
The Other Others
Through the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab (NIKERI, Deakin University), we have unlikely, cheeky and kind of inappropriate yarns with surprising people about how an Indigenous complexity science lens can be applied to solving the world's most wicked problems. Intro theme by Regurgitator.
Latest episodes

May 15, 2024 • 1h 29min
Toxic Border Stories
Emily McAvan queers up our ongoing narratives of embassy and quarantine as kin making rather than exclusion, as we dig deep into the foundational spiritual narratives of Purity, Toxicity, Pollution and Contagion that dominate all policy and practice around the most explosive issues of our time - immigration, medicine and wellness, environmental issues, free speech and media, marriage equality, and those pesky trans kids who think they have a right to piss and play sport.

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May 10, 2024 • 1h 20min
Relational Economy Thought Experiment
They say leap and the net appears, but Jack Manning Bancroft at the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab is riffing on some emergent para-financial systems that offer something better to splash into, a soft landing for everyone. It's so crazy it just might work. While there may be no Apple sweat-shop safety nets here, we can all return to identities and investments grounded in place and kin, if we really want to.

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Apr 29, 2024 • 1h 25min
Naturalising Weeds and Money
Join Parul Punjabi Jagdish, Nawi Flores, Abdul Semakula, Suzanna Bowles, Lydia Campbell, and Paul Kearney in a vibrant dialogue about intertwining indigenous wisdom with ecology and the evolving concept of value. They explore the naturalization of invasive species like Japanese knotweed and the significance of eucalyptus in cultural heritage. The guests advocate for rethinking money's role in sustainable ecosystems, emphasizing community over material worth. Through lively discussions and symbolic songs, they invite listeners to envision a harmonious relationship between nature and economy.

Mar 28, 2024 • 10min
Easter Rant
Love eggs to you my siblings

Mar 28, 2024 • 1h 14min
Love Magic and Ceremony
Dougald Hine, author of "At Work in the Ruins," discusses the importance of love and ceremony amidst societal collapse. He shares insights on how community connections can foster transformative change. The conversation spans dreams versus responsibilities, the balance of political ideologies, and the vital role of storytelling in climate communication. Hine emphasizes the power of shared love and rituals to build resilience, highlighting how they can help navigate today's complex challenges.

Feb 19, 2024 • 10min
Rant 2
Film review of Wish and Napoleon. Conclusion: revolutions suck.

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Feb 16, 2024 • 1h 18min
De-pioneering: From Offsets to Resets
Exploring indigenous knowledge for sustainable solutions in environmental protection, redefining value of land and plants through economic investments, and shifting perspectives towards circular economy practices. Highlighting the importance of land ownership, sustainability, and education in addressing societal challenges like homelessness and climate change.

Feb 9, 2024 • 1h 29min
You're All Rite. Snake World.
IKSLab setting circle for Wanjau (collective sense-making yarn) around the possibility for global serpent Lores from every continent to inform common agreements on reality and embassy protocols in a post-truth world, sidelining bad faith discourse and holding creation together, together. Hat man snake painted by JMB.

Feb 9, 2024 • 10min
Rant 1
Need an outlet for rage, so I can avoid freaking out and finishing up in handcuffs. So new short segment, angry words and not much thinking.

Jan 28, 2024 • 3min
New Intro Tune or Nah?
This one by Quan Yeomans has to get past three hurdles. 1 Spotify AI. 2 You. 3 The blak women who sing the current intro.
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