

Buddha at the Gas Pump
Rick Archer
Conversations with spiritually awakening people.
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Jan 15, 2018 • 1h 46min
437. Natalie Sudman
Natalie Sudman is an author, artist and psychic intuitive. Natalie worked as an archeologist in the Great Basin states for 16 years before accepting a position managing construction contracts in Iraq. In 2007 Natalie was injured by a roadside bomb. During this incident, she had a near-death experience that she details in her book Application of Impossible Things. After recovering from her injuries, Natalie retired from government service to concentrate on art and writing, both long-time passions. Raised in Minnesota, Natalie has lived most of her adult life in eastern Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota. She now lives in southern Arizona.
Facebook Page
Book: Application of Impossible Things: A Near-Death Experience in Iraq
Discussion of this interview in the Batgap Community Facebook Group.
Transcript of this interview.
Interview recorded January 14, 2018
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
00:03:48 - Psychic Abilities and Childhood Experiences
00:07:49 - The Spiritual Nature of Doing
00:11:12 - Downloading Information on the Stage
00:14:30 - The Perception of Time in the Non-Physical Realm
00:18:10 - Leaving Room for Uncertainty
00:21:33 - The Multi-Dimensional Nature of Life
00:25:22 - Communing with Beings in a Stadium-like Setup
00:29:46 - Regaining Consciousness and Memories
00:32:55 - The Functions of Different Beings
00:37:38 - Expanded Awareness
00:41:53 - Handling Perception and Concentration
00:45:29 - Cultivating Focus in Sports
00:48:46 - Playing with Possibilities
00:52:28 - Finding Value in Difficult Experiences
00:56:27 - Trusting the Reasons for Choosing
01:00:19 - Enhanced Confidence in Psychic Readings
01:04:28 - The Influence of Consciousness in Reality
01:08:49 - The Value of Consciousness and Perspectives
01:12:11 - Choosing Injuries for a Purpose
01:15:40 - A New Perspective on the World
01:19:14 - The Change in Relationship with Entities
01:23:23 - The Power of Individual Influence
01:26:55 - The Value of Challenging Experiences
01:31:09 - Cultivating Balance and Peace
01:35:06 - Non-attachment and the Erasure of Fear
01:38:40 - Fear of Life and a Broad Perspective
01:42:47 - Pondering the Universe and Free Will
01:46:37 - The Nature of Knowledge and Awareness
01:50:28 - Cultivating Abilities and Application of Impossible Things
01:53:47 - Farewell and Thanks to Natalie Sudman

Jan 3, 2018 • 2h 7min
435. Lesley Skylar
A completely spontaneous, life-altering experience of satori or enlightenment shook Lesley Skylar’s world at about age 9 or 10. Everything, in every facet, shifted unimaginably - nothing was ever the same again. This set her on a life course dedicated to understanding, honoring and living what had been revealed.
Lesley has spent years as a renunciate, living in ashrams and working deeply with direct teachings of enlightenment, in both the East and West. She has studied and practiced Zen Buddhism, Dzogchen and the Nonduality teachings of Ramana Maharshi and Nisargadatta Maharaj. She has a Degree in Psychology, has counseled, and worked in numerous non-profit, peace and human rights endeavors.
Lesley is a teacher of spiritual awakening. The approach and teaching she shares comes directly from her extensive experience and was developed and refined through her own realization. It is based on decades of integration and rigorous work with liberation teachings and realized teachers.
Her teaching offers individual or small group guidance for awakening, and also focuses specifically on the post-awakening terrain. Many are confused or struggle after awakening as they don’t realize that awakening is a beginning – it is not stabilized and abiding, involves a coming and going of clarity and higher states, a persistent self-sense, and incomplete seeing or depth. She helps people to move beyond the initial phases of awakening, to clarify and resolve sticking points, subtle aspects of identification, shadow, unconscious beliefs and so on. This creates a deepening, integrating and embodying, which allows liberation and enlightened living to unfold.
She has traveled extensively and lived in North America, Europe, Africa, and Asia. She is currently based in Vancouver, Canada. Lesley offers private sessions worldwide, via Skype/ online video or in person.
Learn more about Lesley and her work:
Website: lesleyskylar.com
Facebook:
facebook.com/lesley.skylar
facebook.com/From.Awakening.To.True.Liberation
Discussion of this interview in the Batgap Community Facebook Group.
Transcript of this interview.
Interview recorded December 30, 2017.
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - A Life-Altering Experience at Age 9
00:04:27 - A Deep Homecoming
00:08:02 - Leaving Everything behind
00:11:14 - A Life in Ashrams: Seeking Truth and Learning from Contradictions
00:14:58 - Personal Growth and Shadow Work
00:18:59 - The Magnification of Ego in Spiritual Contexts
00:22:20 - The Journey of Awakening and Deepening
00:25:58 - The Rockets Taking Off into Space
00:29:57 - Deep Purification and Holistic Transformation in Spiritual Practice
00:33:33 - Accessing Deeper States of Consciousness
00:37:40 - Living Outside the Bubble of the Self
00:41:30 - The Importance of Experience and Physiology in Spiritual Practice
00:44:46 - Surrendering to Your True Nature and Rewiring the Being
00:48:23 - The Importance of Coaching and Feedback in Practice
00:52:24 - The Joy of Practice and Self-Inquiry
00:56:10 - The Marvel of the Human Mind and Nervous System
01:00:35 - The Mystery of Being
01:05:22 - The Illusion of Selfhood
01:10:30 - The Illusion of Identity
01:15:01 - The Illusion of Self
01:19:51 - Questions from Tim in Canada
01:24:50 - Sticking around after enlightenment
01:30:00 - Expanding Awareness and Letting Go of Patterns
01:35:12 - Overcoming Boredom and Restlessness
01:39:59 - Resting in the Depth of the Ocean
01:45:04 - Overcoming the Egoic Patterning
01:49:10 - Practical Tips for Meditation
01:53:25 - The Clues in Your Point of View
01:58:27 - Engaging with Cosmic Intelligence
02:03:13 - Anyone Can Do It, Stick with It
02:07:42 - Ongoing Series: Explore the menus on batgap.com

Dec 30, 2017 • 1h 59min
434. Joi Sharp, 2nd Interview
Joi was aware of the unseen magic of Presence at a very early age. She remembers being more drawn to this mystery than anything else. This led her to delve into many traditions of spirituality. After a spontaneous awakening at age 28, Joi spent two years on a blissful honeymoon of Spirit before plunging into a deep period of emotional purging and healing. Among her healers were a powerful Lakota medicine man, with whom she traveled for two years, and a group of Yogananda disciples who had developed a powerful way of unlocking unconscious beliefs using kinesiology. She worked with them 3x/week for two years. During this period that the formless aspect of the Divine Mother appeared to Joi and she began a very intense journey.
Joi met Amma in 1993, and she realized that Amma was the same Mother that had captured her heart and soul. Joi spent nine years in Amma's Indian Ashram, and then two years in Tiruvannamalai at Ramana's Ashram.
When Joi came home from India, she was completely exhausted, and her "seeker drive" fell away. She began sitting with Adyashanti, who helped her understand all that had taken place within her being.
Joi began teaching in 2006, with Amma's and Adya's blessings. Joi continues to be inspired and moved toward what Life could be if we let go to our inner potential, which is the ultimate intelligence of all creation.
Joi's Website
Books:
Embodying the Infinite and the Dissolution of the Separate self: Stories, Transmissions and Ancient Vedic Knowledge for the Complete Liberation of Source Consciousness
Unpredictable Grace: My Adventure Recovering from Chronic Pain through Neuroscience and Quantum Mechanics
Discussion of this interview in the Batgap Community Facebook Group.
Transcript of this interview
First BatGap interview with Joi
Interview recorded Dec. 17, 2017.
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
00:03:43 - The Importance of Devotion and the Nervous System
00:07:11 - The Evolution of Devotion
00:11:15 - The Value and Sweetness of Devotion
00:15:38 - The Importance of Devotion and Inspiration
00:19:47 - The Deeper Intelligence Within Us
00:23:41 - The Validity of Wanting Awakening
00:27:52 - Discovering the Capacity for Devotion
00:32:11 - Radical Transformation through Association with Presence
00:36:10 - Neuroplasticity and the Transformation of the Brain
00:39:48 - Recognizing Presence within Ourselves
00:44:01 - Physiological Transformation Through Being
00:48:05 - The Capacity of Clarity
00:52:58 - Using Clarity to Purify and Heal
00:57:31 - The Subtle Beings Within Us
01:01:42 - The Evolution of My Relationship with Amma
01:06:15 - The Role of Teachers and Dependency
01:09:55 - Finding Clarity and Resonance
01:14:02 - Cultivating Discernment
01:18:06 - Strengthening the Muscle of Discernment
01:22:46 - The Importance of Openness and Personal Experience
01:26:53 - The Freedom of Not Having a Place to Rest Our Head
01:31:11 - The Integration of Form and Consciousness
01:35:33 - Moving towards a collective consciousness
01:39:33 - The Shift to a Many-to-Many Model
01:43:17 - The Satisfaction of Working with People
01:46:33 - The Gifts and Ordinary Life
01:50:55 - Importance of Solitude and Integration
01:54:50 - The Importance of Integration and Engagement
01:58:57 - Finding Intimacy Everywhere
02:02:22 - Farewell and Happy Holidays

Dec 24, 2017 • 1h 11min
433. John Samsen
When John Samsen first contacted us several months ago, he said, "I'm 90 years old, I've had both my feet amputated, and I've never been happier". We soon learned that John designed the Ford Thunderbird, Plymouth Barracuda, and other "muscle cars", and later had a profound and abiding spiritual awakening.
Over a course of many decades, John Samsen followed a quest to understand the “big questions” of Life; why are we here, what is Life all about, and who am I, really? Along with careers in Aerospace Engineering and car designing, John studied the sciences, mythologies, religions, philosophies, and psychologies, to expand his understandings. A pattern of paranormal experiences opened his mind to areas of experience beyond the paradigms of Science. In 1970, he embarked on a quest of Self Discovery, participating in hundreds of hours of intensive consciousness exploration with such noted researchers as Drs. Jean Houston and Robert Masters, Dr. Lawrence LeShan, Robert Monroe, and others involved in the “human potentials” movements of the 1970s.
After a series of traumatic events in his life, John experienced a “metanoia”, what some call a transformation or “awakening”. John's quest ended, and in the years since, he has been enjoying Life, knowing peace of mind, “unconditional love” of self and world, and freedom from fear and anxiety. John has been working on a verbal description of his experiences that does not rely on traditional metaphysical or religious ideas but is consistent with modern scientific concepts of space, time, matter, and energy. He believes that a dramatic experience of “awakening”, which is rare and very difficult to achieve, is not necessary for enlightened living; that with proper guidance and consistent effort, most people can achieve that state of being.
His Book: A Journey to Metanoia: My Life Transformed
You may email John.
More about John's automotive design career here and here.
Discussion of this interview in the Batgap Community Facebook Group.
Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.
Transcript of this interview
Interview recorded December 9, 2017.
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
00:03:07 - From Airplanes to Car Design
00:05:29 - Terrifying Experiences in the Realm of Geometric Principles
00:07:54 - Trance States and Otherworldly Experiences
00:10:22 - A Strange Flying Object
00:12:27 - Mysterious Events and Poltergeist Activity
00:14:59 - The Little Man in the Restroom
00:17:36 - The Encounter with the Weird Man
00:20:00 - The Breakdown and Regeneration of Belief Systems
00:23:08 - The Illusion of Reality
00:25:39 - A Blissful Awakening
00:28:15 - Happiness in the Face of Pain and Resistance
00:30:42 - A Shift in Perspective
00:33:19 - Trading Commodities and Design Work
00:35:30 - The Impact of Jean Houston's Workshops
00:38:09 - The Preciousness of Life and Growing Older
00:40:49 - The Decision of Euthanasia and Following a Deeper Mind
00:43:22 - A Vision of Love Energy
00:46:14 - The Evolutionary Trajectory of the Universe
00:48:45 - The Interaction of the Divine Intelligence
00:51:10 - The Nature of Opposites
00:53:17 - Embracing Diversity and the totality of existence
00:55:19 - Fear of Death and Valuing Life
00:57:30 - The Earth as a Host
00:59:56 - The Drive Behind Human Activities
01:02:13 - The Potential End of Human Life by the End of the Century
01:04:45 - The Possibility of Metanoia and an Enlightened World
01:07:07 - Motivation to Contribute
01:09:17 - Ordinary Spiritually Awakening People
01:11:26 - Journey to Metanoia
01:13:31 - Getting to Know the Guest Speaker

Dec 12, 2017 • 2h 1min
432. Paul Morgan-Somers
Paul was born in 1961 and lived most of life in the coastal county of Pembrokeshire, UK. He always loved the sea and aspired to be a professional football (soccer) player. One day, at the age of 15, while playing football, unbounded awareness dawned. Everything was the "ocean". He didn't know what this was, or whether anyone else had experienced it, but later on he discovered the Upanishads in a bookstore, which led to his joining a Vedanta Monastery for five years. For a time after that, he lived a hermit-like life. One day in meditation, a woman's name came to him. He had never heard of her, nor did he even know whether she existed, but he knew he would marry her. He later did, opened a gallery and had two boys. He now spends his time supporting the boys and their business and chatting about the ocean.
Facebook Page
Email Paul.
Discussion of this interview in the Batgap Community Facebook Group.
Interview recorded December 3, 2017.
Transcript of this interview
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
00:05:31 - Changing Sense of Identity
00:10:17 - Kundalini and Energetic Experiences
00:15:04 - The Beauty of Human Experience
00:20:02 - Assimilation and Adjustment Challenges
00:24:42 - Falling in Love with the Ocean and Finding Books
00:29:34 - An Old Monk's Experiences
00:34:02 - Shake-up of Central Structures of Authority
00:38:32 - The Limitations of Words and Language
00:42:25 - Non-verbal communication and the limitations of language
00:46:24 - Insecurity in Identity
00:50:21 - The Paradox of Movement
00:54:19 - The Process of Creative Intelligence
00:57:53 - The Importance of Individual Paths
01:01:37 - The Wholeness of Everything
01:05:36 - A Journey of Awakening
01:09:06 - The Power and Intoxication of Authority
01:12:58 - Power and Abuse in Spiritual Circles
01:16:28 - The Role of Teachers and Students
01:20:13 - The Power of Humility
01:24:29 - An Unexpected Journey
01:28:30 - The Nature of Reality in Words
01:32:03 - Conversations and Tea
01:36:02 - Chatting and Helping People with Awakening
01:39:45 - Unsettling Experiences and Fear
01:43:52 - Dancing in the Bedroom
01:47:47 - The Presence of Subtle Beings.
01:51:49 - The Paradox of Existence
01:55:52 - A Delightful Virtual Tea and the Dance of Words
02:00:04 - The form and the formless
02:03:41 - John Sampson: A Life of Fascinating Experiences

Dec 8, 2017 • 1h 59min
431. Kabir Helminski
Kabir Helminski is a Shaikh in the lineage of Rumi, and co-director of The Threshold Society. His translations of Rumi and books on spirituality, Living Presence and The Knowing Heart, have been published in at least eight languages. In 2009 and subsequent years Kabir was named as one of the "500 Most Influential Muslims in the World" by the Royal Strategic Studies Center (Jordan). He has toured North America as Shaikh with the Whirling Dervishes of Turkey bringing Sufi culture to more than 100,000 people. His latest book is Holistic Islam: Sufism, Transformation, and the Needs of Our Time.
Other books:
Love's Ripening: Rumi on the Heart's Journey
The Rumi Daybook: 365 Poems and Teachings from the Beloved Sufi Master
Discussion of this interview in the Batgap Community Facebook Group.
Transcript of this interview.
Interview recorded November 28, 2017.
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
00:04:11 - Inspiration and Exploration in the 60s
00:10:06 - Working with Contemplative Teachers
00:15:31 - Sufism and Islam: Distinguishing Between the Two
00:20:47 - Sufism and its Practices
00:25:49 - The Prophet Muhammad's Revelation and the Quranic Language
00:31:26 - Sufism and the Value of a Teacher
00:36:17 - Embodiment of Non-Dual Reality
00:41:05 - The Growing Awareness of Embodied Enlightenment
00:44:32 - The Knowing Heart and Spiritual Development
00:48:16 - Transformation through Love and Acceptance
00:51:50 - The Healing Power of Whirling
00:55:46 - The Whirling Dervishes: A Profound Spiritual Practice
00:59:24 - The Power of Spiritual Energies
01:03:03 - The Whirling Ceremony and the Revelation in the Sufi Tradition
01:06:58 - Self-awareness and servanthood
01:14:09 - The Stupidity of Spending a Year Doing Worthless Things
01:17:34 - Finding Mercy in Pain and Suffering
01:25:17 - The Assimilation of Deeper Reality
01:29:03 - The Essential Self and the Personality Self
01:33:01 - Plugging into the Divine Energy
01:36:21 - The Qualitative Development of the Human Being
01:39:50 - The Beauty of the Ritual
01:43:02 - Disorganizing Higher Energies
01:46:39 - The Beauty of Islam's Rejection of Idols
01:50:14 - The Love and Strictness of a Parent
01:53:37 - The Presence Within Us
01:57:16 - The Nearness to God
02:00:19 - Concluding Remarks and Farewell

Dec 4, 2017 • 1h 59min
430. Matthew Fox
Matthew Fox is a spiritual theologian, an Episcopal priest, and an activist. As a spiritual theologian he has written 34 books that have been translated into over 60 languages. Among them are Original Blessing, The Coming of the Cosmic Christ, A Spirituality Named Compassion, The Reinvention of Work, The Hidden Spirituality of Men, Christian Mystics, and The Pope's War. He has contributed much to the rediscovery of Hildegard of Bingen, Meister Eckhart and Thomas Aquinas as pre-modern mystics and prophets. Fox holds a doctorate in the history and theology of spirituality from the Institut Catholique de Paris. The founder of the University of Creation Spirituality in California, he conducts dozens of workshops each year and is a visiting scholar at the Academy for the Love of Learning in Santa Fe, NM.
In joining the Episcopal church over 20 years ago, Fox has been working with young people to reinvent forms of worship by bringing elements of rave such as dance, dj, vj and more into the Western Liturgy. The Cosmic Mass has been celebrated over 100 times and in dozens of cities in North America.
Fox is recipient of the Abbey Courage of Conscience Peace Award (other recipients being the Dali Lama, Mother Teresa, Ernesto Cardenal and Rosa Parks), the Gandhi King Ikeda Award, the Tikkun National Ethics Award and other awards.
His latest books are Order of the Sacred Earth: An Intergenerational Vision of Love and Action; Stations of the Cosmic Christ; and A Way to God: Thomas Merton's Creation Spirituality Journey. He teaches regularly at the Fox Institute for Creation Spirituality in Boulder, CO and resides in Vallejo, CA.
Discussion of this interview in the Batgap Community Facebook Group.
Transcript of this interview
Interview recorded November 11, 2017.
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
00:04:07 - The Everyday Buddha
00:08:31 - Democratizing the Mystical Experience and Contemplative Wisdom
00:13:09 - Taming the Reptilian Brain
00:17:28 - Celebrating Love as a Theophany
00:25:39 - Shifting Human Consciousness and its Impact on the Planet
00:30:08 - Laudato Si and the Destruction of Coral Reefs
00:33:59 - The Environmental Crisis
00:38:25 - The Impact of War and Peace
00:42:27 - Becoming an Episcopal Priest
00:46:14 - The Difference Between Spirituality and Religion
00:50:37 - The Beginnings of the Creation Tradition
00:55:17 - Creation Spirituality and the Cosmic Christ
00:59:15 - Cosmic Imagery in Religious Teachings
01:03:05 - The Immensity of Intelligence in Creation
01:06:56 - The Relationship Between Enlightenment and Compassion
01:11:00 - The Power of Denial and Its Consequences
01:14:50 - Chosen Ignorance
01:19:02 - The Four Paths of Spiritual Journey
01:23:06 - The Power of Compassion and Healing
01:26:50 - A Doctorate in Spirituality
01:30:35 - The Murder of Thomas Merton
01:34:18 - Merton's Mystical Experience in Downtown Louisville
01:38:15 - Reality and Metaphysics
01:43:03 - Joy and Consciousness in the Universe
01:47:06 - Sat-chit-ananda and the Joy of Creating
01:51:09 - Accessing the Inner Joy and Happiness
01:55:25 - The Intellect and Values
01:58:37 - Invitation to All Lifestyles and Traditions
02:01:42 - Thinking outside the box

Nov 30, 2017 • 1h 58min
429. Amoda Maa – 2nd Interview
Amoda Maa is a contemporary spiritual teacher, author, and speaker. After years of spiritual seeking, meditation, and immersion in psychospiritual practices, an experience of the dark night of the soul led her to a profound inner awakening. Then, after a long period of integration, she began speaking from silence in small gatherings. Today she offers meetings and retreats, and is a frequent speaker at conferences and events, attracting spiritual seekers and people looking for peace and fulfillment in an increasingly chaotic world. Her teachings are free of religion and tradition, and she brings to them a deep understanding of the human journey, born out of her own experience.
She is the author of Radical Awakening (originally released as How to Find God in Everything) and Change Your Life, Change Your World: Ten Spiritual Lessons for a New Way of Being and Living. Both books were written shortly after her awakening and before she began to speak in public.
Her new book Embodied Enlightenment — written 15 years after her awakening — is based on the many conversations at the cutting edge of spiritual inquiry in her meetings with people from all around the world, and addresses many of the questions relevant to today’s seeker. It has been acclaimed as “a beautiful and precious gift to an emerging new humanity.”
Amoda lives with her husband and beloved, Kavi, in New Mexico.
Website: amodamaa.com
Previous BatGap interviews with Amoda:
First Interview
Amoda Maa in panel discussion: Birthing Radiant Being into Our Humanity
Discussion of this interview in the Batgap Community Facebook Group.
Transcript of this interview
Interview recorded November 5, 2017
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
00:03:36 - Recognizing Spiritual Maturity
00:06:54 - The Maturation of Awakening
00:12:11 - The Natural State of the Nervous System
00:16:40 - The Ongoingness of Awakening
00:20:56 - The Impact of Awakening on Humanity
00:25:32 - The Passing on of Spiritual Awakening
00:29:16 - The Importance of Integrating Inner Divisions
00:33:49 - Returning to the Human Heartbreak
00:38:11 - The Wound of Aloneness
00:41:46 - Fear of Separation and Oneness
00:46:08 - Breaking Free from Victimhood in Relationships
00:49:53 - The Permeability of Boundaries in Oneness and Love
00:54:38 - Intimacy in Every Moment of Life
00:58:24 - The Energy of the Sexual Act
01:02:28 - The Art of Listening
01:06:08 - The Manifestation of Oneness in the Relative
01:10:21 - Becoming a Servant of Cosmic Intelligence
01:13:57 - The Maturation Process and the realization of no-self
01:18:43 - Integration of the Self and the No-Self
01:22:39 - Navigating the Tricky Inner Terrain
01:26:43 - Opening Spirituality to a Wider Audience
01:30:51 - Concepts and Intrinsic Reality
01:34:01 - The End of Division and the Catalyst for Change
01:38:03 - The Divine Feminine and the Infusion of Love
01:42:19 - Non-violence towards our inner experience
01:47:01 - Tenderness towards Loss
01:51:36 - The Clinging to Loss
01:56:07 - The Illusion of Punishment
01:59:17 - The Power of Direct Experience and Belief
02:02:48 - Conclusion and Thank You

Nov 26, 2017 • 1h 40min
428. Kittisaro and Thanissara
Kittisaro and Thanissara have been married since 1992. They spent 7 years as guiding teachers of the Buddhist Retreat Centre KwaZulu S. Africa and then went on to found Dharmagiri Sacred Mountain Retreat on the border of Lesotho and South Africa. They co-founded several HIV/Aids Outreach Programs and currently support Kuluingile Project, a home for children left vulnerable due to HIV/Aids run by Sister Abegail Ntleko, award winner of the Dalai Lama Unsung Hero Award. They lead retreats in S.Africa, UK, U.S.A and Israel and regularly host one to three-month retreats at Dharmagiri. They currently reside in Sebastopol, CA.
Kittisaro is from Tennessee, USA. He graduated from Princeton as a Rhodes Scholar. He ordained with Ajahn Chah in 1976 in the Thai Forest Tradition. He was a monk for 15 years and helped found several monasteries in the UK. His practice has also been informed by the Chinese school of Master Hua since 1980. Kittisaro completed two one year silent self retreats and is co-author of 'Listening to the Heart.' He has taught extensively since the 1980's and is a core teacher at Insight Meditation Society, MA, founding teacher of Chattanooga Insight, TN and affiliated teacher at Spirit Rock Meditation Center, CA.
Thanissara is from an Anglo-Irish family in London. She started Buddhist practice in the Burmese school in 1975. She spent 12 years as a Buddhist nun in the Forest Tradition of Ajahn Chah where she was a founding member of Chithurst Monastery and Amaravati Buddhist Monastery in the UK. Thanissara has an MA in Mindfulness-Based Psychotherapy Practice from the UK. She has taught extensively since the late 1980's, is the author of several books, including two poetry books. Her latest is Time to Stand Up: An Engaged Buddhist Manifesto for Our Earth.
Books:
Listening to the Heart: A Contemplative Journey to Engaged Buddhism
Time to Stand Up: An Engaged Buddhist Manifesto for Our Earth -- The Buddha's Life and Message through Feminine Eyes (Sacred Activism)
Empty Hands, A Memoir: One Woman's Journey to Save Children Orphaned by AIDS in South Africa (Sacred Activism)
The Heart Of The Bitter Almond Hedge Sutra
Website: dharmagiri.org
Discussion of this video in the Batgap Community Facebook Group.
Transcript of this interview
Interview recorded Oct. 28, 2017.
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction and Background of Kittisaro and Thanissara
00:04:27 - Background and Experiences
00:07:52 - Setting up a non-profit and training programs for the planetary emergency
00:11:29 - Bringing the Buddhist Community on Board
00:14:47 - Profound Impact on Consciousness Shifts
00:18:44 - Mandela's Courageous Act
00:22:27 - The Tipping Point and Profound Shifts
00:25:29 - Overcoming Overwhelm and Finding Balance
00:29:21 - Unlocking the Power of Deep Intelligence
00:32:28 - Standing Rock and the Energy Revolution
00:36:00 - Reducing Consumption and Shifting to Plant-Based Diets
00:39:53 - Mindsets and Awareness
00:43:21 - Surrendering to Sickness and Opening to the Teaching
00:47:11 - Lying Down Meditation and Letting Go
00:50:35 - Permission to Die
00:54:02 - The Power of Different Meditation Techniques
00:57:21 - The Shift from Warrior to Lover Archetype
01:01:05 - The Living and Responsive Universe
01:04:33 - Being Embodied in the Web of Life
01:08:01 - Universal Love and Compassion
01:11:12 - Challenges of Spiritual Upbringing in the West
01:14:27 - The Importance of Calling Out Inappropriate Behavior
01:17:33 - Breaking the Silence, Revealing the Shadow
01:20:58 - The Importance of Impeccable Awareness
01:24:29 - Returning to Primary Patterning
01:27:48 - The Role of Spiritual Practice in Emotional Suppression
01:31:24 - The Balance of Male and Female
01:34:53 - Embracing the Both And Paradox
01:38:16 - Buddha as a Human Being
01:41:38 - A Profound Inner Awakening
01:45:00 - Thank You and Goodbye

Nov 22, 2017 • 1h 58min
427. Panel Discussion: “Sudden or Gradual: Two Paths to Realization?”
Recorded at the Science and Nonduality Conference.
There is a perennial debate in spiritual traditions regarding whether realization is direct (sudden) or progressive (gradual). But is this a false distinction? Realization is often sudden, no matter how many years of practice may have led up to it, and even after realization, most people find that refinement, clarification, and the working out of personal shortcomings continue indefinitely.
Who wouldn’t prefer direct realization to years of purification and practice? But how many examples of purely direct realization can we find? Can a path be both direct and progressive? Is it possible to have a taste of our true nature from the outset, and then spend a lifetime clarifying and embodying it? Also, is there one watershed breakthrough which can be universally agreed upon as final “Realization”, or are there many degrees and stages of realization, each of them important stepping stones in a never-ending journey?
Proponents of the direct path sometimes argue that if we regard spiritual development as progressive, we will forever be anticipating, never arriving. But some spiritual seekers, not appreciating the distinction between understanding and experience, mistake intellectual understanding with enlightenment, and consider themselves “finished” when they are just getting started.
Isa Gucciardi, Ph.D. is the Founding Director of the Foundation of the Sacred Stream, a school for consciousness studies in Berkeley, CA. Isa is also the creator of the spiritual counseling model, Depth Hypnosis, and author of two books, Coming to Peace and Return to the Great Mother. In addition to her teaching schedule that includes teaching classes in Applied Buddhist Psychology, Applied Shamanism, Integrated Energy Medicine and Depth Hypnosis, she has active practices in Depth Hypnosis and Applied Shamanic Counseling in San Francisco, CA. For more information, please see sacredstream.org.
Batgap interview with Isa and Robert Thurman.
David F. Buckland has a graduate degree in Vedic Science and researches and writes on subjects related to the approach, shift, integration, and embodiment of the stages of enlightenment. This reflects a 40 year unfolding that has been prominent for much of his life. But with a more recent series of profound shifts, the exploration became the life itself. Under the pen name Davidya, he brings ancient teachings into modern life. After many years of research, he published the book Our Natural Potential: Beyond Personal Development, The Stages of Enlightenment in 2017.
Previous Batgap discussions with David:
Individual interview
Panel Discussion at Sofia University, Part 1
Panel Discussion at Sofia University, Part 2
Michael Rodriguez - Drawing always from his direct experience, Michael speaks with great clarity and compassion about the undivided nature of Life or Consciousness, pointing to reality in a way that is free from dogma, ritual, or adherence to any particular tradition. He also draws skillfully from the world's wisdom traditions and integrates Jungian psychology, literature, music, and art into his work to address the full range of human potential. He offers meetings, retreats, and private sessions here in the United States and abroad.
Book--Boundless Awareness: A Loving Path to Spiritual Awakening and Freedom from Suffering
Previous Batgap discussion with Michael
Discussion of this video in the Batgap Community Facebook Group.
Summary and Transcript of this interview
Recorded October 22, 2017
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Sudden or Gradual? Two Paths to Realisation
00:04:33 - Understanding the Direct Path
00:09:16 - The Both/And Path of Integration
00:14:10 - The Experience of Self on a Soul Level and Relative Level
00:19:16 - Holding Dual Perspectives in the Awakening Process
00:23:46 - The Continuous Process of Unfolding
00:28:04 - The Momentum of the Old Way
00:32:08 - Dissolution of the Self and Healing
00:36:02 - Genuine Insight vs Mechanical Statements
00:40:36 - The Importance of Healing and Clarity
00:45:00 - Embracing Residual Traumas and Awakening
00:50:25 - Accessing the Core Wound
00:54:27 - The Illusion of Separation
00:58:07 - Resolving the Core Wound of Separation
01:03:00 - Audience Questions
01:05:12 - The Challenge of Embracing the Concept of "No Self"
01:09:37 - The Inability to Grasp the Concept of No Self
01:13:53 - Exploring Different Perspectives
01:17:09 - Clearing Thought Processes and Genuine Expression
01:21:36 - When the Spiritual Path is of No Use
01:26:00 - The Importance of Resonance and Finding the Right Teacher
01:28:44 - The Unified Field of Attaining Enlightenment
01:32:58 - The Beauty of Non-Progression
01:36:49 - An Integration Process of Years
01:41:32 - Sharing Perspectives on Vedic and Buddhist Thought
01:45:31 - The Consciousness of Black Oaks
01:49:30 - A Path of Gradual and Sudden Shifts
01:53:18 - Maintaining the Lightness
01:57:03 - The Journey of Self-Realization and Shifting Realities
02:01:18 - Connecting with the Felt Experience


