Dr. Anna Ciaunica, a researcher at the Co-Embodied Self Lab, discusses topics such as proximal experiences, consciousness as not a 'thing,' touch and metacognition, hazards of extending consciousness to other organisms, fixing reification with futuristic articles, rocking babies and stadiums, language and thought across cultures, instrumentalizing depersonalization research, pathology of dissociation, cause for optimism in technofuturism, and male v. female brains investigate.

David Ian Howe is an archeologist who hosts the YouTube channel  @davidianhowe  where he explores the role of canines in the evolution of humanity. He is also specializes in flint knapping, bushcraft, and understanding the roots of what makes us human. Get your DEMYSTICON 2024 tickets here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/demysticon-2024-tickets-727054969987 Sign up for a yearly Patreon membership for discounted tickets: https://bit.ly/3lcAasB 00:00:00 Go! 00:00:31 Squishy term "species" 00:08:22 Why did humans pick dogs before cats? 00:17:10 Dogs & language interfacing with humans 00:23:00 Humans meet fire 00:37:16 Specialization of roles in ancient society 00:46:58 Lifespan for early hominids 00:56:20 Evolutionary psych is taboo - should it be? 01:06:53 Interspecies hominid wars 01:17:06 Defining human 01:29:53 Pricing the utility of anthro & archeology 01:43:42 Crowd-funding archeology 02:08:11 Institutional trust 02:35:21 Evolving role of women in science & society 02:42:38 Working out ideas in public 02:59:14 Social hierarchy in humans and apes 03:15:38 Different modes of thinking & learning 03:27:44 Studying the past to learn the masters' techne Tell us what you think in the comments or on our Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub #PrehistoricHumans, #AncientHistory, #HumanHistory, #AncientDogs, #PrehistoricCanines, #HumanAnimalBond, #Archaeology, #EarlyCivilizations, #Domestication, #DogBreeds, #PaleolithicEra, #NeolithicEra, #AncientPets, #ArchaeologicalDiscoveries, #DogAncestry, #EvolutionofDogs, #AncientArtifacts, #FossilEvidence, #HumanCompanionship, #HistoryofDogs. Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

Get your DEMYSTICON 2024 tickets here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/demysticon-2024-tickets-727054969987 Sign up for a yearly Patreon membership for discounted tickets: https://bit.ly/3lcAasB Dr. Enrique Lopez Rodriguez is an astrophysicist at Stanford’s Kavli Institute for Particle Astrophysics and Cosmology, where is working on a comprehensive survey of magnetic fields in nearby galaxies. He has published extensively on the subjects of extragalactic magnetism, active galactic nuclei, infrared polarimetric instrument, and next generation telescopes. We talk about studying the invisible, developing models for the structure of the cosmos, becoming the highest Canarian that ever lived, the value of mad geniuses, becoming useful, and much more. 00:00:00 Go! 00:00:16 Talking magnetic fields 00:11:20 Who is Enrique Lopez Rodriguez 00:25:17 Absence of coherent theories 00:33:26 Electromagnetism vs Gravity 00:44:15 Magnetic reversals and long cycle effects 00:53:39 Getting an accurate read on the cosmos 01:03:07 Instrumentalizing the Cosmos 01:13:11 Bringing new ideas around 01:22:37 Brilliance lost to rough talk 01:32:45 Finding space for ideas to unfurl 01:43:01 Dealing with mad genius 01:54:03 Orphaning of ideas 02:03:19 The only place in the world you get paid to explore 02:13:30 There's no place like home 02:25:56 Closing thoughts Tell us what you think in the comments or on our Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub #magnetism #électromagnétisme #cosmicmagnets #cosmology #astrophysics #astronomy #astromagnetism #electricuniverse #electromagneticuniverse #gravity #galacticmarvels #galaxy #galaxyscience #stanford #stanfordastrophysics #stanfordphysics #science #sciencepodcast #longformpodcast #demystifyscipodcast #demystifysci #longformscience #longformconversations #deepthoughts #whoadude Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

Get your DEMYSTICON 2024 tickets here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/demysticon-2024-tickets-727054969987 Sign up for a yearly Patreon membership for discounted tickets: https://bit.ly/3lcAasB Dr. Subhash Kak is the Regents Professor of Computer Science at Oklahoma State University Stillwater, an honorary visiting professor or engineering at Jawaharlal Nehru University, and a member of the Indian Prime Minister’s Sincere, Technology and Innovation Advisory Council. He has published widely on the history of science, ancient astronomy, the history of mathematics, and archaeoastronomy. We talk with him about the nature of consciousness in the universe, why computers (in their current form) will never be fully conscious, missing pieces of evolutionary theory, trans humanist futures, and the way that life emerges from the constants of the universe but at the end, is just about learning to die. Check out Dr. Kak's writings through our affiliate link and support the podcast while you get learned: https://amzn.to/46RayHM (00:00:17) Who is Subash Kak (00:13:18) Fundamental constants of the universe (00:28:43) A definition for Consciousness (00:40:09) Stigmergy: Emergence without coordination (00:52:56) Missing pieces of evolutionary theory (01:01:22) Spirit in science (01:06:08) Will Computers be Conscious? (01:13:17) Transhumanist future (01:25:05) Differences between computers and humans (01:38:15) Netflix, Videogames, and the experience of Death (01:47:31) Becoming a poet (01:55:17) A failure of vision (01:59:21) "Divine" force of Evolution (02:04:15) Closing thoughts Tell us what you think in the comments or on our Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub #consciousness #computer #computervision #artificialintelligence #transhumanism #computerscience #evolution #poetry #humanity #whatisahuman #podcast #demystifysci #longformconversations #longformpodcast #longformscience #subhashkak #universityofoklahoma #stillwater Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

Get your DEMYSTICON 2024 tickets here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/demysticon-2024-tickets-727054969987 Dr. Gavin Schmidt is the Director of the Goddard Institute of Space Science, and is back for a followup conversation about carbon dioxide, climate change, modeling, and to set the record straight about wether or not we have more glaciations in our future. 00:00:00 Go! 00:00:18 Controversy! 00:04:48 Steelmanning Lindzen 00:13:04 Ocean mixing 00:23:12 Interglacial max temps 00:34:48 No more glaciations? 00:43:39 Every civilization has been threatened by climate change 00:50:38 CO2 v. toxin 00:56:18 Peak oil? 01:03:09 Hole in the Ozone...still there? 01:08:11 Cosmic rays & climate (Nir Shaviv) 01:13:10 Closing thoughts Support the scientific revolution by joining our Patreon: https://bit.ly/3lcAasB Tell us what you think in the comments or on our Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub #climate #climatechange #nasa #nasascience #science #iceage #philosophy #climatemodels #moldeling #GISS #philosophyofscience #predictions #civilization Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

Get your DEMYSTICON 2024 tickets here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/demysticon-2024-tickets-727054969987 Kathy Joseph is a historian of physics and the force behind  @KathyLovesPhysics  , an exploration of the cultural, historical, and social forces that shape physics behind the scenes. We talk to her about unconventional paths to science, the value of understanding history, the surprising ways in which science is shaped by cultural fashions, how materialism came and went, the birth of the aether, and the campaign to discredit relativity as a “Jewish science” Check out her Youtube channel @kathylovesphysics Her website at www.kathylovesphysics.com Her book about the dawn of the electrical age (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/46Fp3hv 00:00:00 Go! 00:00:21 Kathy's book & books we love 00:08:50 Dunning Kruger is misunderstood 00:17:39 A community of ideas 00:27:23 Tesla as physics monk & mascot 00:36:18 Math isn't science 00:45:38 The material atomics project 00:58:40 Back to Dunning Kruger 01:15:45 Giving knowledge, hiding discoveries 01:22:23 Cleaning up Maxwell's equations 01:25:07 Death of the Aether 01:33:59 Invention of fields 01:39:09 Scientific culture that approved of disregarding mediators 01:56:50 Maxwell demands an aether 02:07:01 Aether & nazi politics 02:12:26 Sometimes simplicity rules, regardless 02:27:57 Mechanism as stories 02:33:12 Something you'll really like 02:40:29 Interest in the known vs. unknown 02:50:59 Closing thoughts, history of spin 1/2 Support the scientific revolution by joining our Patreon: https://bit.ly/3lcAasB Tell us what you think in the comments or on our Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub #historyofphysics #physics #history #aetherstudies #whathappenedtotheaether #historyofscience #historyofdiscovery #science #longformconversations #philosophical #demystifysci #demystifyscipodcast Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

Get your DEMYSTICON 2024 tickets here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/demysticon-2024-tickets-727054969987 Dr. James Hollis is a Jungian psychoanalyst, author, and public speaker who has written seventeen books and served as the executive director of the Jung Society of Washington. He stopped by the podcast for a short conversation on the search for meaning in a modern world, the way that mythology allows us to take some of the load off of our shoulders, and how the disappearance of the gods from Mount Olympus means that we are operate in a disorienting era of personal responsibility without any of the guideposts that we used to rely on. Check out Dr. Hollis’ books on amazon (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/3LGYn86 Check out his website: https://jameshollis.net/ 00:00:00 Go! 00:02:33 J functions and P functions 00:05:39 The Cliff of Isms 00:07:50 Humans haven't changed much 00:13:10 A solution to addiction 00:18:15 A tradition of shamanic healing 00:22:07 When the gods leave olympus 00:25:48 Depth psychology and the god of rage 00:31:58 A vapid cosmology 00:40:44 a modern fracture 00:43:53 Mythological escape 00:51:07 An individual or collective process? 00:53:55 Escaping commercial culture 00:55:46 Shifting the task of meaning Support the scientific revolution by joining our Patreon: https://bit.ly/3lcAasB Tell us what you think in the comments or on our Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub #mythology #meaning #psychoanalysis #jungianpsychology #myths #collectivewisdom #unconsciousknowledge #socialmysteries #makingmeaning #manssearchformeaning Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

Get your DEMYSTICON 2024 tickets here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/demysticon-2024-tickets-727054969987 Steve Keene is a post-Keynesian economist who has spent the last fifty years criticizing mainstream economics as inconsistent, unscientific, and empirically unsupported. As part of his effort to rebuild the discipline with a more complete understanding of the relationship between humans and their environment, Keen has begun developing alternative economic models that could be used to fairly redistribute wealth from the richest 1% to the rest of us, and to accurately evaluate the worth of clean air, clean water, and a healthy biosphere. We talk about the way that almost all civilizations end because of climate change, and what that means for our own world. Check out Steve Keene’s work on his YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen/videos Check out his podcast at https://debunkingeconomics.com/ 00:00:00 Go! 00:00:23 News and updates 00:04:40 running for office 00:08:15 Politics without money - impossible? 00:13:50 A unique compression of time 00:16:12 Custodians of nature 00:32:09 Climate Change is Inevitable 00:42:17 Controlling populations is a social disaster 00:55:34 A carrot and stick war on drugs 01:09:26 Redesigning economics 01:15:13 Spaceship economics 01:22:41 The energy problem 01:41:52 Speciation 01:51:35 UBI, Motivation & Opposition 02:01:05 An Analytic Foundation 02:15:05 What classical economics got wrong Support the scientific revolution by joining our Patreon: https://bit.ly/3lcAasB Tell us what you think in the comments or on our Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub #economics #prices #carboncredits #neokeyensian #newschool #neweconomics #neweconomy #debunkingeconomics #economy #econ101 Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

Dr. Patrick Vanraes is a researcher at PLASMANT, University of Antwerp. He focuses on the fundamental features of in-liquid plasma and plasma-liquid interaction, as well as the physics of liquid matter. His work involves experiments, simulations and extensive review of historic work. Our conversation starts with Dr. Vanraes' important finding that plasmas can be generated in liquids without a gas intermediate. Then we explore the implications of a liquid plasma sun for all of cosmology. After all, if gases truly cannot produce blackbody spectra - as has never been shown in a laboratory - then the cosmic microwave background radiation is overdue for a new explanation. Tell us your thoughts in the comments! (00:00:00) Go! (00:00:19) Getting into plasma physics (00:05:49) Lightning in liquids (00:11:11) Applied physics (00:15:20) What is a plasma? liquid v. gas (00:17:23) Patreon Ask (00:28:12) Invitation to answer an open question (00:35:21) The search problem in physics (00:40:33) The marketplace of scientific ideas (00:54:38) The arc of doing academic science (01:03:42) Garage plasma research (01:14:30) Paying for monastic science (01:26:10) Some problems can't be solved in advance (01:30:21) Narrative is king (01:32:05) The liquid sun & Dr. Robitaille (01:45:50) Metastable balance (01:56:04) Scientific dieties (02:14:41) Cosmology and liquid sun are incompatible (02:20:46) Kirchoff's law (02:28:54) Nothing mechanical in statistical mechanics (02:35:12) Metastable undertainty (02:42:00) Criteria for competing theories (02:50:00) Science as dictatorship ruled by Nature (02:58:59) Critical rate of change in understanding Support the scientific revolution by joining our Patreon: https://bit.ly/3lcAasB Tell us what you think in the comments or on our Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub #cosmology #astronomy #astrophysics #philosophyofscience #philosophy #plasma #plasmaphysics #heliophysics #physics #science Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

Dr. Rajendra Gupta is a cosmologist and professor of physics at the University of Ottawa. He has dedicated his work to making sense of images from the new James Webb telescope that appear to contradict the established Big Bang timeline for the universe. Dr. Gupta's explains the recently observed mature galaxies at just 300 million years post-Bang by revising the age of the universe and invoking forsaken ideas like variable constants and tired light. The task remains to explain the cause of this variation. Tell us your ideas in the comments! (00:00:00) Go! (00:00:19) Raj Gupta in the press (00:01:27) What drives you? (00:08:28) Questioning the age of the universe (00:12:23) Patreon Ask (00:24:03) Keating & Rogan & doubting the Bang (00:34:34) The Hubble Tension (00:39:03) What does it mean to rewrite physics? (00:45:03) No difference between distance & time in astronomy (00:48:59) Can physics avoid material foundations indefinitely? (00:56:51) Stiffness of space (01:02:42) A reason why physical constants might change over time (01:05:07) Ressurecting old unpopular ideas from the past (01:12:41) Laboratory measurement of redshift (01:24:18) Multiplicity of theories of nature (01:30:54) Probabilistic approaches to understanding nature (01:37:35) Reimagining mediators in fundamental physics (01:49:47) Closing thoughts on the future of physics and cosmology Support the scientific revolution by joining our Patreon: https://bit.ly/3lcAasB Tell us what you think in the comments or on our Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub #cosmology #jameswebbspacetelescope #astronomy #astrophysics #philosophyofscience #philosophy Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671