
The Other Others
Through the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab (NIKERI, Deakin University), we have unlikely, cheeky and kind of inappropriate yarns with surprising people about how an Indigenous complexity science lens can be applied to solving the world's most wicked problems. Intro theme by Regurgitator.
Latest episodes

May 30, 2025 • 1h 28min
Sustainability Secret Sauce
Dive into a spirited discussion on redefining sustainability without guilt or fear. Explore how biomass equity could reshape capitalism and ecological value. Discover the complexities of money creation and its environmental impact, advocating for innovative financial models. Engage with community-driven regenerative projects that elevate property values while fostering sustainability. The metaphor of a strangler fig illustrates adaptability in economic systems. Plus, navigate challenges in housing stability with creative community solutions.

May 26, 2025 • 37min
Indigenous Kodesign
Jack Manning-Bancroft from the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab shares insights about co-design and its alignment with Indigenous practices. He discusses the creation of a 'law stick', representing biocultural connections to land. The conversation dives into the importance of interconnectedness in Indigenous worldviews and its implications for modern environmental practices. They explore how AI can visualize Indigenous knowledge, making it more accessible. Finally, they discuss using virtual worlds to facilitate meaningful dialogues and the role of digital tools in preserving cultural narratives.

Feb 7, 2025 • 1h 27min
Alt Finance, Meme Coins and Face Time Prank Guy
JMB, a visionary in alternative economies and finance, dives into the complexities of nature-based financial models. The conversation navigates the interconnectedness of community dynamics and explores how emotional connections challenge traditional economic systems. JMB discusses the power of meme culture in modern finance, highlighting its social impacts and real-world implications. They also analyze the underrated film 'Blink Twice,' which critiques power dynamics while promoting resilience and hope for a sustainable future.

Jan 23, 2025 • 2h 20min
Greenland, Q Shaman and Snakes
The Viking Yarns are back! Rune Rasmussen in our most coherent yarn yet. I must have needed the break. I was tired as hell. Anyway, the phrase that sticks out for me is about new-ageism as 'European self-colonising whiteness'. Some deadly Viking serpent Lore as well.

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Nov 14, 2024 • 1h 29min
Gum Tree Embassy
Gabriella Romero and Nkwi Flores, members of Amazon Andes First Peoples, share their insights on Indigenous borderwork and migration. They explore the symbolism of eucalyptus trees in diaspora and their connection to cultural heritage. The conversation takes a turn to discuss the complexities of the US elections from an Indigenous perspective, analyzing how political dynamics influence marginalized communities. Personal narratives and ecological connections add depth to their reflections on belonging in an ever-changing world.

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Oct 23, 2024 • 1h 54min
Post-truth Metacrisis
Join Kabir Kadre, a wounded mystic, and Eric Hekler, a former techno-utopian, as they dive into the chaotic shifts of truth and belief in today's world. They explore the complex interplay of language and power, dissecting ideological divides in Western academia. The duo also reflects on personal experiences merging science and indigenous wisdom, advocating for holistic understanding in mental health. Finally, they tackle the global implications of political unrest, emphasizing community narratives and the urgent need for compassionate discourse.

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Aug 23, 2024 • 1h 36min
Biocultural Economy
In this engaging discussion, guests JMB, a regenerative finance expert, Tyson, who explores bioregional economies, and Josh from IKSLab delve into creating sustainable economic systems. They examine how to establish relational economies without harmful extractive practices. Key topics include the integration of Indigenous knowledge, innovative governance models, and the importance of valuing nature. The conversation also touches on the connection between ecological relationships and community well-being, emphasizing the need for inclusivity and holistic approaches in today's economic landscape.

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Jul 23, 2024 • 1h 31min
Green Terra Nullius
Pete McCurley, a Gumbaynggirr carver and advocate for cultural fire management, shares his insights on the complexities of indigenous land care. He reveals the challenges of cultural fire management amidst surveillance and sabotage while highlighting the misconceptions surrounding nature. The conversation dives into the balance between invasive species and biocultural systems, the importance of traditional ecological practices, and how historical narratives impact today’s environmental management. Plus, discover how radiata pine can be transformed into artisan tools!

Jul 16, 2024 • 22min
Rant 5
Walking country, reading the land and the flows and feeling what these sentient systems want to create with us, and it's all fabulous, but we're not listening to women the same way, and the land won't speak to us fully until we get that right.

Jun 21, 2024 • 1h 19min
Mycelium Fandom
Rishikes Siva, expert in biomimicry and Lunar Punk rhizomatic riffs, explores the divide between Solarpunk and Lunarpunk ideologies, mycelium as a metaphorical framework, interconnectedness in nature, group dynamics, technology evolution, indigenous wisdom, commercialization of spiritual practices, and future technology trends in AI.