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Exploring what it means to live a good life. What does it mean to live a good life? What is true happiness? What are the habits, practices, and dispositions that contribute to authentic human flourishing? No Small Endeavor examines these questions with host Lee C. Camp. You'll hear from best-selling authors, philosophers, scientists, artists, psychologists, theologians and even the occasional politician—courageous, impassioned people taking seriously the question of how to live a good life. Striving for a good life is No Small Endeavor, and we’re here with you on the road. Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.
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Aug 15, 2023 • 1h 39min
116: Unabridged Interview: Charlie Strobel
This is our unabridged interview with Charles Strobel.
On August 6th, 2023, at the age of 80, Charles Strobel, affectionately known as Charlie, left us. Today, we revisit our 2020 interview with him. A true Nashville icon, he was once hailed as "Tennesseean of the Year." As a Catholic priest and the visionary behind Room In The Inn, a Nashville-based non-profit dedicated to offering hospitality, education, community, and employment to those experiencing homelessness, Charlie's impact was immeasurable.
Join us in this special episode where he shares captivating anecdotes from his life, recounting his journey from living among the homeless to founding a shelter for them. He candidly discusses his battles with depression and the transformative power of therapy. Incredibly, he opens up about his journey to forgive the individual who took his mother's life.
Charlie's existence epitomized the essence of a well-lived life, making him an extraordinary example to us all. As we mourn his passing, let's celebrate the legacy he leaves behind.
Show Notes:
Similar episodes
Ending Violence Through Forgiveness: Azim Khamisa
Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence
Resources mentioned this episode
Room In The Inn
Charlie’s Obituary
Transcription Link for Abridged Episode
PDF of Lee's Interview Notes
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Aug 10, 2023 • 51min
116: Charles Strobel: Remembering a Life Well Lived
On August 6th, 2023, at the age of 80, Charles Strobel, affectionately known as Charlie, left us. Today, we revisit our 2020 interview with him. A true Nashville icon, he was once hailed as "Tennesseean of the Year." As a Catholic priest and the visionary behind Room In The Inn, a Nashville-based non-profit dedicated to offering hospitality, education, community, and employment to those experiencing homelessness, Charlie's impact was immeasurable.
Join us in this special episode where he shares captivating anecdotes from his life, recounting his journey from living among the homeless to founding a shelter for them. He candidly discusses his battles with depression and the transformative power of therapy. Incredibly, he opens up about his journey to forgive the individual who took his mother's life.
Charlie's existence epitomized the essence of a well-lived life, making him an extraordinary example to us all. As we mourn his passing, let's celebrate the legacy he leaves behind.
Show Notes:
Similar episodes
Ending Violence Through Forgiveness: Azim Khamisa
Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence
Resources mentioned this episode
Room In The Inn
Charlie’s Obituary
Transcription Link
PDF of Lee's Interview Notes
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Aug 8, 2023 • 1h 3min
115: Unabridged Interview: Elise Hu
This is our unabridged interview with Elise Hu.
What is beauty, and what role should it play in our lives?
Beauty has long been seen as one the three “transcendentals” (along with truth and goodness) which have been valued at all times, in all places, by all cultures. But these days, the word “beauty” is often equated with standards of bodily presentation that, in an increasingly globalized and technological world, are reachable only by extreme measures of constant labor or cosmetic surgery.
In this episode, Elise asks the question we’re all thinking: is that version of beauty good for us? She discusses her experience in a beauty-obsessed Korean culture, its effects on both women and men, and what a healthy relationship with beauty might look like.
Show Notes:
Similar episodes
The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke
Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho
Resources mentioned this episode
Flawless by Elise Hu
PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
Transcription Link for Abridged Episode
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Aug 3, 2023 • 54min
115: Elise Hu: Obsessed With Beauty
What is beauty, and what role should it play in our lives?
Beauty has long been seen as one the three “transcendentals” (along with truth and goodness) which have been valued at all times, in all places, by all cultures. But these days, the word “beauty” is often equated with standards of bodily presentation that, in an increasingly globalized and technological world, are reachable only by extreme measures of constant labor or cosmetic surgery.
In this episode, Elise asks the question we’re all thinking: is that version of beauty good for us? She discusses her experience in a beauty-obsessed Korean culture, its effects on both women and men, and what a healthy relationship with beauty might look like.
Show Notes:
Similar episodes
The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke
Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho
Resources mentioned this episode
Flawless by Elise Hu
PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
Transcription Link
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Aug 1, 2023 • 1h
114: Unabridged Interview: Tish Harrison Warren
This is our unabridged interview with Tish Harrison Warren.
Does pluralism result in discrimination? Must one choose a political side, either on the Left or the Right? And how can an ordinary life be an exceptional one?
These are all questions involving dichotomies that are commonly presented to us in our culture. But Tish Harrison Warren, an ordained Anglican priest and columnist for the New York Times, sees such dichotomies as false, and has spent her own life’s work breaking them down in whatever ways she can.
In this episode, Tish discusses her experience as a campus minister in the midst of controversy at Vanderbilt University, what it’s like holding convictions while under fire from both sides of the political spectrum, and her award-winning book Liturgy of the Ordinary.
Show Notes:
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Dorothy Day: Traditional, Radical, Christian
“What Could Possibly Produce Someone with a Soul That Shallow?”: Stanley Hauerwas
Resources mentioned this episode
Liturgy of the Ordinary by Tish Harrison Warren
Tish’s website
Tish’s New York Times column
PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
Transcription Link for Abridged Episode
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Jul 26, 2023 • 54min
114: Tish Harrison Warren: Beyond Left and Right
Does pluralism result in discrimination? Must one choose a political side, either on the Left or the Right? And how can an ordinary life be an exceptional one?
These are all questions involving dichotomies that are commonly presented to us in our culture. But Tish Harrison Warren, an ordained Anglican priest and columnist for the New York Times, sees such dichotomies as false, and has spent her own life’s work breaking them down in whatever ways she can.
In this episode, Tish discusses her experience as a campus minister in the midst of controversy at Vanderbilt University, what it’s like holding convictions while under fire from both sides of the political spectrum, and her award-winning book Liturgy of the Ordinary.
Show Notes:
Similar episodes
Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French
Dorothy Day: Traditional, Radical, Christian
“What Could Possibly Produce Someone with a Soul That Shallow?”: Stanley Hauerwas
Resources mentioned this episode
Liturgy of the Ordinary by Tish Harrison Warren
Tish’s website
Tish’s New York Times column
PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
Transcription Link
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Jul 25, 2023 • 54min
113: Unabridged Interview: Angela Duckworth
This is our unabridged interview with Angela Duckworth.
What do Olympic athletes, world-class artists, elite academics, and successful business executives have in common?
Ivy League psychologist Angela Duckworth has spent her career researching this question, closely studying those folks at the top of their respective fields who are considered “high achievers.”
Surprisingly, it turns out talent is not the answer. Neither is genius. “The common denominator,” she says, “is grit.”
In this episode, she explains what she means by “grit,” discusses why it is such a crucial determinant for success, and offers highly practical methods for developing grit in one’s own life.
Show Notes:
Similar episodes
Time Management for Mortals: Oliver Burkeman
What it Takes to Live a Good Life: Meghan Sullivan
Resources mentioned this episode
Grit by Angela Duckworth
Character Lab
PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
Transcription Link for Abridged Episode
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Jul 20, 2023 • 54min
113: Angela Duckworth: Is Grit the Secret to Success?
What do Olympic athletes, world-class artists, elite academics, and successful business executives have in common?
Ivy League psychologist Angela Duckworth has spent her career researching this question, closely studying those folks at the top of their respective fields who are considered “high achievers.”
Surprisingly, it turns out talent is not the answer. Neither is genius. “The common denominator,” she says, “is grit.”
In this episode, she explains what she means by “grit,” discusses why it is such a crucial determinant for success, and offers highly practical methods for developing grit in one’s own life.
Show Notes:
Similar episodes
Time Management for Mortals: Oliver Burkeman
What it Takes to Live a Good Life: Meghan Sullivan
Resources mentioned this episode
Grit by Angela Duckworth
Character Lab
PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
Transcription Link
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Jul 17, 2023 • 1h 27min
112: Unabridged Interview: Parker Palmer (Part II)
This is Part II of our unabridged interview with Parker Palmer.
“Things didn’t come together vocationally for me until I was 50.”
Now 84 years old, Quaker writer, speaker, and activist Parker Palmer has much to say about living a good life. And in his experience, a good life is often hard-won and counterintuitive.
In this episode, Parker covers a lot of ground, offering wisdom gleaned from a life lived at attention to the makings of a good life. He tells about his experience seeking and finding vocation, discovering how a rich life entails the embrace of paradox, and living through two major bouts of depression which gave him an increased attention to life’s small things.
Show Notes:
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Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen
Author of The Shack: William Paul Young
Resources mentioned this episode
Let Your Life Speak by Parker Palmer
The Courage to Teach by Parker Palmer
PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
Transcription Link for Abridged Episode
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Jul 15, 2023 • 1h 24min
112: Unabridged Interview: Parker Palmer (Part I)
This is Part I of our unabridged interview with Parker Palmer.
“Things didn’t come together vocationally for me until I was 50.”
Now 84 years old, Quaker writer, speaker, and activist Parker Palmer has much to say about living a good life. And in his experience, a good life is often hard-won and counterintuitive.
In this episode, Parker covers a lot of ground, offering wisdom gleaned from a life lived at attention to the makings of a good life. He tells about his experience seeking and finding vocation, discovering how a rich life entails the embrace of paradox, and living through two major bouts of depression which gave him an increased attention to life’s small things.
Show Notes:
Similar episodes
Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen
Author of The Shack: William Paul Young
Resources mentioned this episode
Let Your Life Speak by Parker Palmer
The Courage to Teach by Parker Palmer
PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
Transcription Link for Abridged Episode
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