Sounds Strategic

International Institute for Strategic Studies
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Mar 19, 2020 • 39min

Episode 32-The rise of urban conflict, future concepts of war and threats to peace in Afghanistan

In this episode of Sounds Strategic, Antonio and Meia are joined by David Kilcullen, Professor of International and Political Studies at the University of New South Wales in Canberra, and former special adviser to the US Secretary of State between 2007 and 2009. Over the past five years, the world has witnessed some of the largest city-based battles since World War Two. The sieges of Mosul in Iraq and Aleppo in Syria indicate that urban warfighting is to become a key feature of future conflicts. As a result, David argues, traditional Western military doctrine needs to adapt to meet the new challenges of asymmetric urban conflict.David also discusses why the very concept of ‘war’ may become an area of diplomatic tension as China and the West disagree on what constitutes ‘war-like behaviour’, even in peace time.Finally, Antonio, Meia and David explore some of the positive steps NATO has taken to integrate a whole-of-society approach to modern inter-state competition; the possible hazards of the Trump administration’s recent peace deal in Afghanistan; and the common misconceptions around what makes effective counter-insurgency policy.We hope you enjoy the episode but don’t forget to follow, rate and subscribe to Sounds Strategic on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Date of recording: 4 March 2020Sounds Strategic is recorded and produced at the IISS in London.Theme music: ‘Safety in Numbers’ by We Were Promised Jetpacks Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mar 5, 2020 • 42min

Episode 31 - China's naval modernisation and measuring effective military capabilities

James Hackett, Senior Fellow for Defence and Military Analysis, and Tom Waldwyn, Research Associate for Defence and Military Analysis, join Meia and Antonio for this episode to discuss the key trends in defence procurement and capabilities identified in the latest edition of The Military Balance, the Institute’s annual assessment of global military capabilities and defence economics. In recent years, China’s military shipbuilding output has consistently dwarfed that of other countries. Tom and James explain why China requires such an extensive military modernisation programme and identify the practical limitations these new Chinese capabilities may face.James also discusses the re-emergence of peer-to-peer and near-peer competition among the advanced militaries of the US, China and Russia, and what this means for modern international relations.Tom and James also explore the processes and challenges of open-source investigations, how they became interested in military analysis and their reading recommendations for other aspiring military and defence analysts.Reading Recommendations:Michael Howard, The First World War, (New York: Oxford University Press, 2002)Bruce Pascoe, Dark Emu: Black Seeds: Agriculture or Accident?, (Victoria: Magabala, 2014)Orr Kelly, King of the Killing Zone: The Story of the M-1, America’s Super Tank, (New Tork: W.W. Norton, 1989)We hope you enjoy the episode and don’t forget to follow, rate and subscribe to Sounds Strategic on wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Feb 20, 2020 • 44min

Episode 30: Understanding the history that Donald Trump’s Middle East peace plan ignores

Sir Tom Beckett, Executive Director of IISS−Middle East, joins podcast hosts Meia Nouwens and Antônio Sampaio for this episode of Sounds Strategic.Tom, Meia and Antônio discuss how countries in the Middle East have reacted to United States President Donald Trump’s proposed plan for Israeli−Palestinian peace. Their discussion also highlights why the peace plan might be difficult to implement. Tom gives a short description of the history of the Middle East and examines the role of non-state armed groups in the region, highlighting the recently published IISS Strategic Dossier Iran’s Networks of Influence in the Middle East. Tom, Meia and Antônio also discuss the role of the US and its policy position towards the region at a time when Middle Eastern countries are looking to diversify their relations for the sake of economic protection. Finally, Tom and Meia briefly touch on China’s interests in the region and Chinese arms exports to the Middle East.We hope you enjoy the episode and don’t forget to follow, rate and subscribe Sounds Strategic wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jan 31, 2020 • 32min

Episode 29: President Xi’s terrible year: Taiwan, Hong Kong and the coronavirus

In the first episode of the new season of Sounds Strategic, Robert Ward welcomes his new co-hosts Meia Nouwens and Antônio Sampaio on to the podcast.During the episode they discuss the recent election results in Taiwan, the protests in Hong Kong and how the recent coronavirus outbreak has impacted China’s economy and Taiwan. Taken together, these crises have brought new challenges for China’s president, Xi Jinping, suggesting that 2020 may prove to be an especially difficult year for the Chinese leader.New co-hosts Meia and Antônio also reveal their most challenging piece of work at the IISS and what their fantasy research project would be.We hope you enjoy the episode and don’t forget to follow, rate and subscribe Sounds Strategic wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jan 10, 2020 • 34min

Episode 28: Will China become the new Japan?

In her final episode as host of Sounds Strategic, Kori Schake is joined by the new director of the IISS Geo-economics and Strategy programme and Japan Chair, Robert Ward.During the episode, Kori and Robert discuss how ageing demographics and economic stagnation severely undercut the optimism that surrounded hopes for Japan’s economic future in the late 1980s. Robert goes on to assess whether China risks following Japan’s path or if there are sufficient differences between the two East Asian countries for China’s economy to continue its growth into the 21st century. Kori and Robert also highlight the vital importance of geo-economics as a means of understanding contemporary international relations, diplomacy and statecraft, and the possible consequences of the increasing bifurcation of the global economy. Finally, Robert explains why the idea that China is carefully following a detailed hundred-year plan towards world domination is the myth that he would most want to dispel from the popular discourse. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Dec 19, 2019 • 32min

Episode 27: The beginnings of a new bipolar world?

Bill Emmott, Chairman of the IISS Trustees, joins Dr Kori Schake for this episode of Sounds Strategic.From President Trump’s questioning of traditional US allies and commitments, to growing Russian and Chinese influence in international and regional affairs, 2019 has seen a further erosion of the liberal world order established after the Second World War. In this end-of-year special, Bill Emmott and Kori Schake discuss the challenges the liberal rules-based order has faced over the course of 2019, both from within and without. Bill argues that middle powers such as Japan, France and South Korea may have to adapt to an emerging ‘G2’ world where US–China competition determines relations between states. Kori and Bill also discuss the differences between the regimes of Vladimir Putin’s Russia and Xi Jinping’s China, South Korean and Japanese politics, as well as the need for reinvigorated German leadership in the EU.Date of recording: 9 December 2019Sounds Strategic is recorded and produced at the IISS in London.Theme music: ‘Safety in Numbers’ by We Were Promised Jetpacks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Nov 29, 2019 • 28min

Episode 26: Understanding the new political geography of the Middle East

In this special episode, Kori Schake, Deputy Director-General of the IISS, leads a panel of experts to reflect on the major themes of the debate at the IISS Manama Dialogue 2019.Opening the discussion is John Raine, Senior Adviser for Geopolitical Due Diligence, who addresses the changes to the political geography of the Middle East already underway and what they mean for the myriad of internationalised challenges the region is currently facing.Hasan Alhasan, IISS Associate Fellow, notes the deepening geo-economic relationship between the Gulf and Asia, and especially China and India. One challenge Hasan foresees is how Gulf states will effectively convert these burgeoning economic relationships into greater diplomatic and security support from Asian countries. Senior Fellow for Middle East Security, Emile Hokayem, stresses the need to avoid complacency at a time of intense instability in the region. For Emile, battlefield dynamics continue to determine outcomes far more than political processes. Until the various geopolitical competitions being played out across the Middle East are resolved, Emile predicts instability will likely continue. Finally, Bastian Giegerich, IISS Director of Defence and Military Analysis, voices his concerns over NATO as it struggles with a series of internal challenges that have limited its ability to reassure its partners in the Middle East and to present a unified front against pressing regional concerns.Date of recording: 24 November 2019This episode was recorded at the IISS Manama Dialogue in Bahrain.Theme music: ‘Safety in Numbers’ by We Were Promised Jetpacks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Nov 25, 2019 • 33min

Geopolitical unease in the Middle East and diversity in policymaking - #IISSMD19 Special Episode

In this special episode recorded at the IISS Manama Dialogue 2019, Kori Schake is joined by Tamara Cofman Wittes, Senior Fellow at the Center for Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution, and Maggie Feldman-Piltch, Founder and Managing Director of #NatSecGirlSquad, for a fascinating and wide-ranging conversation.Recent popular protests in Lebanon and Iraq have shaken the Middle East. Such political turmoil suggests a deep level of dissatisfaction with the status quo in these, and many other, countries in the region. In the cases of Iraq and Syria, government mismanagement and corruption have been perpetuated by external interference by either Iran or Russia, or both. For Maggie, Tamara and Kori, such interference has been, in part, enabled by a general retreat from the region by the US that has allowed emerging powers such as Russia, Iran and even China, to flex their soft power credentials. As Maggie and Tamara argue, the rise of these revisionist powers has profound implications not only for regional governments seeking reliable partners, but it also impacts the information that everyday citizens receive and the opinions they form.Both Maggie and Tamara also talk about the vital importance of diversity and inclusivity in the creation of robust and sustainable national security and defence policy. Whether by modernising recruitment practices or empowering aspiring policymakers, all three women stress the need for greater female inclusion and ‘competent diversity’ in the field of national security. This episode also includes a discussion on the re-emergence of nationalism in response to Russian and Iranian intervention in the region and the key changes required in US Middle East policy to refocus strategic thinking and reassure its allies. Reading recommendations:‘Inclusion and Diversity’, The Brookings Institution (2019) ‘Tehran’s strategic intent’, Iran’s Networks of Influence in the Middle East (London: IISS, 2019) Date of recording: 22 November 2019This episode of Sounds Strategic was recorded at the IISS Manama Dialogue in Bahrain.Theme music: ‘Safety in Numbers’ by We Were Promised Jetpacks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Nov 21, 2019 • 29min

Episode 25: Perfect asymmetry: Iran’s networks of influence in the Middle East

In this special episode of Sounds Strategic, John Raine, Senior Adviser for Geopolitical Due Diligence, and Kori Schake have an in-depth discussion about the new IISS Strategic Dossier, Iran’s Networks of Influence in the Middle East, and what its findings mean for understanding security in the Middle East today.As the report shows, Iran has meticulously spread its influence across the Middle East since the establishment of the Islamic Republic in 1979. It has done this through a huge variety of relationships with state and non-state groups. It has taken advantage of instability in Iraq following the US invasion in 2003 and has become a vital guarantor for the Assad regime in Syria. In Lebanon and Yemen, it has partnered with non-state groups to further its own strategic objectives. Looking at these networks collectively, as the IISS Strategic Dossier does, it is clear that Iran has curated a comprehensive strategic ‘sovereign capability’ that has been carefully resourced, financed and supported by the Iranian government and one that Iran’s rivals have been unable to counter. During the episode, John Raine and Kori delve further into what this strategic capability means for regional security, the balance of ‘effective force’, the possible risks and limitations of such a capability and what Iran’s rivals can do to counter it. John and Kori also discuss the recent protests in Lebanon and Iraq, and how they may in fact represent a powerful reaction to Iran’s overly effective spread of influence into the Arab world.Recommended reading:‘Tehran’s strategic intent’, Iran’s Networks of Influence in the Middle East, (London: IISS, 2019) Date of recording: 11 November 2019Sounds Strategic is recorded and produced at the IISS in London.Theme music: ‘Safety in Numbers’ by We Were Promised Jetpacks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Nov 7, 2019 • 26min

Epsiode 24: The geopolitical impacts of China's cybersecurity and espionage

Dr Greg Austin, Senior Fellow for Cyber, Space and Future Conflict, joins Dr Kori Schake for this episode of Sounds Strategic.As the race to roll out 5G intensifies between China and the United States, Greg and Kori discuss China’s use of cyber espionage and private companies in pursuit of its geopolitical interests and the effect it has on China’s reputation. Greg explains the Cyber, Space and Future Conflict’s new methodology to assess states’ capabilities to use cyber as an offensive weapon, exploring the initial findings from a case study on China. Greg discusses how the “cyber industrial complex” can be understood as a web of political, economic, industrial and scientific relationships and assets, noting that the ICT sector provides a majority of the US’ GDP. He debunks the common conception that China is a leader in cybersecurity, noting that China’s cyber defences are weaker than those of the US and its allies. He highlights that China is actually reliant on US companies to provide cyber protection. Greg and Kori explore how Western media and discussion on China’s power only serves to reinforce China’s propaganda and messaging.Date of recording: 25 October 2019Sounds Strategic is recorded and produced at the IISS in London.Theme music: ‘Safety in Numbers’ by We Were Promised Jetpacks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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