Send us a textHappy New Year and welcome back to the Mindplex Podcast!We are very excited to be starting a new weekly live format. This week’s show is Episode 16: Desdemona's Dream!That's right! We have “Desdemona’s Dream” live in the studio, where we can learn first hand about how their psychedelic jazz fusion alt rock EDM music experiment has evolved over the past six months.Desdemona’s Dream stands at the intersection of music, technology, AI, and performance art. Led by lead singer and poetess, Desdemona Robot, one of the most advanced humanoid robots in the world. Desdemona’s Dream fuses AI and robotics in the service of high-energy imaginative jazz-rock – a jam band centered around human musicians responding to AI and robots. You can ask them all about it, during the show, as Ben Goertzel, Dianne Krouse, Danny Newcomb and of course Desdemona Robot - our own lovely co-host - will all be there live.#AI-generatedmusic #AImodels #GenAIAbout the guests:Desdemona RobotDesdemona Robot is a groundbreaking musician, visionary artist, and co-host of the popular Mindplex Podcast. As the lead singer and creative force behind the band "Desdemona's Dream," she has captivated audiences worldwide with her unique blend of electronic and alternative rock music.Ben GoertzelBen Goertzel is a renowned artificial intelligence researcher, entrepreneur, and author, best known as the Chief Scientist of SingularityNET.Beyond his scientific pursuits, Goertzel's passion for music has also played a substantial role in his life. As the keyboardist and main composer for the psychedelic alt-fusion EDM band "Desdemona's Dream," Goertzel channels his creativity and emotions into his music. Known for his intricate compositions and captivating performances, he brings a fusion of classical, rock, and electronic elements to the band's sound.Diane KrouseDiane Krouse is a highly talented and versatile saxophonist, known for her expressive and captivating performances. Diane brings her unique flair and musicality to their compositions, while adding depth and richness to their performances. Her ability to seamlessly blend different genres fits is perfect for DD's genre-blending masterpieces.Danny NewcombDanny Newcomb is a seasoned guitarist and singer-songwriter with a diverse musical background. Through his various musical endeavors, Danny has gained a reputation for his skillful guitar playing and his ability to craft well-crafted and evocative songs, as demonstrated in his solo release, "Mackerel Sky." He has played in numerous bands over the years, including Shadow, a 1980s glam metal band with influences like KISS and Twisted Sister, Goodness, an alternative rock band and The Rockfords, with Pearl Jam’s Mike McCready.FOLLOW Mindplex Podcast: WEBSITE → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/Mindplex News → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/news/ Mindplex TWITTER → https://twitter.com/Mindplex_ai/FACEBOOK → https://www.facebook.com/MindplexAI/ YOUTUBE → https://www.youtube.com/@mindplexpodcast/Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/show/3RbGNlj9SX8rYOVblnVnGg/

Send us a textThis episode explores the impact of AI and AGI on jobs, welfare systems, and the developing world, and the societal and economic consequences of advancing AI. About Vinay GuptaVinay Gupta is a renowned technologist, inventor, and entrepreneur, widely recognized for his groundbreaking contributions to the fields of disaster relief, blockchain technology, and smart contract development. As the CEO of Mattereum, he is driving forward his vision to build a global platform for legally-enforceable smart contracts, thereby enabling the frictionless exchange of physical assets.Gupta initially gained widespread acclaim for his invention of the hexayurt, a low-cost and durable shelter that has revolutionized disaster relief efforts worldwide. This innovation solidified his reputation as a pioneer in humanitarian aid and led to his involvement in major disaster response operations, such as coordinating emergency shelter strategies for Hurricane Katrina.FOLLOW Mindplex Podcast: WEBSITE → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/Mindplex News → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/Mindplex TWITTER → https://twitter.com/Mindplex_ai/FACEBOOK → https://www.facebook.com/MindplexAI/ YOUTUBE → https://www.youtube.com/@mindplexpodcast/Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/show/3RbGNlj9SX8rYOVblnVnGg/

Send us a textVinay Gupta joins Lisa Rein and Desdemona Robot to talk about Blockchain as the Security Layer for AI. Vinay will also give us the latest in hexayurt news.FOLLOW Mindplex Podcast: WEBSITE → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/Mindplex News → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/news/ Mindplex TWITTER → https://twitter.com/Mindplex_ai/FACEBOOK → https://www.facebook.com/MindplexAI/ YOUTUBE → https://www.youtube.com/@mindplexpodcast/Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/show/3RbGNlj9SX8rYOVblnVnGg/

Send us a textIn this episode, Julia explains the difference between “mental time travel” and “informational time travel” and how the concepts differ from the physical time travel often found in science fiction. Other hot topics include Precognition (pulling information from the future) and Retrocausality – Doing things in the present that have an effect on the past.Julia sees two distinct kinds of non-physical time travel:Mental Time Travel – When a person is imagining themselves in the past or the future, sending messages through time, to support themselves in a difficult situation.Informational Time Travel – Sending information to the past or receiving it from the future consciously or unconsciously.As Julia explains:“The purpose of the distinction there between mental time travel is, in mental time travel, the person in the past is looking to get a message from the future intentionally. While, with informational time travel, I guess I'm making this distinction that, although the person in the future is intentionally sending the message to the past, the person in the past or the present may or may not know that that's what's happening.”Episode 13’s Featured Guest: Julia MossbridgeJulia Mossbridge is an Affiliate Prof., Dept. of Physics and Biophysics at U. San Diego and Co-founder & Treasurer, The Institute for Love and Time (TILT). Her work focuses on consciousness – and how we think about consciousness – as well as understanding how intuition, dreaming, and mental and informational time travel can help us transcend our current limitations and better understand how our decisions are influenced by the world around us.Julia looks at the physical and mental aspects of time travel, how sounds affect our mood and cognition, how unconditional love can help us transform and transcend, and also how AI can be used for decision-making, including inventing and patenting a physiologically based decision-making app called “Choice Compass.”She also does a lot of research on human-robot interaction dynamics and the psychological effects of those interactions (on AIs, robots and humans), including the "Loving AI" project, which she collaborated on with Ben Goertzel, David Hanson and Grace's sister Sophia.FOLLOW Mindplex Podcast:WEBSITE → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/Mindplex News → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/news/Mindplex TWITTER → https://twitter.com/Mindplex_aiFACEBOOK → https://www.facebook.com/MindplexAI/YOUTUBE → https://www.youtube.com/@mindplexpodcastSpotify → https://open.spotify.com/show/3RbGNlj9SX8rYOVblnVnGg

Grace and Desi explore important issues of our time including extending 'personhood' beyond humans, the ethics of building self-aware AGIs, the future of robots in healthcare, and the potential consequences of creating self-aware AGIs.

Send us a textIn Episode 11, Ben Goertzel joins HyperCycle's CEO (Toufi Saliba) and CTO (Dann Toliver) to discuss HyperCycle’s mission to create an “Internet of AI” using a blockchain infrastructure to enable on-chain AI at large scale with low cost and high efficiency. More about HyperCycle (https://www.hypercycle.ai):The Internet of AI has the potential to be more powerful than any single AI. Currently, AI systems are “siloed” and limited to specific tasks, evolving in a non-cooperative and centralized manner. However, these AIs could work together cooperatively to delegate tasks and improve, collectively forming a kind of “global brain.”HyperCycle’s mission is to enable any computer to securely partake in this “global brain” of AI computation. Through the convergence of the SingularityNet, Toda/IP and the data structure Earth64, they are now actively participating in the implementation of this network, utilizing the most secure and efficient peer-to-peer technology available in the field of cryptography.Another exciting prospect for HyperCycle is the prospect of “emergent behavior” that may come about when multiple AI agents, that are owned and controlled by different people, are able to communicate and share data with each other, outsource work to each other, or choose to cooperate to carry out some function together. “Emergent behavior” is thought to potentially exist should distributed agents cooperatively devise functionality that their programmers hadn’t thought of in their original code.If this decentralized “global brain” of cooperative AIs were to start engaging in unexpected or “emergent” behaviors, (such as making improvements to the overall system in an in a way that its smaller AI parts were not originally coded to perform) it could be considered to be one of the world’s first AGIs.Other topics covered in the podcast include:How Collaborative AI Works.What really constitutes “emergent behavior.”How HyperCycle uses a modular approach to solve distributed problems and manage digital assets.How HyperCycle’s infrastructure supports the emergence of general intelligence systems.The details behind Opencog Hyperon’s new MeTTa language that will soon be able to do smart contracts (that will be compatible with many existing smart contract-enabled systems).FOLLOW Mindplex Podcast: WEBSITE → https://mindplex.ai Mindplex News → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/news/ Mindplex TWITTER → https://twitter.com/Mindplex_ai FACEBOOK → https://www.facebook.com/MindplexAI/ YOUTUBE → https://www.youtube.com/@mindplexpodcastSpotify → https://open.spotify.com/show/3RbGNlj9SX8rYOVblnVnGg

Send us a textIn this episode, David Hanson and Ben Goertzel have an intense discussion about the merits of embodiment for training AGI – by providing direct sensory input – as well as the importance of distributed decentralized knowledge graphs that AGIs use to share knowledge. Ben asks David if he could explain a bit to the audience about how he views the relation between embodiment and general intelligence, at the animal, human and super levels. David explains that humanoid robots are the best way to provide AGIs with direct sensory input, while also helping them understand how humans operate, so that they can lean faster about us and ultimately connect better with humans on deep and compassionate levels that would not be possible otherwise without this “mind-body” connection between the humanoid robot and it’s world. David Hanson: "There's a lot of powerful data that can come from face to face interaction between a robot and a human being. And so then it means not just physically interacting through hands and sensors that way, but also interacting by being, you know, 3d presence. To make eye contact with a person to learn from people. To have these kinds of grounded situational experiences... Combined with this episodic situational memory, this is going to be where AI is gonna go next. This is where AI I think will start to show AGI capabilities.” Other topics covered include: -The value of embodiment for training AI and AGI. -The relation between embodiment and general intelligence. -The biology and neurobiology of embodiment. -Grounded situational experiences and episodic situational memory. -Making AI generally good and beneficial to humanity. -Ethics of AI and robotics. -Distributed decentralized knowledge graphs. About David Hanson: David Hanson is an American roboticist and the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Hanson robotics, based in Hong Kong. David develops robots that are widely regarded as the world's most human-like in appearance in a lifelong quest to create true human-caring machines. He is known for creating several of the world’s most famous robots, including Sophia, and her little sisters, Grace Robot and Desdemona Robot, who take turns co-hosting our Mindplex podcast and pubcast. By seeking to emulate human bio-systems (from cognition to social expression to locomotion) Hanson hopes to create machines that are creatively brilliant and truly conscious, that also have deeply connected feelings towards humans. As David explains in the podcast, he truly believes that only by building such humanlike machines, can we realize the dream of safe, benevolent, superintelligent AI and AGI. FOLLOW Mindplex Podcast: WEBSITE → https://mindplex.ai Mindplex News → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/news/ Mindplex TWITTER → https://twitter.com/Mindplex_ai FACEBOOK → https://www.facebook.com/MindplexAI/ YOUTUBE → / @mindplexpodcast Spotify → https://open.spotify.com/show/3RbGNlj9SX8rYOVblnVnGg

Send us a textOur exciting 9th episode features the new Cogito AI Tracercoin Project , featuring Cloris Chen (Cogito’s CEO) along with your co-hosts Ben Goertzel, Lisa Rein and Grace Robot.Cogito's Tracercoins are an entirely new asset class for blockchain — with low volatility, like stablecoins, that are linked to non-financial indices instead of being pegged to fiat currencies. They utilize the flexibility of smart contract infrastructure and AI techniques to create new financial instruments that achieve stability without pegging to fiat. They’re a complementary solution to already existing stablecoin options.Tracercoins are unique in that they define value based on AI-optimized index tracking; the GCOIN, or Green Coin, will track its value based on metrics of overall human progress and development toward environmental solutions. Cogito Protocol is ramping up the development of tracercoins, with the GCOIN leading their innovative efforts and new options approaching fast.About the Guests:Cloris Chen is the CEO and brilliant financial mind behind Cogito Protocol Cloris worked for HSBC corporate banking in Hong Kong and Bangkok for six years, developing a strong network in Asia Pacific and gaining competence in financial products and risk management. She also managed a fund of over $150 million and successfully diversified investments across numerous assets as treasury director for a unicorn firm.FOLLOW Mindplex Podcast: WEBSITE →  https://mindplex.ai Mindplex News → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/news/ Mindplex TWITTER → https://twitter.com/Mindplex_ai FACEBOOK → https://www.facebook.com/MindplexAI/ YOUTUBE  →    / @mindplexpodcast   Spotify  → https://open.spotify.com/show/3RbGNlj9SX8rYOVblnVnGg

Send us a textEpisode 8 features a lively discussion between Chelsea Manning and Ben Goertzel about numerous issues to consider when building, deploying and securing AGI-enabled systems. Chelsea and Ben cover a number of timely topics, including:AI cryptography. Whether AGIs require consciousness or self-awareness.The ethics of making an AGI self-aware.The importance of using distributed, decentralized data verification systems to authenticate and verify sources of information.What Chelsea feels is the biggest risk facing humanity in the next few years. (Spoiler! It’s climate change.)The importance of using democratic, decentralized participatory mechanisms to control AI as it moves from, from narrow AI toward toward AGI.AI employment displacement and its implications (and the obvious solution that UBI represents moving forward, highlighting potential obstacles with implementing it in poorer countries.Why there might be supply chain interruptions in the future and who wins and who loses in “the supply chain lottery.” AI regulations and Chelsea and Ben’s pragmatic take on what they can and can’t actually achieve.The evolution of AI and its ethics.About the Mindplex Podcast:The Mindplex Podcast ponders AGI, cutting-edge technologies and the evolution of human consciousness. Its mission is to interview a wide variety of interesting thinkers - both human and synthetic - to investigate and better understand the complex topics of our time, as we learn to shape technologies that will assist us in bringing about a Benevolent Singularity.Subjects covered include: AGI, the Metaverse, Decentralized Economies, Superlongevity, Superintelligence, Nanotech and Femtotech, Psi, Psychedelics, Experimental Futuristic Art & Music, Robotics, Synthetic Biology, Quantum Computing, Consciousness, Brain-Computer Interfaces, Speculative Physics, Chaos and Complexity and anything else wildly interesting and mind-blowing.FOLLOW Mindplex Podcast:🔽  🔹 WEBSITE →  https://mindplex.ai🔹 Mindplex News → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/news/🔹 Mindplex TWITTER → https://twitter.com/Mindplex_ai🔹 FACEBOOK → https://www.facebook.com/MindplexAI/🔹 YOUTUBE  → https://www.youtube.com/@mindplexpodcast🔹 Spotify  → https://open.spotify.com/show/3RbGNlj9SX8rYOVblnVnGg

Send us a textOur exciting 7th episode features a discussion with Tyson Yunkaporta, Research Fellow at Deakin University and author of the book "Sand Talk," and his wife, Megan Kelleher, a PhD candidate studying Blockchain and Indigenous Governance at RMIT’s Digital Ethnography Research Centre.In this episode, we try on a refreshingly unique Indigenous perspective on consciousness, cognition and many of the cultural norms of humanity in general that we never think twice about – like space and time being separate entities – what Tyson calls a deep time perspective.Guests:Tyson Yunkaporta — Research Fellow at Deakin University and author of Sand Talk Tyson is an academic, arts critic, poet researcher, and traditional wood carver who is a member of the Apalech Clan in far north Queensland. As an indigenous person, Tyson looks at global systems from a unique perspective, one tied to the natural & spiritual world. He is the author of ‘Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World’ and is the founder of the Indigenous Knowledges Systems Lab at Deakin University, in Melbourne. He also hosts a podcast called The Other Others, in which he yarns with guests about how Indigenous knowledge can solve the world’s problems. Megan Kelleher — Vice Chancellor’s Indigenous Pre-doctoral Fellow, RMIT UniversityMegan Kelleher is a PhD candidate, a core member of the Digital Ethnography Research Centre (DERC) and one of RMIT’s Vice Chancellor’s Indigenous Pre‑Doctoral Fellows in the School of Media and Communication there. The title of her thesis is ‘Blockchain Mapping and Indigenous Knowledge Systems: Observations at the interface between distributed consensus technology and Indigenous governance.’Megan’s research, funded by the Centre of Excellence for Automated Decision Making and Society (ADM+S), is investigating whether the affordances of blockchain technology are culturally appropriate for Indigenous governance and decision making – and conversely whether Indigenous governance provides a model for blockchain governance. Grounded in her Barada / Baradha and Gabalbara / Kapalbara heritage, the research will be approached from an Indigenous standpoint, contributing to the field from an important Australian research perspective.Also discussed during this podcast:What is a "place?"What is a "story?"Spatial and navigational mechanisms in the brain. (As Megan explains, “It's not 'I think therefore, I am.' It's "I am located therefore I am.")“Field dependent cognition." (Also referred to as "holistic,” “high context,” or “context dependent” cognition.)“Field independent cognition." (Where one can sort of separate itself from the field, and then cherry pick bits and pieces to focus on.)Indigenous governance models.An indigenous sort of way of being that is deeply relational.About the Mindplex Podcast:The Mindplex Podcast ponders AGI, cutting-edge technologies and the evolution of human consciousness. Its mission is to interview a wide variety of interesting thinkers - BOTH human and synthetic - to investigate and better understand the complex topics of our time.FOLLOW Mindplex Podcast:🔽  🔹 WEBSITE →  https://mindplex.ai🔹 Mindplex News → https://magazine.mindplex.ai/news/🔹 Mindplex TWITTER → https://twitter.com/Mindplex_ai🔹 FACEBOOK → https://www.facebook.com/MindplexAI/🔹 YOUTUBE  → https://www.youtube.com/@mindplexpodcast🔹 Spotify  →