

Going Inside: Healing Trauma from the Inside Out
John Clarke, LPCC
Hosted by licensed trauma therapist John Clarke, LPCC, Going Inside is a podcast on a mission to help you heal from trauma and reconnect with your authentic Self. This show explores trauma healing through the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy with detours into EMDR, Somatic Experiencing, and more. Tune in for enlightening guest expert interviews, immersive solo deep dives, real-life therapy sessions, and soothing guided meditations. Learn more about and apply to work 1-1 with John at https://www.johnclarketherapy.com.
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Oct 20, 2025 • 41min
Why Therapists Struggle With Money (And How to Heal It) with Nadine Zumot
Therapists are trained to hold space for others,but not for their own financial stories. In this powerful conversation, trauma-informed money coach Nadine Zumot joins John to unpack the hidden emotional wounds behind money shame, avoidance, and burnout. Together, they explore how trauma shapes our money behaviors, why fee-setting can feel “dirty,” and how somatic healing can help therapists finally feel in control of their finances.🔑 3 Key Takeaways:Money avoidance isn’t just procrastination — it’s often a trauma response. Learn how therapists’ unhealed wounds manifest in financial patterns like undercharging, overspending, or obsessing.You can’t mindset your way out of money shame. Nadine shares how somatic tools, nervous system regulation, and parts work help make money feel safe again.The stories we tell ourselves about “worthiness” and “charging too much” are rarely about math. Discover how healing your money story can unlock confidence, clarity, and peace.👤 Guest: Nadine ZumotNadine Zumot is a trauma-informed money coach who helps people heal the money wounds left by childhood trauma and CPTSD. Her work blends nervous system regulation, somatic healing, and practical financial systems so money feels safe and empowering instead of stressful. She has helped clients go from debt, avoidance, and anxiety to building savings, creating freedom, and finally feeling in control of their finances.💻 Website: saveamillioncents.com🎧 Podcast: Unfuck Your Money📩 Email: nadine@saveamillioncents.com📸 Instagram: @nadinezumot🧰 Resources & Offerings:➡️ Free IFS Training for Therapists: From Burnout to Balance: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ 1-Month Grace Period with Jane – Use code JOHN or visit: https://meet.jane.app/john-clarke-ambassador➡️ 10% Off at Grounding Well – Use code GWJOHNCLARKE or visit: https://www.groundingwell.com/GWJOHNCLARKE➡️ 10% Off at Dharma Dr. – Use code JOHN or visit: https://dharmadr.com/JOHN🔗 Connect with me:https://www.johnclarketherapy.com/ https://www.instagram.com/johnclarketherapy/ https://www.tiktok.com/@johnclarketherapy https://www.youtube.com/@johnclarketherapyGrab Your Seat for the Free IFS Webinar Here: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ Free Training - Learn how to integrate the principles of IFS into your therapy practice: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast

Oct 13, 2025 • 53min
Somatic Work, Scope Creep & Staying Ethical with Danica Harris
➡️ Start showing up to every session grounded, attuned, and fully resourced with the Self-Energy Guide for Therapists: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/self-energy-guide-orgWhat happens when a trauma therapist steps outside the traditional therapy model to create a more embodied, flexible, and client-centered way of healing?In this powerful conversation, somatic practitioner Dr. Danica Harris joins John Clarke to explore what it really means to heal from complex trauma without retraumatization. Together, they unpack the difference between therapy and somatic coaching, why retelling the trauma story isn’t necessary for healing, and how to work at the pace of the nervous system rather than the urgency of our parts.Whether you’re a therapist, coach, or healer, this episode invites you to rethink the boundaries of your work—and what it truly means to be with your clients in their healing.3 Key TakeawaysWhy hearing the trauma story might actually get in the way of healing — and what to do instead.How to bring somatic and energetic work into your practice without crossing ethical lines.The surprising reason slowing down can create the biggest breakthroughs for your clients (and for you).👤 About Dr. Danica HarrisDr. Danica Harris is a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and complex trauma expert, working internationally as a coach, facilitator, presenter, and educator. Trained as a Counseling Psychologist, Danica prioritizes helping folks heal so they can live more embodied and empowered lives.If you’re seeking deep healing, check out her upcoming retreat:Healing Your Way Home – Dallas, TX | Nov 6–10Connect with DanicaIG / FB / Threads / Pinterest: @theempoweredtherapistIG / FB / Threads / TikTok (Practice): @empoweredhealingdallas📧 Contact: drharris@empoweredhealingdallas.comResources & Offerings:➡️ Free IFS Training for Therapists: From Burnout to Balance: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ 1-Month Grace Period with Jane – Use code JOHN or visit: https://meet.jane.app/john-clarke-ambassador➡️ 10% Off at Grounding Well – Use code GWJOHNCLARKE or visit: https://www.groundingwell.com/GWJOHNCLARKE➡️ 10% Off at Dharma Dr. – Use code JOHN or visit: https://dharmadr.com/JOHNConnect with Johnhttps://www.johnclarketherapy.com/https://www.instagram.com/johnclarketherapy/https://www.tiktok.com/@johnclarketherapyhttps://www.youtube.com/@johnclarketherapyGrab Your Seat for the Free IFS Webinar Here: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ Free Training - Learn how to integrate the principles of IFS into your therapy practice: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast

Sep 29, 2025 • 51min
Dissociation, Attachment Trauma & the Brainstem with Nikki Nooteboom
Dissociation, Attachment Trauma & the Brainstem with Nikki NooteboomIn this episode of Going Inside, Dutch therapist and trainer Nikki Nooteboom joins John to explore how neurobiology is reshaping trauma therapy. From the vestibular system to dissociation and the default mode network, Nikki breaks down the deep physiological roots of trauma — and how to work with them more effectively in clinical practice. If you've ever wondered why some clients can't stay grounded or why insight alone doesn't lead to healing, this conversation is for you.🔑 3 Key TakeawaysWhy Knowing Isn’t Healing: Insight alone doesn’t shift trauma — the body must first rediscover safety through bottom-up integration.The Vestibular System’s Role in Trauma: Learn how trauma disrupts orientation and balance at a neurological level — and why that matters more than we think.Beyond Coping: Creating Real Safety in the Brain: Discover how consistent, structured grounding practices can actually rewire a brain organized around survival.👤 Guest: Nikki NooteboomNikki Nooteboom is a Dutch therapist and trainer who integrates neurobiology with trauma healing methods like IFS, EMDR, and somatic therapies. Her work focuses on making therapy more effective by working with the brain from the bottom up. She also trains other therapists, social workers, and bodyworkers in neuro-informed approaches through the Finding Solid Ground program and the Trauma-Informed Academy.Website (Therapy): www.neuroinformedcare.comWebsite (Trainings): www.traumainformedacademy.orgLinkedIn: Nikki NooteboomInstagram: @traumatherapeut_nikkiResources & Offerings: ➡️ Free IFS Training for Therapists: From Burnout to Balance: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ 1-Month Grace Period with Jane – Use code JOHN or visit: https://meet.jane.app/john-clarke-ambassador➡️ 10% Off at Grounding Well – Use code GWJOHNCLARKE or visit: https://www.groundingwell.com/GWJOHNCLARKE➡️ 10% Off at Dharma Dr. – Use code JOHN or visit: https://dharmadr.com/JOHNConnect with Me:https://www.johnclarketherapy.com/ https://www.instagram.com/johnclarketherapy/ https://www.tiktok.com/@johnclarketherapy https://www.youtube.com/@johnclarketherapyGrab Your Seat for the Free IFS Webinar Here: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ Free Training - Learn how to integrate the principles of IFS into your therapy practice: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast

Sep 22, 2025 • 45min
Somatic Secrets to Healing Deep Emotional Wounds with Marina Shriner
In this deeply moving episode of Going Inside, John sits down with somatic coach Marina Shriner for a raw and resonant exploration of how trauma hides in the body—and how it silently shapes our relationships, self-worth, and emotional patterns.From immigration and war to abusive relationships and business breakdowns, Marina shares her personal healing journey and why talk therapy wasn’t enough. She reveals the powerful truth about what happens when we stop trying to think our way out of trauma—and start feeling our way through it.Key Takeaways🔑 You can't outthink trauma — Marina shares why healing requires going into the body, not around it.🔑 The fixer/rescuer part may be protecting your inner child — Learn how over-functioning in relationships is often a trauma response.🔑 Grief doesn’t go away—it waits — Discover how unprocessed grief and emotional pain can live in the nervous system for years if left unfelt.👤 Guest: Marina ShrinerMarina Shriner is a renowned somatic coach who has helped thousands of clients move through stuckness, regulate their nervous systems, and reconnect with their inner power. Her work focuses on the deeper emotional patterns that shape our relationships, careers, and sense of self—especially around the fixer/rescuer/helper roles we unconsciously adopt.🖥️ Website: www.marinayt.com/HeartSpace🎧 Podcast: marinayt.com/podcast📸 Instagram: @marina.y.t📩 Email: love@marinayt.comResources & Offerings:➡️ Free IFS Training for Therapists: From Burnout to Balance: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast ➡️ 1-Month Grace Period with Jane – Use code JOHN or visit: https://meet.jane.app/john-clarke-ambassador ➡️ 10% Off at Grounding Well – Use code GWJOHNCLARKE or visit: https://www.groundingwell.com/GWJOHNCLARKE ➡️ 10% Off at Dharma Dr. – Use code JOHN or visit: https://dharmadr.com/JOHN Connect with me:https://www.johnclarketherapy.com/ https://www.instagram.com/johnclarketherapy/ https://www.tiktok.com/@johnclarketherapy https://www.youtube.com/@johnclarketherapyGrab Your Seat for the Free IFS Webinar Here: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ Free Training - Learn how to integrate the principles of IFS into your therapy practice: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast

Sep 15, 2025 • 51min
Navigating Non-Monogamy & Attachment with Jessica Fern
In this episode of Going Inside, John Clarke sits down with Jessica Fern—IFS-trained trauma therapist and author of Polysecure—to explore what really happens inside our systems when we open up relationships. They unpack the intersection of attachment, trauma, and non-monogamy, and how IFS brings clarity and healing to the parts that get activated. Whether you're a therapist, curious about ethical non-monogamy, or working on your own attachment wounding, this conversation offers powerful insight, practical frameworks, and plenty of aha moments.Key Takeaways:Why "opening up" a relationship often opens old wounds first—and how IFS can help you meet the infant parts crying out for safety.The surprising ways codependency, polyamory, and secure attachment collide—and what people get wrong about each.How the "shame triangle" shows up in modern relationships—and why your inner critic may be the loudest part in the room.👤 Guest: Jessica FernJessica Fern holds a Master’s degree in Conflict Resolution, is a Certified Clinical Trauma Professional, a trained Internal Family Systems (IFS) practitioner, and an integrative therapist drawing on 25 years of experience in somatic, narrative, psychotherapeutic, and spiritual healing modalities. She is the internationally recognized author of Polysecure, The Polysecure Workbook, Polywise, and her upcoming book Transforming the Shame Triangle.Through her international private practice, Jessica works with individuals, couples, and multi-partner relationships to break free from reactive patterns, cultural conditioning, insecure attachment, and past trauma—empowering them to embody new possibilities in life and love.Contact + Learn More: 🌐 JessicaFern.com 📧 connect@jessicafern.com 📸 Instagram: @JessicaFernResources & Offerings:➡️ Discover how to stay grounded, attuned, and effective, no matter what your clients (or you) bring into the room: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/self-energy-guide-org➡️ Free IFS Training for Therapists: From Burnout to Balance: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ 1-Month Grace Period with Jane – Use code JOHN or visit: https://meet.jane.app/john-clarke-ambassador➡️ 10% Off at Grounding Well – Use code GWJOHNCLARKE or visit: https://www.groundingwell.com/GWJOHNCLARKE➡️ 10% Off at Dharma Dr. – Use code JOHN or visit: https://dharmadr.com/JOHNConnect with Me:https://www.johnclarketherapy.com/https://www.instagram.com/johnclarketherapy/https://www.tiktok.com/@johnclarketherapyhttps://www.youtube.com/@johnclarketherapyGrab Your Seat for the Free IFS Webinar Here: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ Free Training - Learn how to integrate the principles of IFS into your therapy practice: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast

Sep 8, 2025 • 47min
The Hidden Power of Grief in Healing Trauma with Rebecca Wong
Grief isn’t just about loss — it’s also a doorway into healing. In this deeply resonant conversation, relational therapist Rebecca Wong and host John Clarke explore how grief, when met with presence and curiosity, becomes a powerful force for integration and connection. Together, we dive into what it means to turn toward our discomfort, build trust with our nervous systems, and honor the wisdom already within us.Whether you’re a therapist, a client, or a human navigating this wild experience of being alive, this episode will help you reflect on your own relationship with pain, healing, and connection.Key TakeawaysGrief as your most untapped therapeutic tool. Discover why it’s more than just sadness and how it opens a door to deep relational healing.Could your urge to fix block your client’s healing? Explore the subtle shift that changes how your presence impacts clients.How clients' reactions are actually wisdom in disguise. Learn how to recognize the intelligence of the nervous system, even in shutdown, collapse, or rage.👤 Guest: Rebecca WongRebecca Wong is a relational therapist, educator, and the creator of Connectfulness®, a practice rooted in presence, curiosity, and the courage to turn toward what’s hard. She supports individuals, couples, and healing professionals in cultivating nervous system trust, relational integrity, and generational repair. Learn more at connectfulness.com.📩 Contact: rebecca@connectfulness.com🔗 Social: @connectfulnessResources & Offerings:➡️ Free IFS Training for Therapists: From Burnout to Balance: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ 1-Month Grace Period with Jane – Use code JOHN or visit: https://meet.jane.app/john-clarke-ambassador➡️ 10% Off at Grounding Well – Use code GWJOHNCLARKE or visit: https://www.groundingwell.com/GWJOHNCLARKE➡️ 10% Off at Dharma Dr. – Use code JOHN or visit: https://dharmadr.com/JOHNConnect with me:https://www.johnclarketherapy.com/https://www.instagram.com/johnclarketherapy/https://www.tiktok.com/@johnclarketherapyhttps://www.youtube.com/@johnclarketherapyGrab Your Seat for the Free IFS Webinar Here: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ Free Training - Learn how to integrate the principles of IFS into your therapy practice: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast

Aug 25, 2025 • 52min
From Parts to Parenting: IFS Insights with Anna Vincentz
What if parenting challenges—and therapeutic resistance—make perfect sense? In this episode, John Clarke sits down with Danish IFS therapist and parenting model creator Anna Vincentz to explore how Internal Family Systems (IFS) offers a powerful lens for working with both clients and their families. Anna shares how her personal journey with neurodivergence, trauma, and parenthood led her to develop New Danish Parenting, a model that centers nervous system regulation, attachment, and deep curiosity.This conversation is packed with practical insights for therapists navigating complex systems—inside and out.3 Key Takeaways:⚪ Why “bad behavior” in children and clients is a survival strategy—not a diagnosis—and how to reframe it in session.⚪ How Anna’s New Danish Parenting model bridges IFS, attachment, and practical neurodivergent-informed tools for clinicians.⚪ What to do when your client is “just talking” and not ready to go deeper—without trying to force the model.Guest: Anna VincentzAnna Vincentz is a Certified Level 3 IFS Therapist, Family Therapist, and creator of New Danish Parenting (NDP)—a model designed for parents, therapists, and practitioners seeking deeper understanding of attachment, trauma, and relational healing. Anna specializes in working with neurodivergent and highly sensitive individuals, and brings a compassionate, trauma-informed lens to every session. A mother of two neurodivergent children, Anna integrates her lived experience into both her clinical work and teaching.Learn more about Anna:Website: https://www.annavincentz.dk/englishAbout: https://annavincentz.dk/about-meArticles: https://medium.com/@annavincentz | https://annavincentz.dk/english-blogPodcast: https://creators.spotify.com/pod/profile/parenting-from-the-inside/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ifstherapy_annavincentz/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ifsannavincentzResources & Offerings:Download my Guide to Self-Energy for Practitioners - Get access here: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/self-energy-guide-orgFree Training - Learn how to integrate the principles of IFS into your therapy practice: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast 1-Month Grace Period with Jane – Use code JOHN or visit: https://meet.jane.app/john-clarke-ambassador10% Off at Grounding Well – Use code GWJOHNCLARKE or visit: https://www.groundingwell.com/GWJOHNCLARKE10% Off at Dharma Dr. – Use code JOHN or visit: https://dharmadr.com/JOHNConnect with me:https://www.johnclarketherapy.com/https://www.instagram.com/johnclarketherapy/Grab Your Seat for the Free IFS Webinar Here: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ Free Training - Learn how to integrate the principles of IFS into your therapy practice: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast

Aug 11, 2025 • 42min
Integrating IFS & EMDR for Trauma Recovery with Daphne Fatter
➡️ Free IFS Training for Therapists: From Burnout to Balance: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcastIn this insightful episode of Going Inside, John Clarke sits down with Dr. Daphne Fatter to explore how Internal Family Systems (IFS) and Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) can be integrated for powerful trauma recovery work. Dr. Fatter shares her step-by-step approach to blending these models, offering practical tips for clinicians working with complex trauma. From building client readiness to navigating the nuances of protector parts and exiles, this conversation is packed with concrete strategies, clinical wisdom, and encouragement for therapists ready to deepen their practice.3 Key Takeaways:👉 Why IFS and EMDR complement each other so well in treating complex trauma.👉 How to determine client readiness for EMDR and gain system-wide consent.👉 Practical ways to use parts mapping, befriending, and stabilization tools before reprocessing.Guest:Dr. Daphne Fatter is a licensed psychologist, consultant, author, and international speaker dedicated to providing education on integrative trauma-informed therapies. She is certified in IFS and is an Approved IFS Clinical Consultant. She is also certified in EMDR and is an EMDRIA Approved EMDR Consultant. As a certified ancestral healing practitioner, she also works with intergenerational and historical trauma.Connect with Dr. Daphne Fatter:Website: https://www.daphnefatterphd.comResources & Offerings:➡️ Free IFS Training for Therapists: From Burnout to Balance: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast ➡️ 1-Month Grace Period with Jane – Use code JOHN or visit: https://meet.jane.app/john-clarke-ambassador ➡️ 10% Off at Grounding Well – Use code GWJOHNCLARKE or visit: https://www.groundingwell.com/GWJOHNCLARKE ➡️ 10% Off at Dharma Dr. – Use code JOHN or visit: https://dharmadr.com/JOHN Connect with me:https://www.johnclarketherapy.com/ https://www.instagram.com/johnclarketherapy/ https://www.tiktok.com/@johnclarketherapy https://www.youtube.com/@johnclarketherapyGrab Your Seat for the Free IFS Webinar Here: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ Free Training - Learn how to integrate the principles of IFS into your therapy practice: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast

Aug 4, 2025 • 56min
Bob Falconer on IFS, Spirituality, and Trauma
In this soul-stirring conversation, IFS pioneer Bob Falconer returns to explore the intersection of Internal Family Systems (IFS), spirituality, and trauma healing. We discuss how trauma creates separation, the necessity of spiritual connection in deep healing, and how curiosity can be a transformative force. Bob shares insight from his upcoming books and over 50 years of clinical experience, emphasizing the porous nature of the mind and the healing power of respectful engagement with all parts of the self—both personal and transpersonal. This episode is a heartfelt invitation to open your inner world with compassion and wonder.3 Key Takeaways:A surprising reason why many trauma survivors don’t fully heal—and what might be missing.The two types of curiosity—and why only one leads to transformation.What Bob means when he says “the mind isn’t just multiple... it’s porous.”👤 Guest: Robert FalconerRobert Falconer is a dedicated therapist, teacher, and global educator of the IFS model. Author of The Others Within Us, Bob brings over five decades of experience to his work exploring the porous nature of the mind, particularly in the context of trauma and spiritual experiences. His latest books, Opening the Inner World and Spirit Speaks, delve into the intersection of IFS, mysticism, and healing.Get your copy of Opening the Inner World and Spirit Speaks: https://swedenborg.com/product/opening-the-inner-world/Resources & Offerings:➡️Register for a FREE IFS Training "From Burnout to Balance": https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-yt➡️ Download my FREE IFS Resource Library - Get access here: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-resource-library➡️ Register for a FREE IFS Training "From Burnout to Balance": https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ 1-Month Grace Period with Jane – Use code JOHN or visit: https://meet.jane.app/john-clarke-ambassador ➡️ 10% Off at Grounding Well – Use code GWJOHNCLARKE or visit: https://www.groundingwell.com/GWJOHNCLARKE ➡️ 10% Off at Dharma Dr. – Use code JOHN or visit: https://dharmadr.com/JOHNConnect with me:https://www.johnclarketherapy.com/https://www.instagram.com/johnclarketherapy/https://www.tiktok.com/@johnclarketherapyhttps://www.youtube.com/@johnclarketherapyTranscript:Bob Falconer: [00:00:00] And McGilchrist makes this wonderful point, which at first really pissed me off, but usually when there's a radical new idea, it pisses me off at first because it takes me out of my comfort zone. He says, how we pay attention is a moral act, and I think how we pay attention is a choice like that, that determines the nature of the world we live in.John Clarke: Going Inside is a podcast on a mission to help people heal from trauma and reconnect witGrab Your Seat for the Free IFS Webinar Here: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast➡️ Free Training - Learn how to integrate the principles of IFS into your therapy practice: https://go.johnclarketherapy.com/ifs-webinar-podcast

Jul 28, 2025 • 39min
The Truth About Healing Complex PTSD with Psychedelics with Will Van Derveer
Dr. Will Van Derveer, a leading psychiatrist and psychedelic therapy researcher, shares fascinating insights into the transformative power of MDMA in trauma recovery. He reveals shocking statistics, such as an 83% recovery rate for treatment-resistant PTSD, and discusses the importance of well-trained therapists to prevent harm. Listeners learn how MDMA enhances emotional connections and self-compassion, while contrasting its effectiveness against traditional SSRIs. The conversation also highlights the need for mindful approaches in psychedelic therapy, emphasizing love and connection as key ingredients in healing.


