

Product Confidential: The reality of PM life!
Product Confidential
Being a Product Manager is no easy job. There is so much information on how to do Product well, but we all know that the reality of executing on this is different. We’ll be bringing you a host of Product Managers to talk about the highs, and lows, of their career - and how they’ve overcome the challenges they’ve faced. So whether you’re looking to enter the PM career, learning how to overcome some of these challenges yourself, or just want to grab a bevvy and listen to a bit of PM therapy - we’re here for you.
Hosted by Michael Palmer (BBC) & Evie Brockwell (Product Consultant & Coach)
Hosted by Michael Palmer (BBC) & Evie Brockwell (Product Consultant & Coach)
Episodes
Mentioned books

Nov 6, 2023 • 34min
011 | Leanne Gill on the ups, downs & successes of Agile Transformation.
This week we were joined by Leanne Gill, an Agile Transformation expert. Leanne has worked across a range of organisations to help them to become more Agile, and grow in their product maturity.
In this episode we discuss:
- How to successfully go through agile transformation
- How to bring your team on the journey with you
- How Agile looks different in every organisation
- How to pick your battles as you work through Product Maturity
It's a great listen for any Product person looking to grow Agile maturity in their team, or in their wider business.
We all know that it's not always easy to bring other people on the journey of to do Product well! So grab a bevvie, and find some comfort in hearing the highs and lows of someone else driving positive product change!

Oct 23, 2023 • 52min
010 | Graham Reed: A deep dive into Product Operations & Mental Health for PMs
In our latest episode, we were excited to be joined by Product Operations expert, and positive mental health advocate - Graham Reed.
Have you heard all about Product Operations this year? But you're not quite sure what it entails, or how it can add value?
Graham shares all of these insights, talks through the practicalities of doing Product Operations well, and the importance of defining exactly what Product Operations is in the ever-changing Product landscape.
Graham is also the founder of the Product Mind Community. A growing community that exists to support PMs with their mental health, something that we have covered on many of our episodes and know is crucial to people in our industry. Graham shares his experience with this, and how the community is supporting PMs to have a safe space to sharing everything Product related.
We hope you enjoy.
As always, like, subscribe & leave a review if you do!

Oct 8, 2023 • 40min
009 | Andy Walsh on the jump from product to programme management
Andy Walsh is currently a Senior Product Manager at the BBC. Having previously worked as both a product manager and a programme leader at the Department for Education. In this episode, Andy reflects on what it was like making the jump from being a product manager into being a a manager of product managers, including what he feels are the transferable skills. Andy also shared why he’s made the decision to go back into straight up product management in his new role at the BBC. This episode is great for anyone considering entering leadership and is full of top tips.

Sep 25, 2023 • 40min
008 | Darinka Burovska covers Product Discovery, Cultural Differences & Digital Nomad Life.
We were super excited to be joined by Darinka Burovska on our latest episode of Product Confidential.
Darinka is a Product Discovery superstar, with knowledge on how to implement best practises across the world.
In this episode we explore how to best develop Product Discovery in your organisation, how to carry out discovery across cultures & we talk about what it is really like to be a digital nomad - and perhaps how you could make this lifestyle work for you!
Darinka has a load of interesting stories to share and really is an inspiration in the way that she lives her life and works with Product teams.
Enjoy! & as ever, subscribe and review if you do.

Sep 11, 2023 • 44min
007| George Manea on High Performing Teams
Evie and Michael catch up with George Manea, Senior Product Manager at MoneySuperMarket.
The central topic is high performing teams as George covers what traits they posses as well as sharing some aspirational goals for anyone trying to create one.
The conversation also explores what it's like working for MoneySuperMarket taking a deep dive into what makes their culture successful before taking a look at George's unique career path that took him from working in a recycling factory through to where he is today with lots of interesting steps and lessons along the way.

Aug 28, 2023 • 58min
006 | Nick Jemetta on Mental Health, Mindset & Human Skills
We're joined by Nick Jemetta for an amazingly educational and inspiring episode. Nick's mission is to make the workplace 1% better each day. He brings to life a tonne of experience from mental health to digital transformations to achieve this with different organisations.
In this episode Nick speaks about:
His own mental health journey, opening up a conversation about our experiences
How to talk to others about mental health
The top mindset that Product Managers can adopt
Human skills, and how you can learn them
& How to work on Digital Transformations
I'm sure you'll find so much value in this episode, and will be able to relate to a what of what we chat about.
As ever, if you find it helpful - please leave us a glowing review!
Books:
Never split the difference - Chris Voss with Tahl Raz
A path through the jungle - Steve Peters
Others:
Pockets of Brilliance - Pippa Topp

Aug 17, 2023 • 1h 4min
005 | James Whitman talks about Product Culture, Burnout & the Beauty of Pivoting Early.
Evie and Michael here. In our latest episode, we're joined by James Whitman. James is Head of Product at Reach, and a Product Coach. James shares his Product journey, his experience in creating an amazing Product Culture in his team, and how to make decisions and have conversations about the tricky topic - pivoting a Product / feature when it is not working. We also talk about burnout and how to manage your own time and boundaries to help prevent this.
Enjoy the show and, if you enjoy the show, please remember to subscribe or leave a review.

Jul 31, 2023 • 53min
004 | Ekaete Inyang on building Data Products, working with stakeholders and leveraging influence.
We're joined in our latest episode by Ekaete Inyang for an extremely fun chat about:
How she transitioned from Publishing to Product Management
Our knowledge, insights and learnings on how to work with different stakeholders and leverage influence
Ekaete provides amazing insights on the whats and hows of building data Products.
Enjoy! & if you do, please leave us a review and spread the word.
Evie & Michael.

Jul 17, 2023 • 47min
003 | Adil Hussain talks about the associate PM role and non-traditional routes into product
In this episode, Adil Hussain chats to Evie and Michael about..
What it was like starting off as an associate product manager
Early stage PM career advice
His work with Muslamic Makers
And why and how he set up his own product course, Productology!
Sit back, enjoy and

Jul 3, 2023 • 60min
002 | Niko Noll talks about Product Discovery, LinkedIn and Freelancing
Evie and Michael here. In our second episode, we're joined by a great guest - Niko Noll. Niko is a freelance product discovery consultant with an impressive history of helping companies improve their product discovery practice. Niko shares some of his journey into this role, some amazing product discovery tips and gives some great advice on why it's benefitial to build your personal brand on LinkedIn. We also try out a new feature in which they learn what our guests are reading or the last thing they've learnt that's helped them in their craft.
Enjoy the show and, if you enjoy the show, please remember to subscribe or leave a review.
Show notes
Niko's book recommendation -
'The Minimalist Entrepreneur: How Great Founders Do More with Less' by Sahil Lavingia
Michael mentions 'Inspired' by Marty Cagan


