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Chris McCabe and Kee Jefferys, co-founders of the decentralized messaging platform Session, unveil how their app champions user privacy and security. They explain the innovative features that eliminate the need for phone numbers and user data, employing onion routing for anonymity. The duo shares insights on organic user growth during global conflicts, the role of their Session token, and how they balance privacy with usability. Delve into their vision for a surveillance-free messaging future, where users can communicate freely without trusting centralized platforms.

Santiago Santos, an investor at Inversion Capital focusing on crypto transformation of traditional businesses, and Jason Badeaux from Daylight, advocating for energy subscriptions, join a roundtable discussion. They explore Bitcoin's role in decentralized physical infrastructure networks and the fundraising hurdles faced by fund managers. The conversation shifts to innovative energy models and the synergy between DeFi and real-world infrastructure. Insights spill over into the evolving token landscape and the challenges of aligning user needs with tokenomics, all with an optimistic eye on DePIN's future.

Follow Proof of Coverage Media: https://x.com/Proof_CoverageConnor welcomes back Alireza Ghods, co-founder of Natix, to discuss a major milestone for the company. Alireza announces a game-changing partnership with Grab, Southeast Asia’s leading super app—a strategic alliance that positions Grab as a key data customer for Natix’s VX360 product while granting Natix access to Grab’s advanced mapping technology. This marks a significant leap forward in Natix’s mission to build the world’s largest camera infrastructure without owning any cameras. Since December 2024, the company has grown rapidly, with nearly 250,000 registered drivers and over 170 million kilometers mapped across 171 countries. With VX360—an innovative 360-degree video plugin for Tesla vehicles—now shipping ahead of schedule, Alireza offers an inside look at how this partnership will unlock new revenue streams, accelerate autonomous mapmaking, and reshape the future of mobility.Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction01:25 - Introduction to Natix and VX36001:35 - State of the Network: Growth and Updates02:12 - Shipping and User Experience of VX36003:41 - Announcement of Partnership with Grab04:58 - Details of the Partnership and Its Benefits08:04 - Economic Aspects of the Partnership10:22 - Focus on Data Collection and Monetization Strategy13:35 - Future Plans and Excitement for Autonomous Driving14:39 - Closing Remarks and Call to Action for Tesla DriversDisclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

Follow Proof of Coverage Media: https://x.com/Proof_CoverageConnor and Sal spoke with Michael Cho about the future of robotics and AI, highlighting his projects FrodoBots and the new BitRobot network. Michael explained the challenges of testing embodied AI in the real world and introduced the idea of cross-embodiment—training models using data from diverse robots. He also shared how BitRobot uses crypto incentives to crowdsource data and how the meme coin SAM helps build community in a low-pressure way. The conversation offered a fun and thoughtful look into where robotics is headed.Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction01:47 - Intersection of Robotics and AI02:50 - Real-World Evaluation vs. Digital AI06:00 - The Importance of Real-World Testing07:07 - Mapping and Navigation in Robotics08:12 - Value of Real-World Data for AI09:38 - Differences in Data Utility13:07 - Exploring Different Robotic Form Factors14:04 - Cross-Embodiment in Robotics16:35 - Introduction to BitRobot17:30 - Transition from Frotobots to BitRobot20:08 - Collaboration with Researchers and Competitions22:05 - Future Plans for BitRobot24:27 - The Role of Meme Coins in Community Building27:46 - Conclusion Disclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

Follow Proof of Coverage Media: https://x.com/Proof_CoverageConnor sits down with Anna Kazlauskas, co-founder of Vana, to explore the intersection of AI and user-owned data. They discuss the resurgence of the crypto scene in San Francisco, fueled by advancements in AI, and the impact of DeepSeek on model training efficiency and data privacy. Anna shares her journey from MIT to co-founding Vana, a layer one blockchain enabling programmable data rights for AI. She introduces the concept of data DAOs—user-owned data collectives that negotiate better terms with platforms—highlighting the shift toward self-sovereign digital identities. The conversation also covers Vana’s tokenomics and its mission to address AI’s data shortage by empowering users with control and incentives.Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction01:45 - Impact of DeepSeek on AI and User Privacy04:22 - User Awareness and Data Storage Concerns06:28 - The Shift in AI Narrative07:14 - Anna's Journey into User-Owned Data10:45 - Vana's Technical Framework and Privacy12:20 - The Need for Data Sovereignty in AI13:27 - Building a Layer 1 Blockchain15:51 - Data DAOs: A New Approach to Data Ownership17:15 - Understanding Data DAOs and Their Function22:47 - The Role of Data Ownership in Social Platforms24:51 - Negotiating Better Terms for Data Ownership26:40 - Bringing Data to Vana and AI Applications28:09 - Privacy-Preserving Compute Solutions29:22 - Tokenomics of Vana30:55 - Data DAO Specific Tokens and Their Role31:22 - Final Thoughts on Vana's Vision32:30 - Where to Find More InformationDisclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

Follow Proof of Coverage Media: https://x.com/Proof_CoverageConnor chats with Rob Solomon, co-founder of DIMO, about the project’s steady evolution through the crypto market’s ups and downs. Rob explains how DIMO enables cars to access and share their data securely—unlocking use cases like EV owners monetizing charging data via carbon offsets. They discuss how blockchain powers trustless data sharing, the user experience of representing cars as NFTs, and the growing developer ecosystem with nearly 200 licenses issued. Rob also previews upcoming enterprise partnerships and invites users and builders to explore the DIMO platform.Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction01:00 - Market Cycles02:26 - Vision and Progress Over Two Years03:40 - Use Cases and App Ecosystem06:42 - Real-World Value Beyond Crypto07:25 - Web2 Integrations and User Benefits10:02 - On-Chain Data and User Permissions11:01 - Explaining DIMO to Crypto Users14:09 - Developer Engagement and Access to Data15:58 - User Opt-In and Data Monetization18:31 - Revenue Generation and DIMO Token Dynamics20:05 - Enterprise Customer Insights22:16 - Go-to-Market Strategies and Supply Growth23:42 - Call to Action for Users and DevelopersDisclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

Anirudh Pai, a partner at Dragonfly Capital, dives into the world of crypto VC and decentralized technologies. He shares crucial strategies for founders to attract investors through genuine customer engagement and innovative products. The conversation explores the exciting rise of decentralized physical infrastructure networks (DePIN) and the revolutionary potential of commodity currencies like electrodollars. Anirudh also discusses challenges in decentralized energy markets and highlights the importance of community and shared values in urban development.

Follow Proof of Coverage Media: https://x.com/Proof_CoverageConnor is joined by Sal Gala (EV3), Florian Fournier (Threefold), and Jose Aycart (Share) to announce the DePIN Summit 2025 in Africa and discuss its significance. They explore the region’s potential for technological disruption, the importance of local engagement and government collaboration, and the role of decentralized internet networks in driving innovation. With Africa already leading in digital payments and primed for new advancements, the Summit aims to connect global and local tech communities at a crucial moment for growth. The conversation highlights DePIN as a framework for new business models and the transformative opportunities ahead.Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction 03:01 - DePIN: A Global Perspective05:55 - The Significance of Africa in the DePIN Movement08:49 - Building Infrastructure: Local Engagement and Government Relations12:11 - Innovations in Internet Connectivity in Africa15:09 - The Future of DePIN: Vision for the Summit18:02 - Excitement for the Upcoming DePIN Summit20:51 - ConclusionDisclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

Follow Proof of Coverage Media: https://x.com/Proof_CoverageConnor and co-host James Lovely, an expert in structured financial products, welcome Brandon Goh, CEO and Co-founder of Treehouse Finance, to explore the intersection of traditional finance (TradFi) and decentralized finance (DeFi). Goh shares his journey from Morgan Stanley to crypto, discussing how innovations like Uniswap reshaped his perspective. The conversation covers risk and return in borrowing rates, Ethereum’s proof-of-stake system as a crypto equivalent to the risk-free rate, and the differences between Ethereum and Bitcoin. Goh introduces Treehouse’s T-Asset product, which enhances liquid staking yields through arbitrage strategies, and highlights the importance of decentralized benchmark rates like the Decentralized Offered Rate (D.O.R). They also examine risks such as rehypothecation and the need for reliable data in DeFi, concluding with a discussion on institutional adoption and the infrastructure required for its growth.Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction03:09 - Brandon's Transition from TradFi to Crypto05:12 - Core Concepts of Borrowing Rates in TradFi07:59 - On-Chain Rates and Their Implications09:05 - Comparing Bitcoin and Ethereum as Risk-Free Rates12:22 - Staking Yield as a Risk-Free Rate Analogy14:08 - Liquid Staking Explained21:34 - Treehouse's T-Asset Product Overview23:46 - Decentralized Finance and Risk Considerations29:30 - Institutional Involvement in DeFi31:12 - Expanding to Other Chains and Market Strategy32:34 - Introduction to Decentralized Offered Rates (DOR)41:34 - Building a Decentralized Benchmark Rate48:09 - Incentives and Accuracy in the DOR FrameworkDisclaimer: The hosts and the firms they represent may hold stakes in the companies mentioned in this podcast. None of this is financial advice.

Vinny Lingham, a prominent figure in crypto and tech known for his work with Civic, discusses his personal health transformation and the documentary 'Animal' about the carnivore diet. He reflects on the 2018-2019 crypto winter and shares insights on the evolving regulatory landscape. Lingham highlights how decentralized AI and projects like Render and Vast.ai could disrupt traditional data centers. He encourages listeners to challenge established health and tech narratives, fostering deeper discussions about innovation and well-being.