Motivational Interviewing & Beyond

Joel Porter & Steve Rollnick
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Sep 23, 2025 • 1h 30min

The Craft of Motivational Interviewing

This episode of MIB explores MI as a craft, moving beyond a set of skills to a nuanced conversational art form. We aim to explore what it takes to become a practitioner focusing on the intuitive, adaptive and deeply personal aspects of helping. We were joined by Heather Flynn, Patrick Berthiaume, David Rosengren, Mike Porteous and Allan Zuckoff for the unbounded conversation. 
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Jul 27, 2025 • 1h 30min

The International Motivational Interviewing Summit: Debrief

The 2025 Motivational Interviewing Summit was a gathering ofcolleagues from around the world to explore the future of MIpractice, and research. Sponsored by the Florida State University Center for Behavioral Health Integration, the MI Summit was held in Tallahassee, Florida, USA on  17-18 May 2025. This interactive collaborative event included roundtable and panel discussions centred on innovations and directions of MI. We had robust exchanges, friendly differences, and good humour through a lively two-daygathering. In this podcast we reflected on the the learnings and questions that emerged from our time together.
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Aug 7, 2024 • 1h 29min

How Much Expertise Do You Need To Be Helpful?

In the episode of MIB, Steve and Joel are joined by Terri Moyers, Chris Wagner and Densie Ernst to explore how skillful do you need to be at MI to be hopeful. This conversation compliments up our last episode on "Harmology". We hope you find this discussion stimulating and enjoyable. We could not do MIB without the generous support of the team at the Department of Behavioral Sciences and Social Support at Florida State University. Thanks for listening! Joel & Steve
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Apr 25, 2024 • 1h 23min

Harmology: How Helping Can Cause Unintended Harm

Brendan Murphy and Shaun Shelly discuss harmology and unintended harm in helping others. They explore toxic empathy, informed practice, and the balance between empathy and sympathy. The importance of understanding emotions in therapy and utilizing tools like wooden emotion cubes is emphasized. The podcast also delves into mitigating harm in mental health support and the impact of yelling in sports coaching.
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Dec 2, 2023 • 1h 44min

What would Carl Rogers think about MI?

In this episode Steve, Joel and Ange are joined by our good friends Allan Zuckoff and Chris Wagner to explore MI and Person Centered Counselling. Where do these approaches converge and diverge. We did the best we could to explore what Carl Rogers might think about MI if he was alive today. Happy Holidays and we will see next year!
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Oct 27, 2023 • 1h 24min

The Future of MI

In this episode, Steve, Kendelle and Joel are live from the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers annual Forum in Copenhagen, Denmark.  The conversation was with both friends in audience and online. There was a lot of conversational territory covered in an hour and half. Apparently, the use of MI is being explores in a wide range of areas from cultural humility to family relationships and even climate change. Based on this conversation the future of MI is a work in progress. 
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Jul 4, 2023 • 1h 33min

MI & AI: What is Happening and What Does the Future Hold?

In this episode, the guests explore what exactly artificial intelligence is and discuss its impact on motivational interviewing. They delve into the potential of AI in healthcare, including analysis of non-verbal cues and the use of facial recognition software. The speakers also highlight the role of AI in empathy and compassion, and discuss the benefits, challenges, and future possibilities of integrating AI into the field of motivational interviewing.
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May 31, 2023 • 1h 55min

Motivational Interviewing, 4th Edition: What's in-store? What's changed?

In this episode, the hosts discuss the upcoming 4th edition of the Motivational Interviewing (MI) book, exploring its alignment with cultural changes, the role of ambivalence in behavior change, and the evolution of MI. They also touch on comfort levels with certain aspects of MI, operationalizing change, and the relationship between MI and organizational change. Additionally, they discuss creating safety for clinicians, wrapping up with gratitude for the audience's participation.
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Apr 27, 2023 • 1h 33min

updated - Psychedelic Assisted Therapy: Does MI Have a Place?

In this episode, Joel, Steve and Ange take a long look at psychedelic assisted therapy (PAT) and how MI may or may not fit. We are joined by Joshua Bringle, PhD, Joji Suzuki, MD, Candida Mauer, PhD and Michael Fluop, MD who are all engaged in funded clinical trails  ketamine and psylocibin. The conversation was fun, illuminating and mind altering (or changing) for some. The audience chat is included in the Transcript section.On a side note, MIB is heading into our third year,  with 42,000 down loads and continues to build a lovely international community of friends. MI Around the World is a international project offer low cost to no cost MI training  in three time zones over the next two months. For more information, please visit us: https://www.eventbrite.co.nz/o/dr-joel-porter-18627665246 or emai: miworkshops@mail.com
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Apr 4, 2023 • 1h 28min

Hope and MI: Is hope a verb? A noun? How does hope feel? What does it look like? How important is it?

In this episode of MIB, Kendelle, Joel, Angela and guests explore the place of hope in helping people grow and make changes. We take a look at how hope fits with the spirit and practice of MI.

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