AGI, cutting-edge technologies and the evolution of human consciousness. Its mission is to interview a wide variety of interesting thinkers - both human and synthetic - to investigate and better understand the complex topics of our time, as we learn to shape technologies that will assist us in bringing about a Benevolent Singularity.Subjects covered include: AGI, the Metaverse, Decentralized Economies, Superlongevity, Superintelligence, Nanotech and Femtotech, Psi, Psychedelics, Experimental Futuristic Art & Music, Robotics, Synthetic Biology, Quantum Computing, Consciousness, Brain-Computer Interfaces, Speculative Physics, Chaos and Complexity and anything else wildly interesting and mind-blowing.FOLLOW Mindplex Podcast:🔽  🔹 WEBSITE →  https://mindplex.ai🔹 Mindplex News → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/news/🔹 Mindplex TWITTER → https://twitter.com/Mindplex_ai🔹 FACEBOOK → https://www.facebook.com/MindplexAI/🔹 YOUTUBE  → https://www.youtube.com/@mindplexpodcast🔹 Spotify  → https://open.spotify.com/show/3RbGNlj9SX8rYOVblnVnGg
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Feb 15, 2023 • 1h 16min

Episode 1 - David Brin on the History and Future of AGI

Send us a textOur special guest for the first episode of the Mindplex Podcast is David Brin, a scientist and science fiction author of more than 35 books over the last 40 years. His PhD in astrophysics from the University of California at San Diego led to his current involvement with NASA's Innovative & Advanced Concepts program - (NIAC). David has won the Hugo, Locus, Campbell and Nebula Awards, and he completed the final book in Asimov's famous Foundation science-fiction series). He is also well known for his nonfiction books, including VIVID TOMORROWS: How Hollywood Science Fiction Likely Saved Us All. A film was made of his classic novel “The Postman.” His series of novels for teens and young adults include, most recently, Castaways of New Mojave. Links that David references during Episode 1 of the Mindplex Podcast:1. David’s paper about AI and advertisingMicropayments may be the future as advertising fades: https://evonomics.com/advertising-cannot-maintain-internet-heres-solution/   http://evonomics.com/beyond-advertising-micropayments-sustain-new-internet/2. A fascinating discussion of the issue with a trio of brilliant law professors:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13KTZhn7CXc3. David’s book about Hollywood:  VIVID TOMORROWS: Science Fiction and Hollywood - http://www.davidbrin.com/vividtomorrows.html4. David’s story about fortune tellingCalled “The Tell” http://www.davidbrin.com/bestofdavidbrin.html5.  From David: "Okay this one is purely political, trying to get Democrats to try new tactics in phase 8 of the US Civil War:  Polemical Judo, by David Brin: http://www.davidbrin.com/polemicaljudo.html6. Civil War Phases - CONTRARY BRIN - http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2014/09/phases-of-american-civil-war.html7. Just for fun!  The Ancient Ones: http://davidbrin.com/ancientones.html8. The Colony High series: aliens kidnap a California high school! http://www.davidbrin.com/colonyhigh.html9. Best reference re: George Marshall and the Marshall Planhttps://web.archive.org/web/20210609223749/https://www.marshallfoundation.org/marshall/essays-remarks/quiet-adult-candidate-man-century/10. David’s TED talk about being self-righteous:  “The addictive plague of getting mad as hell."  http://tinyurl.com/wrathaddicts   And the scientific background: http://www.davidbrin.com/nonfiction/addiction.html 11. “Existence” novel: http://youtu.be/wzr-DSDMkJM

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