

Main Justice
MSNBC
Main Justice is the next era of legal analysis from Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord, the veteran lawyers behind the hit podcast Prosecuting Donald Trump. As the criminal cases against Trump wind down and his new administration comes to power, Andrew and Mary draw on their extensive experience working within the Department of Justice to break down what’s happening inside Trump’s DOJ. Each week, they use their platform on Main Justice to safeguard against assaults on our laws, our Constitution, and our democracy.
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Mar 25, 2025 • 56min
Lawyers, State Secrets, and Signal Chats
The discussion kicks off with a major law firm bending to Trump’s demands, showcasing the chilling effects on legal practices. They explore the implications of the Trump administration defying court orders, especially regarding Venezuelan deportations and due process. The conversation dives into the controversial use of Signal chats for sensitive information, highlighting gross negligence in national defense. Legal ethics and the balance of secrecy in national security are examined, along with the risks of mishandling classified materials.

Mar 18, 2025 • 1h
Constitutional Showdown
Last Friday, President Trump spoke before a gathering at the Department of Justice to lay out what was seen largely as a grievance fest, singling out individuals and media organizations he perceives as his enemies. Main Justice hosts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord lay plain the unorthodox nature of a speech like this, especially before a department that is meant to maintain independence from the executive branch. But that was just the start of a wild weekend, after Trump invoked the Alien Enemies Act to deport hundreds of Venezuelan migrants, just as a court order blocking their removal was filed. So, Andrew and Mary tackle the latest developments in several buckets before breaking down the Supreme Court’s consideration of the request by the president to lift the pause on his birthright citizenship executive action.Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts.

Mar 11, 2025 • 54min
Standing Upright in the Wind
After news this weekend that Columbia student and permanent legal resident Mahmoud Khalil was arrested by ICE agents, hosts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord explain the petition filed from his lawyer and the significance of his case as a harbinger of things to come, as a hearing is set over the effort to deport him. Then, they shift focus to the Trump administration’s continued attacks on law firms and universities themselves, after the president cut federal funding to Columbia, and Georgetown was rebuked by the DC US Attorney for teaching principles related to diversity, equity and inclusion. Last up, Andrew and Mary review the latest in the Eric Adams case, with a shocking court filing containing texts from prosecutors, and they break down a few cases making their way through the courts right now: some of which have been touched by SCOTUS, others likely on their way to the High Court.Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts.

Mar 6, 2025 • 33min
Listen to "Trumpland with Alex Wagner: Hold the Line"
As a bonus for listeners, we’re sharing this week's episode from "Trumpland with Alex Wagner" on attorneys general and their legal battles against Trump's agenda. Numerous lawsuits are underway as efforts ramp up to fight against the Trump administration’s agenda, with the charge led by a select group of attorneys general. On this episode, Alex Wagner heads to Phoenix, Arizona where Democratic state attorneys general organized a town hall for citizens impacted by Trump’s executive orders and DOGE’s targeting of the federal government. Alex speaks directly with some of the AGs behind these legal efforts, including Kwame Raoul of Illinois, William Tong of Connecticut, and Letitia James of New York. Then she sits with Arizona AG Kris Mayes, the organizer of the town hall, for a look at what’s next as these attorneys continue to advocate on behalf of the U.S. Constitution and the citizens it protects.Follow and listen to the whole series here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trumpland-with-alex-wagner/id1638974657

Mar 5, 2025 • 48min
We Are Here
In this week’s Main Justice episode, hosts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord explore a disturbing pattern of the Trump administration’s attack on lawyers and what it means for the rule of law, as firings and demotions continue to reverberate around the federal government. They examine the firing of the three top nonpartisan military JAG lawyers without cause— and why Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth referred to these officers as ‘roadblocks’. They look at Trump’s decision to revoke security clearances from a law firm with ties to former Special Counsel Jack Smith. And they update a few cases on their radar, to include the firing of Hampton Dellinger as well as the latest in the case against New York City Mayor Eric Adams. And before closing, Andrew and Mary zoom out to look at how the Trump administration is redefining the US’s role in world, after voting against a UN resolution that condemned Russian aggression in Ukraine, ignoring violations of international law.Further reading: Here is the latest statement from the ABA that Andrew spoke about: The ABA rejects efforts to undermine the courts and the legal profession.And here is a link to the letter Andrew and Mary talked about in this episode: A Statement of Conscience and Principle By Those Who Have Served as Assistant United States Attorneys For the District of Columbia Over the Past Fifty Years.Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts.

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Feb 26, 2025 • 51min
A Shell Game
The discussion kicks off with a deep dive into Judge Dale Ho's hearing on Eric Adams' dismissal, highlighting its broader implications. They reveal the drama behind Denise Cheung's resignation from the DC US Attorney’s office, raising ethical questions. Next, they tackle the Supreme Court's decision regarding Trump's firing of Hampton Dellinger, emphasizing the tension between DOJ statements and Elon Musk's actions. Finally, the hosts unpack the complexities of executive authority and First Amendment issues, shedding light on media biases and the legal landscape.

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Feb 19, 2025 • 56min
A Choke Chain
Tensions rise as federal prosecutors clash with the DOJ’s directive to drop corruption charges against NYC's Mayor. This leads to unexpected resignations and speculation on the implications for political oversight. In a twist, the hosts preview a pivotal Supreme Court case addressing presidential powers over independent agencies. They also highlight alarming whistleblower allegations against a potential FBI head, intensifying scrutiny on political appointments. The interplay of law and politics unfolds with gripping complexity.

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Feb 12, 2025 • 55min
It’s Five O'Clock Somewhere
Pam Bondi's whirlwind memos set the stage for gripping discussions on national security and criminal law. The hosts dissect ongoing legal challenges against controversial orders from the Trump administration, especially around sanctuary cities. They dive into a court case protecting places of worship from immigration enforcement, stressing First Amendment rights. The abrupt dismissal of corruption charges against NYC Mayor Eric Adams also gets a thorough examination, revealing complexities within today's legal landscape.

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Feb 10, 2025 • 36min
Listen to “The Blueprint with Jen Psaki”
Wes Moore, the Governor of Maryland, Rhodes Scholar, and veteran, shares his insights on Democratic politics and personal patriotism. He discusses the importance of communicating policy impacts on everyday lives, particularly for young Black and Latino men. Moore advocates for a return to authenticity in political engagement and how football unites communities. He emphasizes the need for Democrats to reclaim patriotism, inspiring hope through historical resilience while navigating the meaningful actions versus spectacle in politics.

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Feb 5, 2025 • 55min
“Everything Everywhere All at Once”
The hosts dive into the Trump administration's controversial strategies, revealing a trend toward executive overreach. They highlight the implications of the the unitary executive theory and its impact on Congress. The discussion includes significant cases like Youngstown, showcasing the intricate balance of powers. They also investigate the upheaval within the Department of Justice and its effects on investigations, emphasizing the necessity of accountability in governance. Ongoing legal battles and the chaos of federal funding are critically analyzed, revealing deeper insights into the current political landscape.