The Good Citizen Podcast

Joshua Hershberger: Attorney | Minister | Speaker
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Oct 21, 2025 • 59min

#398 Politics According to the Bible with Dr. Wayne Grudem [Encore]

Dr. Wayne Grudem, a prominent theologian and author, explores the intersection of faith and politics. He discusses the motivation behind his book, Politics According to the Bible, emphasizing the need for a biblical perspective on government. Grudem reflects on his unique experiences, such as a White House visit, and stresses the importance of Christian engagement in local politics. He also highlights the impact of Christian influence on the judicial system and warns against passivity, urging believers to preach the whole counsel of God in all aspects of life.
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Oct 14, 2025 • 46min

#397 Reflections on the Aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s Assassination

Photo: Members of the Hoosier Leadership Series, an effort of Indiana Family Institute, praying in front of the US Capitol after hearing about Kirk’s assassination on September 10, 2025. A little over a month has passed since Charlie Kirk’s public assassination at Utah Valley University, and much has transpired since. Thousands of prayer vigils and memorials have been held, TPUSA has reported over 121,000 requests to start new campus chapters, many churches are reporting a surge in church attendance (especially among young men), and many members of Gen Z and Gen Alpha are speaking up about their faith and political beliefs. I have interacted with a number of church leaders around the country in the last month and prayed over and thought through Kirk’s life and legacy, his memorial service, and other developments since in an attempt to understand and steward the moment. Here are a few reflections: A tale of two movements. Spiritual renewal or conservative resurgence? Or both? Courage, persuasion, and influence as the way forward. The post #397 Reflections on the Aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s Assassination first appeared on The Good Citizen Project.
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Oct 7, 2025 • 56min

#396 Religious Liberty: A Conservative Primer with Dr. John Wilsey

Given the continuing debate on religion’s impact in American public life and especially discussions about Christian nationalism, it is important to review America’s unique approach to church/state relations and its principled commitment to religious liberty. In this interview, Dr. John Wilsey sets out the history of religious freedom as Biblical principle and conservative idea and the harmony between the “spirit of freedom” and the “spirit of religion” observed by Alexis De Tocqueville in his travels in early America. Then, he he chronicles key thinkers and movements in modern conservatism and explains the Biblical motivations behind religious liberty as rooted in the gospel and created order. Curious about the intersection of church and state or the proper application of faith in public life? Interested in the history of Christian citizenship and the conservative movement? This episode is for you. John D. Wilsey is professor of church history and chair of the Department of Church History and Historical Theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. He is also a research fellow with the Center for Religion, Culture, and Democracy. His publications include American Exceptionalism and Civil Religion: Reassessing the History of an Idea, God’s Cold Warrior: The Life and Faith of John Foster Dulles, and Religious Freedom: A Conservative Primer. Key Takeaways: The pivot into apathy by many Christian citizens. “[Anglo-American civilization] is the product … of two perfectly distinct elements that elsewhere are often at odds. But in America, these two have been successfully blended, in a way, and marvelously combined. I mean the spirit of religion and the spirit of liberty.” -De Tocqueville. A working definition and history of conservatism and the impact of Biblical principles on the movement. A review of the Biblical case for religious liberty. The post #396 Religious Liberty: A Conservative Primer with Dr. John Wilsey first appeared on The Good Citizen Project.
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Sep 30, 2025 • 35min

#395 How Your Church Can Help Fight Human Trafficking with Allison Madrigal

According to US and UN statistics, an estimated 27.6 million people are victims of human trafficking at any given time. And a majority of human trafficking victims in the United States are US nationals–meaning they are groomed, coerced, and trafficked on US soil. Because this an international and national issue and trafficking is often difficult to identify and stop, many churches and individual Christians are unsure exactly how to engage in the fight against human trafficking. Rescue America identified this need and provides practical ways for churches and even individual Christians to get involved. Here is the remarkable story of the ministry, how it fights back against human trafficking, and how you and church can make a difference. In 2014, armed with a dream and her years of business-world experience, Allison Madrigal and a team of volunteers launched a 24/7 rescue hotline dedicated specifically to victims of sex trafficking and sexual exploitation. This ministry model proved so effective that it eventually expanded nationwide and currently facilitates safe exits for survivors and sets them safely on a path of healing and restoration. Key takeaways: The heartbreaking stats about human trafficking and how this impacts victims in the United States. The remarkable story of Rescue America. Rescue America’s model of rescue, revive, and empower. How churches and individual Christians can assist the work of the ministry. The post #395 How Your Church Can Help Fight Human Trafficking with Allison Madrigal first appeared on The Good Citizen Project.
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Sep 23, 2025 • 53min

#394 Acts 27

After experiencing several trials for his life, the Apostle Paul now heads west on an all-expense-paid trip courtesy of the Roman empire. But this journey, like so many others taken by Paul, will not be without peril and ministry opportunity. In a chapter that evidences remarkable historical detail about Roman-era ship-building and maritime travels, Paul turns from captive to captain as he faces an endless storm and almost certain death, stands strong in the midst of crisis, and witnesses to the God he serves. In a time of change and loss, there is no small comfort here in Acts 27. Outline: An Imperial Cruise The Storm The Shipwreck Key Takeaways and Questions: Where is your Rome? The remarkable detail of Roman-era ships and sailing practices. A review of the centurions in the New Testament. How the Apostle Paul handled a crisis. Are you Jonah or Paul? The post #394 Acts 27 first appeared on The Good Citizen Project.
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Sep 16, 2025 • 47min

#393 How to Discern a Call into the Law, Protect Vulnerable Kids, and Defend Religious Freedom with Peter Gentala

One of the goals of this podcast is to provide practical examples of Christians living out their calling in public life. Peter Gentala has led a remarkable career in law and public policy that spans litigating cases to the U.S. Supreme Court, working to protect kids and those impacted by sexual abuse and exploitation, and now leading a public policy organization in Arizona–all while raising eight kids alongside his wife Allison. In this episode, we explore Christian calling and navigating job and even season changes, Peter’s work with Alliance Defending Freedom in litigating religious defense cases, his time at Kidhelp and the National Center on Sexual Exploitation, and then his most recent role as the President of Center for Arizona Policy. In this discussion, he provides a wealth of insights about leadership, family life, law, and public policy. By far, the best thing about Peter is that he is married to Allison Gentala. Peter and Allison have been married for 27 years. Their greatest love, joy, and pride is their eight children. Peter’s professional lifework focuses on the intersection between law and policy. He has litigated constitutional, public-law, and victim-advocacy cases at every level of the federal court system, including two cases decided by the Supreme Court of the United States. In the realm of public policy, he has served as professional staff to elected lawmakers and has authored or co-authored countless pieces of proposed and enacted legislation, including state constitutional provisions. For his full bio, click this link. Key Takeaways: His call into the law and public policy. How he balances family and professional life. His work defending religious freedom. How to protect vulnerable kids from exploitation. Thoughts on the current cultural and political climate and what Christians should focus on now. The post #393 How to Discern a Call into the Law, Protect Vulnerable Kids, and Defend Religious Freedom with Peter Gentala first appeared on The Good Citizen Project.
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Sep 9, 2025 • 31min

#392 The National Debt Crisis and How to Respond with Indiana State Comptroller Elise Nieshalla

As of September 2025, the U.S. gross national debt stands at almost $37.5 trillion with a growth of over $2 trillion in the past year and an average growth of roughly $5.7 billion per day. And earlier this year, Moody’s downgraded the U.S. credit rating to Aa1 (down from Aaa), citing concerns over the rising debt and ambitious fiscal proposals. With these developments in mind, what can and should be done to secure America’s financial future? In this interview, Indiana’s State Comptroller (a statewide elected office equivalent to a Chief Financial Officer) Elise Nieshalla explains Indiana’s path from a nearly $800 million deficit to a AAA credit rating and one of the lowest debt levels in the country, what other states and the country can learn from Indiana’s example, and her efforts as the Chair of the National Debt Crisis Task Force of State Financial Officers. Elise M. Nieshalla is the Indiana State Comptroller, fulfilling the duties of the Constitutional Office of State Auditor. Prior to becoming the State Comptroller, Nieshalla served as President of the Boone County Council and President of the Indiana County Councils Association. In addition, Comptroller Nieshalla was the Chairwoman of the Association of Indiana Counties 2023 Legislative Committee and was honored to be named 2018 Indiana County Councilor of the Year. As a hard-working entrepreneur and economic development professional, Comptroller Nieshalla has worked over 20 years in real estate overseeing property acquisitions and business management for a portfolio of investments. From managing and appropriating funds within her local county budget to compiling the State of Indiana’s Annual Comprehensive Financial Report, Comptroller Nieshalla has a proven record of trusted fiscal stewardship of hard-earned tax-payer funds. She is also a strong proponent for the essential combination of transparency and fiscal responsibility to undergird our birthright of freedom. Comptroller Nieshalla earned a bachelor’s degree from Oral Roberts University and a master’s degree from Indiana University where she also taught as an adjunct faculty member in the O’Neill School of Public and Environmental Affairs. She resides with her husband, Chris, in Zionsville where they have raised their four children. She also serves as the Chair of the National Debt Crisis Task Force of State Financial Officers. Key Takeaways: Her call into public life and what inspires her to serve the Hoosier state in elected office. Indiana’s example of eliminating debt, working back to a position of strength, and maintaining its AAA credit rating and low debt levels. Why the national debt matters and must be addressed now. Comptroller Nieshalla’s efforts as the Chair of the National Debt Crisis Task Force of State Financial Officers, including a letter to President Trump and Congress signed by 37 state financial officers concerning the national debt. How concerned citizens should advocate for financial stewardship at the state and national level. The post #392 The National Debt Crisis and How to Respond with Indiana State Comptroller Elise Nieshalla first appeared on The Good Citizen Project.
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Sep 2, 2025 • 30min

#391 The Latest in the Pronoun Wars with Craig DeRoche

What happens when a teacher’s faith collides with a school’s pronoun policy? I recently had the opportunity to join Craig DeRoche on The SoConCon Report to discuss the case of John Kluge. In 2018, Kluge resigned from Brownsburg Community School in Indiana after his religious exemption to a pronoun policy was revoked. His case is now headed to a jury, and the outcome could set a powerful precedent for religious liberty in classrooms nationwide. In this episode, we unpack why this case matters for teachers, parents, and people of faith, and what it means for the future of religious freedom in America’s schools, including: ·     Religious freedom at stake: Kluge’s fight against a school pronoun policy could shape how schools across the country handle faith-based accommodations. ·     Legal insights: Why the court’s rejection of the school’s “emotional distress” claim is a key turning point. ·     National implications: The outcome of this case may set a precedent for teachers, public employees, and people of faith navigating similar cultural battles.The post #391 The Latest in the Pronoun Wars with Craig DeRoche first appeared on The Good Citizen Project.
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Aug 27, 2025 • 41min

#390 Our Civilizational Moment: The Waning of the West and the War of the Worlds with Os Guinness

In his recent book, Os Guinness explains why the West is facing a “civilizational moment” or a critical inflection point due to our civilization’s loss of connection to its founding principles and inspiration. And he points out that history records only three roads from here: renewal due to rediscovery of founding principles, replacement of those founding ideals, or decline and fall. How did we end up here? And which way will we go? In this interview with author and social critical Os Guinness, we walk through the challenges and opportunities of our “civilizational moment” and explore ways that we can individually and collectively work toward renewal. Os Guinness is an author and social critic. Great-great-great grandson of Arthur Guinness, the Dublin brewer, he was born in China in World War Two where his parents were medical missionaries. A witness to the climax of the Chinese revolution in 1949, he was expelled with many other foreigners in 1951 and returned to Europe where he was educated in England. He completed his undergraduate degree at the University of London and his D.Phil in the social sciences from Oriel College, Oxford. Os has written or edited more than thirty books, including The Call, Time for Truth, Unspeakable, A Free People’s Suicide, The Global Public Square, Last Call for Liberty, Carpe Diem Redeemed, and The Magna Carta of Humanity.  Key Takeaways: Link to Our Civilizational Moment. What made America great in the first place. The greatest challenges to the American republic now. His thoughts on the early signs of spiritual renewal in the West. His thoughts on America’s global role in this century. What church leaders and other committed Christians can do to renew our cities and country. The post #390 Our Civilizational Moment: The Waning of the West and the War of the Worlds with Os Guinness first appeared on The Good Citizen Project.
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Aug 19, 2025 • 43min

#389 Acts 26

In his last, powerful sermon in the book of Acts, Paul retells his encounter on the road to Damascus (with a key detail not mentioned in previous accounts of his conversion in Acts 9 and 22), connects the Old Testament prophets to the gospel of Christ, and turns from prisoner to prosecutor as he questions Herod Agrippa II about his belief in Jesus. As one commentator put it, the “king of the Jews…hear[d] about the King of the Jews.” There is much to learn here about personal evangelism, boldness, belonging, and God’s providence as Paul takes the gospel from Jerusalem to Rome. Outline: A 4th Defense Paul’s Best Story The Great Call Key Takeaways: The odd story of Agrippa II and Bernice. A comparison of the 3 accounts (in Acts) of Paul’s conversion and why they are different. An exploration of Paul’s evangelism methods. His remarkable exchange with Agrippa II and Festus, and the conclusion of his ministry in Caesarea. The post #389 Acts 26 first appeared on The Good Citizen Project.

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