
UNBOXED
I’m Jordan Schwarzenberger, Forbes 30 Under 30 entrepreneur and manager of Europe’s biggest creators, The Sidemen.
In this show I'm on a journey to learn from entrepreneurs killing it in the modern world. Why? So I can become the best entrepreneur I can be.
And I’m sharing everything I learn with you, in real time.
I’m super passionate about levelling up, both for myself, and for the next generation of entrepreneurs, to build THE blueprint for true success in 2023 and beyond.
So let's get into it, together.
An Arcade Media and Listen Production
You can find more UNBOXED content on social @unboxedwithjordan.
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Latest episodes

Mar 15, 2023 • 22min
17: Jude Taylor and Saam Zonoozi: From Meme Page to Luxury Brand Picante in 2 years
This week, founders of luxury clothing brand Picante, Jude and Saam, join Jordan to talk about the evolution of their clothing brand. Having a social-native approach to fashion, the pair discuss their origin story: from meme page, to merch to luxury product - they have a hugely successful product launched and promoted by creators. From coworkers at Burberry to now co-founders of two years, some of their social campaigns include the viral 'Class of 2022' which saw them collaborate with influencers Flossie Clegg, Lewys Ball, Issac Carew and many more. Jordan delves into their strategy and inspiration behind the campaigns, and the value and credibility creators have brought to their brand.
00:00 - 03:00 - How Picante began
03:00 - 04:00 - Their marketing campaigns
04:10 - 06:20 - How they work with creators
06:20 - 09:09 - Misunderstandings between the costs and the audience
09:09 - 13:25 - What they learnt from working at Burberry & what their roles were there
13:25 - 16:35 - Campagins they've launched with creators
16:35 - 18:55 - Launching a Picante cocktail
18:55 - Creators they love at the moment
Jude and Saam's favourite creators right now
Jude's - Mateo The Pasta Man: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHuETi6--uh8-g-_7fdEJhw
Saam's - Gstaad Guy: https://www.youtube.com/@GstaadGuy/videos

Mar 8, 2023 • 27min
16: Max Baledge and George Clarke: From L'Oreal Intern to Investigating Tiktokers Like Paul Breach
This week’s guests are podcast hosts and TikTok creators: Max Baledge and George Clarke. In the episode, the pair talk about why their venture into long form content was vital for their careers and why having different types of content has been so pivotal to their success together. Max discusses his journey from working at L’Oréal as an intern to being on an influencer campaign with the brand a few years later, whilst George states how he transitioned from sports science at university to millions of likes across his content on TikTok. A pair never far from the TikTok rumour mill, they discuss how drama follows them around, why it’s important to the creator ecosystem and exactly how they ended up in the middle of the conversation regarding Paul Breach.
00:00 - 02:25 What is the content about
02:25 - 05:24 dealing with negativity online
05:24 - 08:18 Max's burner facebook account
08:18 - 11:20 The Useless Hotline Podcast - how it came about
11:20 - 11:50 Why longform is important for them as creators
11:50 - 14:30 How they started as creators
14:30 - 15:55 How Max's work found out about his content
15:55 - 16:55 Brand deal with L'Oreal
16:55 - 17:25 Their different comedy styles
17:25 - 19:11 The Paul Breach conversation
19:11 - 22:03 TikTok Live lore and how people earn money from it
22:03 - 23:40 Career highlights
23:40 - 24:35 Career advice to creators
24:35 - Creators they are loving
Max and George's favourite creators right now
Max's is Sally Sue: https://www.tiktok.com/@suesallysue?lang=en
George's is Tommy Solemn: https://www.tiktok.com/@tommysolemn?lang=en

Mar 6, 2023 • 15min
15: Ben and Lewis (Komi Founders): How our Creator Startup Onboarded Lizzo, Addison Rae and Elton John
In this special episode of Unboxed Jordan sits down with the two of Komi's founders: Lewis and Ben to hear about their evolution story with the platform. Komi’s offering is simple: the link-in-bio 2.0 which acts as a one-stop-shop for followers to engage with all aspects of their creators output. After building the platform and onboarding over 2B viewers to Komi, Jordan asks Lewis and Ben about their journey as founders, and what they’ve in turn learnt about the creator economy. Hear about the surprising data they’ve observed whilst working with huge celebrity profiles (like Lizzo and Addison Rae) to their take on the future of monetisation as a creator. This episode is a real insight behind a brand that is empowering and helping to growth hack the creator economy.
This episode is sponsored by Komi. For more information head to https://bit.ly/3J5jgsW

Mar 1, 2023 • 35min
14: Toni Tone: From Advising My Family To Helping 300k Online
Toni Tone is one of the internet’s big sisters, best friends and for some, the best reality check around! Across her online career, she’s provided relationship commentary to her loyal following on Twitter and Instagram, and in this week’s episode of Unboxed, Jordan delves into where this foundation of helping empower people came from. We learn about her early life and relationships, her emergence from online commentator to bestselling author, but importantly - her take on the black female creator landscape, and what needs to change.
From her experience of a problematic black history month booking, Toni explains why she feels black female creators need to stop feeling ‘grateful’ for work - and move towards knowing their worth and value to the creator landscape.
Unafraid to say it how it is, Toni’s episode is empowering, honest and full of actionable advice to many audiences listening to this episode.
00:00 - 01:26 - Toni's role as an advice giver
01:26 - 04:00 - How Toni's found being vulnerable online
04:00 - 06:00 - Her view on cancel culture
06:00 - 07:20 - The importance of valuing what you do
07:20 - 11:33 - Her process of writing a book and the credibility it's brought her as a creator
11:33 - 14:23 - How Toni has previously costing up her content (before and after management)
14:23 - 19:00 - Her best and worst experience working with brands
19:00 - 21:00 - Toni's advice to creators
21:00 - 23:00 - An exclusive of what Toni's third book is about
23:00 - 25:21 - Why Toni feels it's important to include men's POV in the sex and relationships conversation
25:21 - 29:22 - Common themes and questions in Toni's DM's
29:22 - 30:30 - Toni's advice to new creators
30:30 - Toni's favourite creators
Toni's favourite creator right now!
Tomi's music: https://www.tiktok.com/@tomimusic?_t=8aEVWQXT6AP&_r=1
This episode is sponsored by Komi. For more information head to: https://bit.ly/3J5jgsW

Feb 22, 2023 • 28min
13: Max and Harvey, from teen social media stars to international music artists
Twins and TikTok content creators: Max and Harvey join Jordan on this episode of UNBOXED. Finding fame in their early teens on social media, has meant the twins have a unique perspective in how the landscape has changed over the years, and how it's impacted them as child stars. As actors in the West End, musicians via musical.ly and now content creators on TikTok we hear how the last five years have shaped them as people and artists, and how working together has made them even stronger.
Hear about behind the scenes moments from their time on X Factor including how they challenged Simon Cowell as well as fan feedback, and how they plan and construct their content.
00:00 - 02:10 - How their career started
02:10 - 04:34 - Music, podcasting and becoming creator
04:35 - 07:00 - How their twin dynamic helps their collaboration
07:00 - 10.10 - X factor and challenging Simon Cowell
10.10 - 11.43 - Predictions of the TV landscape and how creators affect this
11.43 - 13:50 - Their frustrations with TV production and how they’d like it to change
13:50 - 15:50- Their advice to producers and traditional media
15:50 - 18:00 - How they have honed their style as creators and actors
18:05 - 18:58 - Their fanbase feedback
19:00 - 22:16 - The future for Max and Harvey
22:16 - END - Creators they are loving right now
Max and Harvey's favourite creators right now!
Danny Duncan: https://www.youtube.com/@danny
JVKE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnKJjo3K-ec
This episode is sponsored by Komi. For more information head to https://bit.ly/3J5jgsW

Feb 15, 2023 • 21min
12: Niall Gray on finding your niche and creating comedic content online
Capital Radio presenter, personality and content creator Niall Gray, knows a thing or two about going viral. Speaking with Jordan on this week’s episode of Unboxed, Niall discusses his content career to date and where he finds inspiration for his videos. From his 'Greatest Car Show Ever' series, 'Thoughts At The Pub' or 'Every School DJ' videos, Niall has found his niche in translating relatable cringeworthy moments into hilarious sketch scenes.
Hear him discuss working with friends, how he landed his job at Capital from his content online, and where he sees the creator economy going in the next few years.
00:00 - 00:35 - What Niall creates
00:35 - 2:00 - His creative process
2:00 - 5:00 - How Niall got into radio from his content online
5:00 - 8:26 - Breaking down his series 'thoughts at the pub'
8:26 - 10:26 - How to keep up with new formats
10:26 - 12:25 - How his work is being recognised and working with brands
12:25 - 13:10 - Niall's message to creators about working with brands
13:20 -16:59 - Niall's comedy references and inspirations
16:59 - 17:45 - Finding your niche
17:45 - 19:00 - Becoming a creator: Is it too late?
19:00 - Niall's favourite creators and his handles
Niall's must see creator:
https://www.youtube.com/@coleandersonj
You can find more UNBOXED content on social @unboxedwithjordan.
A Listen production, with Arcade Media.
This episode is sponsored by Komi. For more information head to https://bit.ly/3J5jgsW

Feb 8, 2023 • 33min
11: Sunil Singhvi on working at Instagram, the challenges they face and how to make passive income as creators
For the past 15 years, Sunil has built an incredible career holding senior titles at tech giants such as Twitter, Instagram and also COO at James Grant, now known as YMU. Sunil has worked closely with creators during his roles, and has always understood the intricate details of the major apps demands and needs.
Sunil joins Jordan to discuss the struggles Instagram is facing and why TikTok is making every platform work for their space in the market. He offers his advice as to where he believe creators should starting out and what opportunities NFT’s could bring creators long-term.
00:00 - 01:00 - Who Sunil is and his background working at Instagram
01:00 - 05:20 - Instagrams platform issues and why TikTok has bought it challenges
05:20 - 06:40 - the interest around BeReal and what Instagram can learn
06:40 - 08:00 - Working with creators
08:00 - 12:00 - The difference between creators and those with a lot of followers
12:00 - 18:00 - Opportunities for creators and thinking about passing income
18:00 - 19:20 - How video has evolved on Instagram
19:20 - 21.24 - How TikTok is coming for YouTube and how YouTube are responding
21.34 - 23.30 - Where he would advise creators start out in today's market
23.30 - 25:00 - TikTok’s superpower
25:00 - 26:00 - Sunil’s experience working at Rariable and NFT opportunities
26.17 - Creators Sunil is loving right now
Sunil’s must see creator:
Fearne Cotton: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw0wGD--N6e1y5BO15NXAVg
You can find more UNBOXED content on social @unboxedwithjordan.
A Listen production, with Arcade Media.
This episode is sponsored by Komi. For more information head to
https://bit.ly/3J5jgsW

Feb 1, 2023 • 27min
10: Poet on what it means to be a creator, the value of bringing friends up with you and his experience with cancel culture
Poet is a creator who has pioneered many paths in his career, from football content to music videos and hosting podcasts, he’s always pushed the boundaries and set trends. He sits down with Jordan to open up about the highs and lows of his journey and how his personal values have taken him to the place he's at today.
Poet shares his tips for developing new ideas, how to stay consistent and the importance of having your own world outside of the creator space.
Topics discussed in this episode
00:00 - 2:10 - What does it mean to be a creator?
02:10 - 04:44 - Where Poet gets his ideas from
04:44 - 07:20 - Where it all began for Poet
07:20 - 09:20 - The value of bringing everyone up with you
09:20 - 11.33 - The struggle with creators feeling like a commodity and brands
11.35 -18:00 - The story of COPA90 and the impact of the format
18:00 - 22:22 - Poet’s experience with being 100% himself and cancel culture
22:22 - 23:15 - What’s next for Poet and a piece of advice for a new creator
23:15 - Creators that Poet loves
Poet’s must see creators:
https://www.youtube.com/@billythegoatTV/featured
https://www.instagram.com/pk_humble/?hl=en
https://www.youtube.com/c/SpecsGonzalez?app=desktop
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1F_20FzlcnC38qMY4JjjDg
https://www.youtube.com/@Elainebabey
You can find more UNBOXED content on social @unboxedwithjordan.
A Listen production, with Arcade Media.
This episode is sponsored by Komi. For more information head to https://bit.ly/3J5jgsW

Jan 25, 2023 • 29min
9: Patricia Bright on longevity, financial literacy and her business The Break Social
YouTube legend Patricia Bright has built an impressive career over the last eleven years and why creating new eras for yourself is vital for long-term success. She joins Jordan on UNBOXED to reveal how she’s continually developed her career and kept it interesting for herself and her audience. Patricia shares the lessons she’s had to face when looking for good management, and what creators need to look out for when finding a good fit.
Topics discussed in this episode:
01:30 - 05:00 - How Patricia got into the industry
05:00 - 07:00 - Creating boundaries around content and personal life
07:00 - 09:30 - Why Patricia started creating content about finance and her own learnings
09:30 - 10.45 - The turning point when she moved into full-time content creation
10:50 - 14:00 - Her experience with bad management and what to look out for
14:00 - 16:30 - Advice to creators looking for management
16:30 - 17:30 - Having those money conversations as a creator
17:58 - 20:00 - The need for regulation in the industry
20:00 - 23:00 - Insights into ‘The Break Social’ and the business behind it
23:00 -25:10 - Dealing with a poverty mindset
25:15 - 26:10 - The future of the creator economy
26:10 - 27:00 - Her piece of advice for creators today
27:00 - End - A creator she loves at the moment (HighLowLuxee)
Highlowluxxee social: https://www.youtube.com/c/highlowluxxe
You can find more UNBOXED content on social @unboxedwithjordan.
A Listen production, with Arcade Media.
This episode is sponsored by Komi. For more information head to https://bit.ly/3J5jgsW

Jan 18, 2023 • 36min
8: Mariam Musa on her Pressed Podcast success, MIMA cosmetics and what it takes to be a creator
YouTuber and fashion creator Mariam Musa joins Jordan on UNBOXED to speak on her truths as a creator.
Mariam speaks on the value of collaboration, how important it is for up-and-coming creators, and how she’s benefited from it in her career. Mariam is in the fashion world, which can be one of the most competitive and difficult spaces within the industry. She opens up and shares her own personal experiences around unfairness that she’s witnessed firsthand.
Topics discussed in this episode
01:33 - 06:33 Mariam’s inspiration and building her audience
06:53 - 07.58 Mariam’s fashion videos and their success
07.03 - 10.18 The value of creator collab’s
10.23 - 16:55 unfairness and inequality in the industry, and how to look after yourself
16:55 - 18.09 Dealing with the pressure of the industry
18:19 - 21:47 why being vulnerable and open is a superpower
21:48 - 23:38 Pressed Podcast and the opportunities it’s bought
23:40 - 25:39 Working with a production team and the lessons it’s given
25:40 - 29:28 How to find the right side of the line with ‘unfiltered content’ and tips for podcasting
28:28 - 32:20 Mariam’s brand MIMA and launching her first pop up
32:20 - 33:30 Her hopes for the future
33:35 - 34:22 Mariam’s piece of advice for new creators
34:22 Creators she's loving at the moment
Mariam’s must-see creator:
Amelia Dimoldenberg: https://www.youtube.com/@AmeliaDimoldenberg/featured
Chunkz: https://www.youtube.com/@ChunkzEast
Yung Filly: https://www.youtube.com/@YungFilly
Harry Pinero: https://www.youtube.com/@HarryPineroTV
Nella Rose: https://www.youtube.com/@nellarose4758
You can find more UNBOXED content on social @unboxedwithjordan.
A Listen production, with Arcade Media.
This episode is sponsored by Komi. For more information head to https://bit.ly/3J5jgsW