
The Editing Podcast
Jordan Orme is a video editor that has worked with Justin Bieber, Post Malone, Nike, Amazon Prime, and many more.
Hayden Hillier-Smith is a leader in online video editing with a client list that includes household names like Logan Paul and MrBeast.
Together they are The Editing Podcast: a podcast for video editors by video editors…because editing is in our lives more than ever. Whether it's the latest social media star or a literal Oscar winner, Jordan and Hayden interview the editors whose timelines have changed the world.
Latest episodes

Dec 1, 2022 • 27min
Why Filmmakers Hate YouTube, But Shouldn't. (w/ ThisGuyEdits)
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0:00 Why filmmakers hate YouTube
2:22 Editors used to hate Netflix
3:34 YouTube’s secret advantage
4:58 Why Sven’s film students reject YouTube
6:35 How Sven started his YouTube channel 11:00 Comment “We love Stir”
11:43 Film vs YouTube intros
15:55 Why do music video work on YouTube?
17:54 How creatives use social media to tell stories
20:17 ThisGuyEdits’ biggest YouTube lesson
22:14 How James Cameron hired from YouTube
24:41 Secrets behind ThisGuyEdits
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Why do filmmakers hate Youtube? James Cameron has hired someone immediately after watching their YouTube video. But if you’re posting your artsy film on YouTube, and working with YouTube’s “retention rules” doesn’t that mean you can’t make your film the way you intend? We honestly don’t know if YouTube is a good or bad place for new filmmakers, but we wanted to explore these ideas with Sven Pape. He has edited films that have been to Sundance and Cannes, but he is best known for his YouTube channel ThisGuyEdits. Sven is the rare content creator who has a foot both in the Youtube world and in the traditional film world. And so we wanted to have the conversation.

Nov 22, 2022 • 28min
How Nope's Editing Psychologically Tricked You - Nicholas Monsour
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A great movie should suck you in. "Nope" directed by Jordan Peele does that, literally. The man who put those shots together is Nicholas Monsour. Nicholas has edited "Nope", "Us", "Keanu", "Key and Peele", and "Drunk History." We talked to him about finding the story in the edit, how much the script dictates his cuts and hidden details in "Nope" that you might have missed.
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Nov 15, 2022 • 1h 10min
Why Netflix Editors Don’t Care About The Algorithm - Cobra Kai Editor Zack Arnold, ACE
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Can a YouTube video be number one on Netflix? Netflix took a gamble on a YouTube Show, Cobra Kai, and it became the #1 streaming show, with Season 5 outpacing The House of the Dragon, The Rings of Power, and She-Hulk. And there’s a reason for this, its storytelling and editing. Zack Arnold has edited the most iconic episodes of Cobra Kai, and became its lead editor in season 5, mostly due to his storytelling philosophies. We sat down with Zack and explored the language of editing on Netflix and if traditional editors care about Netflix’s Algorithm.
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Nov 15, 2022 • 36min
Michelle Khare Hates Retention Editing, And It's Working
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Do you want to know what’s next for YouTube? Look to Michelle Khare. Michelle has trained with the army, survived the hottest place on earth, and made us interested in the politics of a cheer squad. Michelle creates Spectacle-based YouTube videos, but hers stand out as the best because of her experience in traditional media. Instead of retention and optimization, her team focuses on experiential storytelling which is brought to life by her director Garrett, and Silas, her editor! Their secret to good videos is surprisingly obvious.
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Nov 8, 2022 • 38min
Editing Secrets from the Editor of Black Adam - Mike Sale, ACE
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Is there a difference between editing MrBeast and Black Adam? You may be surprised by the answer. Mike Sale, ACE has been in the business for over 20 years, and his passion for editing is palpable. The reason Black Adam is doing so well in the cinema is that Mike’s editing made us fall in love with the main character using one trick, flaws. Despite working with budgets we’ve never seen before, Mike’s advice in this episode is highly actionable for any editor at any level, especially his 3 secrets to a perfect cut.
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Oct 25, 2022 • 30min
How He Accidentally Started Editing For Taylor Swift
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Taylor Swift. Mariah Carey. Nicki Minaj. Imagine Dragons. What do all these artists have in common? Their music videos have all been edited by today’s guest. Chancler Haynes is a music video editor who has worked with the music industry’s biggest artists, amassing billions of views and breaking YouTube trending every upload. His latest edit was Taylor Swift’s Anti-Hero and Bejeweled music videos which she released for her latest Midnights album. Chancler spoke to us about working with Taylor Swift and Joseph Kahn, and how his biggest editing inspiration is actually Jackie Chan.
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Oct 18, 2022 • 23min
5 Secrets that Upgraded Our Editing Career
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We asked our audience to throw us some questions, we explore the secrets and tips in how to find editing clients, discover your pay rates, maximise your editing workflow and learn to be efficient in your editing. Hayden also simplifies the process on how to tell a story.
00:00 Intro
00:58 How To Find Editing Clients
05:56 How To Find Your Pay Rate
8:28 Use Stir To Help Find Your Value and with Credits
9:28 What Is Your Editing Workflow?
16:35 How To Be Efficient
20:47 Does Every Video Need To Tell a Story?

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Oct 11, 2022 • 30min
#1 Biggest YouTube Editing Mistake & How To Fix It
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Today's guest has definitely been in your favorite creators' Frame.io.
Meet YouTube consultant Paddy Galloway. Paddy has saved countless YouTube videos in the edit, resulting in billions of views. Known for his devout study of YouTube analytics, Paddy can spot where a video fails and flourishes based on previous retention curves. On this episode of The Editing Podcast, Paddy sits down with Jordan and Hayden to talk about restructuring videos in the edit, the biggest editing mistakes his clients make, and whether the algorithm actually rewards good filmmaking.
00:00 Intro
01:13 Who is Paddy?
2:52 Paddy's Surgery Editing
4:46 How He Got His Knowledge
7:08 The Distraction Test
9:13 Creators Are Insecure...why?
12:13 "Optimized" is problematic.
13:07 Say "Stir is cool"
14:07 Working With New Editors
14:52 Study Traditional Media
17:35 Creators Need to Slow Down Their Editing
18:43 Problem With Mr.Beast Clones
20:27 Consulting Woes
21:32 What Data Can Teach You and Can't
23:12 Is It Bad To Make a Good Video?
27:22 YouTube Media vs. Traditional Media
29:18 Closing Thoughts

Oct 4, 2022 • 40min
Breaking Down The Best Edits Of All Time
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Jordan Orme and Hayden-Hillier Smith break down their favorite cuts of all time, incredible editing moments from this past year, and their personal favorite cut ever from their own editing work. They dissect how one cut can ripple across an entire movie and even into their own personal lives.
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00:00 Intro
01:07 The Game
02:51 What is Jordan’s Favorite Cut?
07:50 CONTENT WARNING SKIP
14:01 What is Hayden’s Favorite Cut?
20:12 Jordan’s Best Cut This Year
24:30 Hayden’s Best Cut This Year
29:44 Comment “Stir is Cool’
30:44 Jordan’s Best Cut Of All Time
35:27 Hayden’s Best Cut Of All Time

Sep 24, 2022 • 37min
Why Professional Editors Won’t Work On YouTube
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Jordan Orme and Hayden-Hillier Smith compare and contrast the working conditions, hours, pay, and other incentives between YouTube editors and editors in the traditional film industry. What can web editors do to improve a negative work environment?
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