

The Good Citizen Podcast
Joshua Hershberger: Attorney | Minister | Speaker
Equipping Christians to be Gospel-Centered Citizens in Post-Christian America
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Aug 12, 2025 • 45min
#388 How to Build and Maintain Strategic Church-State Partnerships with Greg Baker
Over more than a decade, Greg Baker and his team at the Church Ambassador Network in Iowa have built personal relationships with governing officials, ministered to them, and partnered with them for the common good. These efforts have led to a remarkable partnership with Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds and HHS Secretary Kelly Garcia, including county and statewide tours to build collaboration between churches and state leaders and the launch of statewide ministries. And Greg and his team are now replicating these efforts in more than twenty states. Here’s an update on these efforts and practical advice and encouragement to build partnerships between these two God-ordained institutions (church and government) in your sphere of influence.
Key Takeaways:
The latest update on the efforts of the Church Ambassador Network in Iowa and especially the Breaking Bondage tour.
The unique relationship with HHS Director Kelly Garcia and the importance of favor over influence.
How CAN developed its focus on foster care and key strategies for inspiring the church to engage this issue.
The remarkable work of the The Daniel Impact around the country.
How Greg maintains his energy and creativity in ministry.
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Aug 5, 2025 • 37min
#387 Life After Roe: Equipping Christians in the Fight for Life Today with David Closson
What’s next in the stand for life? In 2022, the Dobbs case overturned Roe v. Wade and sent the issue of abortion back to the states. Now, more than twenty states have abortion bans; but a surprising number of pro-abortion ballot measures have succeeded–even in state such as Ohio, Michigan, Arizona, and Nevada. And this exposed more than just political opinion as exit polling showed that 1 in 3 self-identified weekly church-going Catholics and Evangelicals voted to enshrine abortion in the Ohio constitution. Now, the issue of the abortion pill is taking center stage as the pill accounts for most abortions; and religious leaders are pushing pro-abortion arguments in the media and in churches. With these developments in mind, how should Christians respond? In his recent book Life After Roe, David Closson explains next steps in the stand for life; and, in this interview, we discuss the book and what Christians should focus on in the coming years.
Key Takeaways:
Key Biblical passages to review in discussions about life.
The importance of church leaders and discipleship in the local church.
Recent developments in the stand for life.
Where Christians should focus their effort now.
Preview of his dissertation on an important topic.
Links:
David Closson Bio
David’s Book: Life After Roe: Equipping Christians in the Fight for Life Today
David’s Previous Podcast Appearance
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Jul 29, 2025 • 48min
#386 The Importance of Persistence in Public Life with Paul Smith
Success in the public square is often measured in years or even decades and can be temporary without continued vigilance and effort. This is why persistence is a critical quality for those engaged in public life, and Paul Smith is an encouraging example of this dedication. In this interview, I talk with Paul Smith, the founder of Citizen Impact, about his efforts in supporting Christian education, a more than ten year efforts to protect religious freedom in Georgia, and a remarkable story about 9/11.
Key Takeaways:
How God called Paul into public square ministry.
A remarkable story about praying outside the White House during 9/11.
The path to passing the Religious Freedom Restoration Act in Georgia.
How he supports Christian education.
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Jul 22, 2025 • 42min
#385 Acts 25
In Acts 25, Paul once again stands trial for his life before a Roman governor. Accused of sedition against Rome and blasphemy against the temple, Paul uses this trial to assert his innocence, witness to the Resurrection, and appeal directly to Caesar so that the gospel will go to Rome. How does Paul deal with pauses or waiting in ministry, and how does he confidently stand and witness to the Resurrection each time he is tried for his life? And how does the hatred of the Council and the corruption or reluctance of the Roman governors play directly into God’s plan of redemption? All of that and more in this remarkable chapter.
Big Idea: The early church carried the gospel throughout the known world in approximately 30 years and transformed an empire in 3 centuries. Now the church seems intimidated, uncertain amidst swift cultural changes. So, what did the early Christians, commanded by Christ and empowered by the Holy Spirit, do that we are not doing? Here are their Acts, and may they inspire our own.
Outline:
The Kingdom Comma
Paul’s Appeal
The Power Couple
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Jul 18, 2025 • 47min
#384 Pastors and Politics; Review of Key 2025 SCOTUS Decisions
The Internal Revenue Service included a critical clarification in a court filing last week concerning pastors and politics. In sum, the IRS stated that a pastor or church speaking about political issues and even candidates to its members does not violate the tax code or jeopardize the church’s tax-exempt status. In this episode, I review what this does and does not mean for churches, as well as some practical considerations for churches following this clarification. Also, I review several key Supreme Court cases and include some thoughts on the legal and cultural trends they represent. Key Cases:
Link to court filing concerning pastors and politics:
Review of Catholic Charities Bureau V. Wisconsin Labor
Review of Medina v. Planned Parenthood
Review of United States v. Skrmetti
Review of Ames v. Ohio Department of Youth Services
Review of Oklahoma Statewide Charter School Board v. Drummond
Review of Mahmoud v. Taylor
Review of FSC v. Paxton
Review of Trump v. CASA, Inc.
Key Takeaways:
Deference to states and the democratic process.
The importance of standing up for truth amidst cultural pressure and uncertainty.
The importance of and opportunity for legal innovation.
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Jul 8, 2025 • 44min
#383 How to Live a God-Centered Life in the Public Square with Dr. Josh Moody
What are the most effective methods for cultivating a Biblical worldview amidst the constant influence of media, culture, and technology? What lessons about spiritual renewal can we learn from the life and times of Jonathan Edwards? What challenges do Christian students face in secular higher education, and how should we practically live out our faith in the public life? In this interview with pastor and theologian Josh Moody, we cover these topics and more with a practical emphasis on disciple-making in a quickly changing culture and practical application of God’s Word to all of life.
Josh Moody (Ph.D., University of Cambridge) is the senior pastor of College Church. He is the president and founder of God Centered Life Ministries, which proclaims God’s Word worldwide through daily broadcasts on Moody Radio, One Place, podcasts, and live streaming on godcenteredlife.org. He is a theologian shaped by his research in understanding the challenges of the secularization of the Enlightenment to Christian faith and the answers that influential pastor Jonathan Edwards brought, culminating in a doctorate in historical theology from Cambridge University. He did a research fellowship at Yale Divinity School and was a Fellow at the Jonathan Edwards College of Yale University.The post #383 How to Live a God-Centered Life in the Public Square with Dr. Josh Moody first appeared on The Good Citizen Project.

Jul 1, 2025 • 34min
#382 4 Facts about the 4th of July [Encore]
Since we celebrate the 4th of July every year (and it involves fireworks and time off work), it is easy to glance over the deeper meaning of the holiday. Beyond the fact that it marked the birth of the United States, why should we celebrate the 4th of July? What did and does it mean? And what lessons should we draw from it as we look to the future?
Here are 4 facts about the 4th of July and some reflections on America’s present and future.
It was improbable.
It was impressive.
It was imperfect (think “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare…”).
It is in peril.
Links:
Link to the state of abortion bans in the United States since the Dobbs case.
Link to the Crucible of War on the Seven Year’s War and the events that led up to the War for Independence.
Link to Frederick Douglass: Prophet of Freedom.
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Jun 24, 2025 • 34min
#381 Acts 24
In this chapter, the Apostle Paul stands alone and on trial for his life before a corrupt and powerful Roman official, Antonius Felix. How will the high priest and their representative lay out their case against him? How will Paul respond, and what will Felix make of Christ and the Resurrection? In this high-stakes story, we can learn much about our public witness, inner strength and peace, and pointing all people (including governing officials) to the hope of the gospel.
Big Idea: The early church carried the gospel throughout the known world in approximately 30 years and transformed an empire in 3 centuries. Now the church seems intimidated, uncertain amidst swift cultural changes. So, what did the early Christians, commanded by Christ and empowered by the Holy Spirit, do that we are not doing? Here are their Acts, and may they inspire our own.
Outline:
The Accusations
Paul’s Justifications
A Procrastination
Key Takeaways:
Don’t slander or flatter officials.
Know God’s peace in the midst of crisis.
Don’t procrastinate on spiritual decisions.
Don”t forget your witness.
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Jun 17, 2025 • 45min
#380 The Fatherless Epidemic and How to Respond with Sean Teis [Encore]
Father’s Day weekend is an important reminder of the role of dads in the lives of their children, and it is always encouraging to see the number of good role models on social media. However, our society has grappled for some time with a fatherless epidemic, and its impact is staggering. Here is an overview of the causes and consequences of fatherlessness and some practical steps for churches and committed Christians to make a difference.
The impact of fatherlessness in our society is staggering. For example, according to the Department for Health and Human Services, 85% of youth in prison or some form of incarceration grew up in a fatherless home. This is not meant to disparage the heroic efforts of single moms or downplay the success of many children who are growing up or grew up in a home without a dad. But, if we are to successfully reverse the breakdown of the family and impact a host of societal ills, this issue of fatherlessness stands out as a critical and often overlooked root cause. In this episode, I discuss the fatherless epidemic and how to respond with Sean Teis. He has a powerful personal testimony and leads God is My Dad, a ministry dedicated to serving fatherless families and equipping churches to do the same.
Key Takeaways:
The heartbreaking and eye-opening statistics related to the effects of fatherlessness.
The fact that Scripture often refers to the “fatherless” as (Jer.5:28; James 1:27)
A link to the website and tools referenced in the interview.
A policy brief setting out stats and trends concerning fatherlessness.
How you and your church can help.
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Jun 10, 2025 • 45min
#379 The Challenge to Parental Rights in Colorado with Pastor Tate Throndson
Pastor Tate Throndson leads a growing church he planted in Colorado, and he developed strong concerns about a recent Colorado bill challenging parental rights (HB 1312). In addition to preaching on Biblical principles related to identity and human sexuality, he signed up and showed up to testify against HB 1312—along with more than 700 other Coloradans. In this interview, Pastor Throndson explains why and how he engages in public life, how he disciples his congregation in the area of citizenship, his experience at the Colorado State Capitol at the hearing on HB 1312, and why other church leaders and committed Christians should promote Biblical principles in their churches and in the public square.
In late March of 2025, legislators in the Colorado House of Representatives made national news by introducing HB 1312—a bill that ominously defined the act of a parent referring to a child according to that child’s biological sex as “coercive control.” This bill also allowed a trial court to withhold parenting time and even make custody determinations based on “deadnaming” (using a child’s birth name) or “misgendering” a child. Some of these startling provisions were removed from the bill before final passage by the Colorado Senate, but the bill still adds “deadnaming” and “misgendering” to Colorado’s nondiscrimination law. And Colorado Governor Polis recently signed the bill into law.
Key takeaways/links:
HB 1312 as introduced
HB 1312 as signed
Two members of Castleview Baptist Church talk about their experience at the hearing on a parental rights bill
Lawsuit by Colorado parents challenging HB 1312
Lawsuit by clothing company challenging HB 1312
Camp IdRaHaJe Lawsuit
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