

How Not To Suck At Divorce
Morgan Stogsdill and Andrea Rappaport
How Not to Suck at Divorce is the divorce podcast for people who want clarity, strategy, and support—not drama, shame, or sugarcoating.
Hosted by powerhouse family law attorney Morgan Stogsdill, head of family law at the largest firm in the country, and comedian-turned-marketing-guru Andrea Rappaport, this show helps you avoid the most common (and costly) divorce mistakes while protecting your kids, your finances, and your sanity.
How Not to Suck at Divorce offers you divorce guidance that only the really wealthy can afford.
Each episode breaks down what actually matters during divorce—custody, co-parenting, negotiations, communication, and decision-making—using real-world examples, practical tools, and a refreshingly honest approach. You’ll learn what to tell your lawyer (and what to tell your friends), how to manage emotions without letting them derail your case, and how to move forward even when the process isn’t over.
Whether you’re thinking about divorce, in the middle of it, or trying to rebuild your life after, How Not to Suck at Divorce gives you the information you need, the validation you deserve, and the confidence to make better decisions—one step at a time.
Morgan Stogsdill has seen every curveball, knows the difference between drama and strategy, and helps clients avoid costly mistakes. Andrea Rappaport has made the exact painful mistakes we beg you not to repeat. Together, we’ve built a podcast that blends courtroom-level insight with compassionate, practical moves you can use the second the episode ends.
What We Cover
Should I stay or should I go? Decision-making frameworks, acronyms, and step-by-step exercises for clarity.
Co-parenting and high-conflict personalities. We unpack narcissist dynamics, manipulation tactics, and non-reactive communication. (We even created a framework called “WTF” to help you remember it when your brain is on fire.)
The BIFF method and conflict de-escalation. With Bill Eddy of the High Conflict Institute, we translate his tools into real-world texts and emails you can send without blowing up your case.
Tech safety and AI mistakes. Steven Bradley, former FBI agent and digital safety expert
Prenups, financial transparency, and power dynamics. Guests like Katie Post share what to include, what to avoid, and how to start the conversation before things go off the rails.
That’s our recipe: expert interviews + practical tools + humor that keeps you breathing. Episodes are short enough for a dog walk but deep enough to change your next decision.
Who You’ll Hear
Bill Eddy (High Conflict Institute): BIFF and EAR techniques, parallel parenting, and communication guardrails.
Steven Bradley (former FBI “Tech Cowboy”): Digital breadcrumbs, evidence handling, and how AI can backfire in divorce.
Dr. Nadine Macaluso (therapist, trauma specialist): Love-bombing, trauma bonds, and healing after divorce.
Joanna Strober (Midi Health): Resilience, perimenopause, career pivots, and financial autonomy.
Core Topics
Divorce Strategy & Family Law: prenups, mediation vs. litigation, custody agreements, relocation, settlement strategy.
High-Conflict & Safety: coercive control, gaslighting, BIFF, protective orders, tech hygiene. Co-Parenting & Parallel Parenting: calendars, school/holiday schedules, and communication protocols. Money & Power: financial disclosure, tracing assets, budgeting, and managing fees.Mindset & Mental Health: compartmentalizing, trigger management, boundary scripts, and choosing the right therapist or coach.
Our show is both resourceful and entertaining. You’ll laugh, take notes, and walk away feeling less alone. How Not to Suck at Divorce has become a trusted resource worldwide.
Whether you’re in the middle of a divorce, just considering it, or rebuilding afterward, this podcast helps you breathe easier, protect your sanity, and avoid the mistakes that cost people the most.
You’ll get through this. We promise. You’ve got this… and we’ve got you.
Hosted by powerhouse family law attorney Morgan Stogsdill, head of family law at the largest firm in the country, and comedian-turned-marketing-guru Andrea Rappaport, this show helps you avoid the most common (and costly) divorce mistakes while protecting your kids, your finances, and your sanity.
How Not to Suck at Divorce offers you divorce guidance that only the really wealthy can afford.
Each episode breaks down what actually matters during divorce—custody, co-parenting, negotiations, communication, and decision-making—using real-world examples, practical tools, and a refreshingly honest approach. You’ll learn what to tell your lawyer (and what to tell your friends), how to manage emotions without letting them derail your case, and how to move forward even when the process isn’t over.
Whether you’re thinking about divorce, in the middle of it, or trying to rebuild your life after, How Not to Suck at Divorce gives you the information you need, the validation you deserve, and the confidence to make better decisions—one step at a time.
Morgan Stogsdill has seen every curveball, knows the difference between drama and strategy, and helps clients avoid costly mistakes. Andrea Rappaport has made the exact painful mistakes we beg you not to repeat. Together, we’ve built a podcast that blends courtroom-level insight with compassionate, practical moves you can use the second the episode ends.
What We Cover
Should I stay or should I go? Decision-making frameworks, acronyms, and step-by-step exercises for clarity.
Co-parenting and high-conflict personalities. We unpack narcissist dynamics, manipulation tactics, and non-reactive communication. (We even created a framework called “WTF” to help you remember it when your brain is on fire.)
The BIFF method and conflict de-escalation. With Bill Eddy of the High Conflict Institute, we translate his tools into real-world texts and emails you can send without blowing up your case.
Tech safety and AI mistakes. Steven Bradley, former FBI agent and digital safety expert
Prenups, financial transparency, and power dynamics. Guests like Katie Post share what to include, what to avoid, and how to start the conversation before things go off the rails.
That’s our recipe: expert interviews + practical tools + humor that keeps you breathing. Episodes are short enough for a dog walk but deep enough to change your next decision.
Who You’ll Hear
Bill Eddy (High Conflict Institute): BIFF and EAR techniques, parallel parenting, and communication guardrails.
Steven Bradley (former FBI “Tech Cowboy”): Digital breadcrumbs, evidence handling, and how AI can backfire in divorce.
Dr. Nadine Macaluso (therapist, trauma specialist): Love-bombing, trauma bonds, and healing after divorce.
Joanna Strober (Midi Health): Resilience, perimenopause, career pivots, and financial autonomy.
Core Topics
Divorce Strategy & Family Law: prenups, mediation vs. litigation, custody agreements, relocation, settlement strategy.
High-Conflict & Safety: coercive control, gaslighting, BIFF, protective orders, tech hygiene. Co-Parenting & Parallel Parenting: calendars, school/holiday schedules, and communication protocols. Money & Power: financial disclosure, tracing assets, budgeting, and managing fees.Mindset & Mental Health: compartmentalizing, trigger management, boundary scripts, and choosing the right therapist or coach.
Our show is both resourceful and entertaining. You’ll laugh, take notes, and walk away feeling less alone. How Not to Suck at Divorce has become a trusted resource worldwide.
Whether you’re in the middle of a divorce, just considering it, or rebuilding afterward, this podcast helps you breathe easier, protect your sanity, and avoid the mistakes that cost people the most.
You’ll get through this. We promise. You’ve got this… and we’ve got you.
Episodes
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Feb 17, 2022 • 48min
16. Protect Your Finances with Franco La Marca
Thank you for 10k downloads (11.8k to be exact)! Your support means the world to us. Today Morgan and Andrea are stuck in a snowstorm talking to wealth advisor Franco La Marca. Earlier this week Andrea posted on Instagram about financial abuse in a marriage and throughout the divorce process. So many people reached out sharing similar stories and many women said they didn't realize what they were experiencing was actually financial abuse. So they decided to have the financial expert himself, Franco La Marca, join in on the conversation and share 3 essential things everyone should be doing to protect their finances. We would love to hear from you after today's episode. Please feel free to message Morgan @divorceattorneychicago and Andrea @theandrearappaport. You can find Franco La Marca at: www.bernstein.com franco.lamarca@bernstein.com

Feb 10, 2022 • 40min
15. Dating After Divorce With Rob Roseman Of WTF Divorce
Warning: Our favorite F bomb is dropped at 8:52 (thanks Rob!) Just in time for Valentine's Day, Andrea and Morgan are talking love! The love you had, the love for your kids, the excitement of future love and the love for dress shirt on top/pjs on bottom. We are so excited to welcome our special guest Rob Roseman from the popular podcast WTF Divorce. Rob gets really real with us as he talks about his own divorce. Rob hasn't spoken publicly about his experience and we're so honored he chose to share his story with us. Morgan, Andrea and Rob discuss how you decide if you should stick it out for the kids, how checking your ego at the door can help you have an amicable divorce where the kids thrive and the truth about what dating is like in the aftermath. Where to find Rob: WTF Divorce podcast Insta: @wtfdivorce https://www.wtfdivorce.com/

Feb 3, 2022 • 28min
14. The SUCK Acronym to the Rescue
From the floor of Morgan's son's closet, Andrea and Morgan toast Andrea's grandma, talk olive martinis, and how not to suck at divorce. This week they're discussing the importance of taking your time when you're going through the divorce process so you're not reacting from an amped up mental space. You are going to hit a point where you just want to wrap it up because you're exhausted, but there are parts of a divorce that are irreversible and you don't want to make mistakes. So take a breath. Don't forget the SUCK acronym: Set aside an hour before you respond. Don't react. Utilize help. You don't have to go this alone. Lean on your lawyer, your therapist, your friend. Calm yourself. You will make the best strategic decisions when you are level-headed. Knowledge, get it. Don't be afraid to ask your lawyer if there is something you don't understand. Ok friends, tell us what you want to know about Morgan and Andrea and maybe we'll include it in "Decline to Comment" on a future episode! Email your questions to hntsadpodcast@gmail.com Remember, you got this and we got you. And Morgan has Enrique Iglesias.

Jan 27, 2022 • 55min
13. How To Move On with Michelle Dempsey-Multack
We're so excited to be back for Season 2! Today we have a very special guest, Michelle Dempsey-Multack, author of Moms Moving On, divorced mom, certified divorce specialist and coach and podcast host. If you're not yet following Michelle on Instagram, you'll definitely want to check her out @themichelledempsey Join the Moms Moving On community for free here. When you preorder Michelle's book, you'll receive access to a live summit with Michelle and other divorce experts. Be sure to stay until the end for our fun new segment "Decline to Comment". As always, our dms are open. You got this and we got you (unless you need someone to pump your gas, then you're on your own). Morgan Andrea
Dec 23, 2021 • 50min
12. Holiday Party and Season 1 Finale
Join us for our 1st annual holiday party and season 1 finale! From the floor of Morgan's son's closet. We play divorce "would you rather", discuss family dynamics, covid hangovers, and regular hangovers and Andrea sings. Make sure you're subscribed because season 2 drops in January!
Nov 26, 2021 • 43min
11. How Not To Annoy Your Attorney
This week we're talking about how not to annoy your attorney. We're kidding! Kind of. You want to make the most of your time with your legal counsel because, as we're sure you've guessed by now, divorce is a bit pricey. We discuss divorce concierge service, texting your attorney, the importance of a strategy call, why your attorney has junior associates helping on your case and how to best communicate with your legal team. We will also get very real about how much a typical retainer fee will run you, and the broad range of hourly rates. Stay tuned because our holiday party is coming up. Will Cardi B be there? We'll see. Be sure to subscribe, rate and review!
Nov 18, 2021 • 39min
10. Documents Needed For Divorce
On today's episode we're talking about the documents you need for divorce, why they're important to get right and all the feelings you may be feeling as you work through them. We'll walk you through each document so you don't feel overwhelmed. Andrea opens up about her own experience getting divorced during the pandemic and Morgan gets real about how long the whole process can take. As we mention in today's episode, please feel free to DM us on Instagram (unless your name is Chad). We're here to help and support you! @divorceattorneychicago and @theandrearappaport

Oct 7, 2021 • 36min
9. Be a BIFF
Today we're talking about how to prevent things from spiraling out of control. We'll discuss high conflict divorce and the steps to take to maintain your sanity and your safety. Morgan and Andrea will walk you through how to communicate and through which methods, what BIFF means, if a judge can read your emails, how to respond when the other person gets nasty and the hilarious/immature Seth Rogen gifs NOT to send to your soon-to-be ex.

Sep 30, 2021 • 28min
8. High Maintenance (aka Alimony)
This week we’re talking about maintenance (aka alimony). Spoiler alert - high maintenance is a good thing here. This is a topic everyone wants to know about but is afraid to ask so we're breaking it all down. We'll answer your burning questions: How is alimony (or maintenance) different than child support? Who gets maintenance? How do you qualify for maintenance? How easy it is to qualify for maintenance? How much alimony will I get? We'll also discuss the top factors a judge will consider when determining if you’ll get maintenance and how mediation can help both parties get creative to meet the needs of the family. If you're enjoying our podcast, we would love it if you rated and reviewed.

Sep 9, 2021 • 31min
7. How To Cope With Stress
Today we're talking about how to cope with stress while you're going through a divorce. Going through this process is a marathon, not a sprint, and we're here to coach you through it. We'll discuss the importance of optimal cognitive function, and if watching Japanese bug fighting on youtube will help you feel better. Spoiler alert: It will. Maybe.


