

The Tech Leader's Playbook
Avetis Antaplyan
Welcome to your weekly playbook for tech leadership - where founders, executives, and innovators share real strategies for scaling smarter and leading stronger. Hosted by Avetis Antaplyan, Founder and CEO of HIRECLOUT, a global leader in technology and go-to-market recruiting and consulting.
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Dec 4, 2024 • 55min
Empowering Teams for Rapid Decision-Making With Lawrence Eta
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Avetis Antaplyan speaks with Lawrence Eta, a seasoned global technology leader, about his journey from Nigeria to becoming the CTO of Toronto and his transition to Saudi Arabia. They discuss the importance of empowering leadership, navigating the complexities of public service, and the differences in governance and decision-making between democratic and monarchy-based systems. Lawrence shares insights on innovation in public service, successful tech initiatives, and the cultural shifts in the approach to technology and governance. In this conversation, Avetis discusses the complexities of leadership, the balance between authority and empowerment, and the future of smart cities driven by technology. He emphasizes the importance of cultural understanding and emotional intelligence in leadership, sharing insights from his diverse experiences across various countries. The discussion also touches on the significance of modern technology in urban development and the need for leaders to approach their roles with humility and a willingness to learn from others.
Takeaways
Empower your team to make decisions.
A CTO's role involves managing diverse teams.
Strong financial acumen is essential in public service.
Innovation is about failing fast and iterating.
Public service requires a focus on trust and confidence.
Incremental movements can lead to significant change.
Governance structure impacts the speed of transformation.
Cultural differences affect decision-making processes.
Leadership is crucial in managing large teams.
Empowering teams is crucial for effective leadership.
Cultural understanding is key to successful leadership.
Smart cities will leverage AI and IoT for better living.
Emotional intelligence is essential in diverse environments.
The future of urban tech relies on secure data sharing.
Leadership should focus on serving and empowering others.
Building trust is fundamental in leadership roles.
Modern technology must be integrated into urban planning.
Humility in leadership fosters better relationships.
Chapters
00:00 Empowering Leadership and Trust
03:04 Lawrence Eta's Journey to CTO
06:14 A Day in the Life of a CTO
09:02 Navigating Politics and Technology
11:54 Innovation in Public Service
15:10 Successful Tech Initiatives in Toronto
18:02 Transitioning to Saudi Arabia
20:53 Governance and Speed of Transformation
24:09 Cultural Differences in Decision Making
28:33 Leadership Styles: Balancing Authority and Empowerment
34:28 The Future of Smart Cities and Technology
44:12 Bridging Worlds: A Journey Through Leadership and Culture
48:04 Cultural Nuances in Leadership Across Countries
Lawrence Eta’s Website:
https://lawrenceeta.com/
Lawrence Eta’s Social Media Links:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawrence-eta-9b11139/
https://www.instagram.com/the.lawrence.eta/
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright

Nov 27, 2024 • 49min
Why Most Marketing Strategies Fail and How to Fix Them with Hamlet Azarian
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Avetis Antaplyan interviews Hamlet Azarian, founder and CEO of Azarian Growth Agency. They discuss the importance of identifying gaps in business and surrounding oneself with the right talent. Hamlet shares his journey into growth marketing, emphasizing the significance of data-driven strategies and understanding ROI in marketing budgets. The conversation also covers B2B marketing strategies, the distinction between marketing qualified leads (MQL) and sales qualified leads (SQL), and the challenges of hiring in today's market. Finally, they explore how startups can build a growth engine to scale effectively. In this conversation, Avetis Antaplyan discusses the critical stages of startup growth, emphasizing the importance of building a scalable growth engine, navigating pivots, and understanding product-market fit. He explores the balance between marketing-led and product-led growth strategies, the transformative role of AI in marketing, and the necessity of experimentation in developing effective marketing strategies. Avetis also addresses the evolving landscape of SEO and the significance of thought leadership in establishing authority. Finally, he highlights the importance of delegation and surrounding oneself with the right talent to achieve business success.
Takeaways
Surrounding yourself with the right talent is crucial.
A career transition can lead to discovering new passions.
Data-driven marketing is essential for success.
Every marketing dollar should be viewed as an investment.
Expect varying timelines for marketing results based on strategies.
Understanding MQL and SQL is vital for effective sales.
Hiring challenges require a strategic approach.
Automation and AI can enhance outreach efforts.
Building authority through thought leadership is important.
A predictable growth engine is key for startups. Customer discovery is essential for understanding real problems.
Building a repeatable growth engine is crucial for scaling.
Pivots can lead to significant success in startups.
Product-led growth works best for self-serve businesses.
AI tools are integral to modern marketing strategies.
Experimentation is key to discovering effective marketing tactics.
SEO will evolve, focusing more on personal expertise.
Thought leadership enhances authority and drives business.
Delegation allows founders to focus on their strengths.
Surrounding yourself with the right talent is vital for growth.
Chapters
00:00 Identifying Gaps and Building Teams
03:04 Hamlet Azarian's Journey to Growth Marketing
05:50 The Importance of Data-Driven Marketing
09:04 Understanding ROI and Marketing Budgets
11:51 B2B Marketing Strategies for Service Businesses
17:58 MQL vs SQL: Understanding Lead Qualification
21:11 The Challenges of Hiring and Recruitment
23:05 Scaling Startups: Building a Growth Engine
24:04 Building the First Growth Engine
25:28 Navigating Pivots and Product-Market Fit
27:52 Marketing vs. Product-Led Growth
31:08 The Role of AI in Growth Marketing
34:13 Experimentation in Marketing Strategies
37:30 The Future of SEO and Thought Leadership
40:50 The Importance of Delegation and Team Building
Hamlet Azarian’s Website:
https://azariangrowthagency.com/
https://hamletazarian.com/
Hamlet Azarian’s Social Media Links:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hamletazarian/
https://x.com/hamletazarian
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright

Oct 30, 2024 • 49min
Aligning Visions for Team Success with Chad Brown
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Chad L Brown shares his journey from being a struggling media production company owner to becoming a leadership engagement expert. He discusses the importance of taking responsibility as a leader, embracing discomfort for growth, and the significance of having difficult conversations. Chad introduces the 'Shit Hors D'oeuvre Principle' to illustrate how avoiding small issues can lead to larger problems. He emphasizes the need for leaders to enroll their teams in a shared vision to drive success and fulfillment in the workplace. In this conversation, Avetis discusses the importance of hiring for alignment and growth, emphasizing that not all employees seek rapid advancement. He highlights the need for companies to engage with their employees meaningfully and address issues proactively to avoid passive-aggressive exits. The discussion transitions into work-life balance, where Antaplyan challenges traditional notions of balance, advocating for a vision-driven approach that prioritizes both family and work commitments.
Takeaways
Leadership is about the results you create with others.
Taking responsibility for outcomes is crucial for effective leadership.
Embracing discomfort can lead to significant personal and professional growth.
Avoiding difficult conversations can lead to larger issues down the line.
The 'Shit Hors D'oeuvre Principle' illustrates the importance of addressing small problems early.
Leaders must project future outcomes to guide their teams effectively.
Short-term comfort can lead to long-term pain in leadership.
Effective communication is key to maintaining team dynamics.
Addressing red flags early is crucial.
Using employees as tools can lead to burnout.
Work-life balance should be redefined as a vision-driven approach.
Effective systems should not overshadow the purpose of work.
Entrepreneurs should focus on scaling themselves.
Chapters
00:00 The Journey to Leadership Coaching
02:45 The Importance of Leadership Responsibility
06:05 Embracing Discomfort for Growth
09:05 The Shit Hors D'oeuvre Principle
11:55 Navigating Difficult Conversations
15:13 Enrolling Teams in a Shared Vision
24:32 Hiring for Alignment and Growth
28:17 Work-Life Balance: Redefining the Concept
34:41 Effective Systems and Structures for Sustainability
40:05 Empowering Entrepreneurs for Personal Freedom
Chad Brown’s Website:
https://www.founder-freedom.com/
Chad Brown’s Social Media Links:
https://www.youtube.com/@Cult-Like
https://www.linkedin.com/in/chad-brown-founder-freedom
https://www.instagram.com/chad.leslie.brown
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright

Oct 23, 2024 • 50min
How to Master Sales as an Introvert with Matthew Pollard
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Matthew Pollard, known as The Rapid Growth Guy, shares his journey from struggling introvert to successful consultant. He emphasizes the importance of creating a unique message and conveying passion and mission through storytelling. He challenges the misconception that introverts can't sell and highlights successful introverted salespeople. Matthew also discusses the need for a sales system before hiring a salesperson and the power of storytelling in the sales process. Matthew Pollard discusses the misconceptions about introverts and how they can excel in sales and networking. He shares the reasons behind writing his books on introverted sales and networking, and how introverts can leverage their natural gifts to succeed. He also talks about the future of entrepreneurship and the role of technology in changing communication. Additionally, he discusses the Small Business Festival he launched and the importance of learning outside of one's functional skills.
Takeaways
Create a unique message that sets you apart from competitors
Convey passion and mission through storytelling
Develop a sales system before hiring a salesperson
Use storytelling to build rapport and engage customers
Introverts can be successful in sales Introverts can excel in sales and networking by leveraging their natural gifts, such as active listening and empathy.
Technology has made it easier for introverts to succeed in sales and marketing, as it allows for automation and reaching ideal clients.
Validating the message and building relationships through in-person or virtual interactions is crucial for success in business.
The Small Business Festival was launched to provide small business owners with actionable tools and practical skills to grow their businesses.
Matthew Pollard's books and resources offer valuable insights and strategies for introverted entrepreneurs and salespeople.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
06:45 Unleashing the Power of Storytelling in Sales
13:25 Building a Unique Message to Stand Out
18:16 The Importance of Passion and Mission in Sales
23:23 Developing a Sales System for Rapid Growth
25:08 Introverts Can Sell Too: Debunking the Myth
34:22 The Impact of Technology on Entrepreneurship
40:36 The Small Business Festival
46:59 Strategies for Success
Matthew Pollard’s Website:
https://matthewpollard.com/
Matthew Pollard’s Social Media Links:
https://www.youtube.com/@Matthewpollard
https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewpollardspeaker/
https://www.instagram.com/matthewpollardspeaker
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright/

Oct 18, 2024 • 45min
How Happy Companies Are Changing Leadership with James Lawrence
James Lawrence, founder and CEO of Happy Companies, shares his journey and leadership philosophy. He emphasizes the importance of building things and the combination of art and science in creating. James dropped out of college to start his first company and learned the value of taking different paths. He discusses his background in tech and the challenges he faced in building software. James highlights the importance of understanding and respecting individual differences in leadership and communication styles. He explains how Happy Companies uses behavioral science to provide personalized coaching through everyday tools like Slack and email. The conversation explores the importance of application and immediate relevance in learning, the challenges of developing leadership and management effectiveness, the impact of hybrid work on leadership, the need for improved communication and collaboration, and the keys to creating a happy and productive workplace.
Takeaways
Building things and the combination of art and science are key aspects of leadership.
Taking different paths and not following a traditional definition of success can lead to professional growth.
Leaders and managers often struggle with developing their effectiveness due to a lack of time and knowledge of where to start.
Hybrid work has changed the dynamics of leadership and requires adaptation and new approaches to communication and collaboration.
Improving communication, collaboration, and teamwork is always worth the investment and leads to sustainable organizational performance.
Creating a culture of transparency and open communication allows for honest conversations and alignment between managers and employees.
Regular check-ins and stay interviews can help identify and address challenges and conflicts before they escalate.
Investing in people, coaching, training, and feedback leads to higher employee satisfaction, productivity, and organizational success.
Chapters
00:00 The Art and Science of Building Things
01:24 Taking Different Paths to Success
08:38 Understanding and Respecting Individual Differences
15:51 Personalized Coaching through Everyday Tools
23:00 The Power of Application and Immediate Relevance in Learning
27:12 Challenges in Developing Leadership and Management Effectiveness
32:13 The Impact of Hybrid Work on Leadership
41:23 Improving Communication and Collaboration for a Happy and Productive Workplace
Guest’s Website:
https://happycompanies.com/
Guest’s Social Media Link:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesflawrence/
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright/

Oct 9, 2024 • 25min
Mastering Communication as a Tech Leader with Geoffrey Huck
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Geoffrey Huck, a former software engineer turned public speaking coach, shares his personal journey of overcoming social anxiety and fear of public speaking. He emphasizes the importance of communication skills for tech leaders and offers strategies for becoming more confident in public speaking. Geoffrey also discusses the misconceptions about presenting in front of audiences and the impact of effective communication on career advancement and personal life. He shares success stories of helping leaders improve their speaking skills and provides tips for preparing for speaking engagements.
Takeaways
Overcoming social anxiety and fear of public speaking requires deliberate exposure to fears and practicing in non-stake situations.
Tech leaders often underestimate the importance of communication skills, but they are crucial for career advancement and inspiring teams.
Crafting a captivating opening and varying the rhythm of a speech are key strategies for keeping the audience engaged.
Effective communication skills are essential in various aspects of life, including personal relationships and job interviews.
Training on camera and watching oneself can help improve naturalness and identify areas for improvement in public speaking.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction: Geoffrey's Journey from Software Engineer to Public Speaking Coach
03:23 Overcoming Social Anxiety and Fear of Public Speaking
08:31 Misconceptions about Presenting in Front of Audiences
14:20 Success Story: Changing the Trajectory of a CEO's Career
16:48 Mistakes in Workshop and Conference Presentations
18:07 The Future of Communication in Tech Leadership
20:01 The Reward of Helping Leaders Overcome Fears and Master Public Speaking
21:29 Three Tips for Preparing for Speaking Engagements
Guest’s Website:
https://geoffreyhuck.com/
Guest’s Social Media Link:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoffrey-huck/
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright/

Oct 2, 2024 • 54min
How to Lead with Clarity and Drive Big Results with John Rossman
In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, former Amazon executive and author John Rossman discusses his leadership journey and the crucial role of calculated risk-taking in driving enterprise growth. Drawing from his experience at Amazon and his books, The Amazon Way and Big Bet Leadership, Rossman shares insights on fostering innovation, maintaining velocity, and avoiding the pitfalls of incrementalism. Learn actionable strategies to transform your business, create a culture of innovation, and lead with agility in the digital era.
Takeaways
Calculated risks are essential for creating enterprise value.
Big Bet Leadership focuses on high upside opportunities.
Playing to win is different from playing not to lose.
Creating clarity and maintaining velocity are crucial for success.
Fostering a culture of innovation requires leadership commitment.
Customer obsession drives meaningful problem-solving.
Active skepticism helps leaders navigate emerging technologies.
Avoiding common mistakes can enhance risk-taking strategies.
Strategic thinking is vital for tech leaders.
Independent opinions can improve decision-making processes.
Chapters
00:00 Calculated Risks and Enterprise Value
02:53 John Rossman's Journey at Amazon
06:11 The Importance of Leadership Principles
08:54 Big Bet Leadership: A New Approach
12:11 Playing to Win vs. Playing Not to Lose
15:03 Creating Clarity and Maintaining Velocity
17:50 De-risking Projects Without Overthinking
20:56 Fostering a Culture of Innovation
24:14 Customer Obsession and Problem Solving
27:08 The Role of Skepticism in Leadership
29:50 Avoiding Common Mistakes in Risk Taking
32:47 Strategic Thinking for Tech Leaders
35:58 Balancing Emerging Tech and Business Needs
38:49 Identifying High-Risk Assumptions
42:03 The Importance of Independent Opinions
44:48 Final Thoughts on Leadership and Innovation
Guest’s Website: https://johnrossman.com/
Guest’s Social Media Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-rossman/
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright/

Jul 24, 2024 • 24min
Digital Transformation and Product Management Compilation
In this compilation episode of the Tech Leaders Playbook, the conversation revolves around the benefits and challenges of digital transformation and product management. The key themes include the impact of digital transformation on individuals and organizations, the role of product managers in driving innovation, and the importance of simplicity and customer-centricity in product development. The conversation also touches on the use of AI in product management and the need for effective communication and collaboration within teams.
Takeaways
Digital transformation can be challenging for individuals and organizations, as it threatens established roles and structures.
Product managers play a crucial role in driving innovation by understanding customer needs and aligning teams towards the right product.
Simplicity is key in product development, as bloated features and complexity can hinder adoption and maintenance.
Effective communication and collaboration are essential for successful product management and digital transformation.
AI can be a valuable tool in product management, but it should be used carefully and in conjunction with human expertise.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Overview
02:23 The Importance of Cultural Shift in Digital Transformation
03:20 Balancing Risk and Innovation in Legacy Organizations
04:17 The Challenges of Technology Expertise in Non-Tech Companies
05:15 Adapting to Changing Customer Expectations
05:44 What Makes a Digital Project Award-Winning?
06:41 Differentiating Between Sparkle and Utility in Projects
07:37 The Value of Projects that Improve Customer Experience
08:07 The Role of Product Managers in Driving Innovation
09:06 The Mission of a Product Person
10:04 Fostering Innovation within Product Teams
11:47 Leadership and Innovation in Product Development
13:34 Overcoming Challenges and Failures in Product Management
14:18 The Importance of Simplicity in Product Development
15:46 Removing Features for Greater Success
17:46 The Pitfalls of Overreliance on Documentation
18:15 The Value of Customer Usage in Product Success
19:42 Using AI Tools in Product Management
20:11 The Benefits and Limitations of AI in Product Management
22:38 Conclusion and Call to Action

Jul 10, 2024 • 43min
The Future of Business Travel with Sarosh Waghmar
Sarosh Waghmar, the founder of Spotnana, shares his origin story and the journey of building a travel as a service platform. He started as a consultant and became obsessed with frequent flyer miles, which led him to launch a Yahoo News group called Spotnana. He then started Spotnana as a business class discounted travel agency and eventually pivoted to building a platform for the travel industry. The goal is to provide trust, transparency, and a seamless travel experience by rebuilding the legacy infrastructure of the industry. The platform is open to corporations, travel management companies, and other technology companies to use and build upon. Spotnana is focused on building a platform that enhances the travel experience through AI and cloud technologies. They prioritize improving service and support for business travelers, providing a companion throughout their journey. The goal is to create a seamless and proactive user experience, offering real-time information and options to travelers. Spotnana aims to be a platform company, connecting all stakeholders in the travel industry and revolutionizing the distribution of prices and content. They believe in the importance of trust and putting customers first. Scaling challenges are managed through ruthless prioritization and staying true to values and principles. The future of travel includes AI-driven support, enhanced user experiences, and a focus on creating trust and value for customers.
Takeaways
Sarosh Waghmar started in the travel industry by launching a Yahoo News group called Spotnana to share tips on maximizing frequent flyer miles.
He then founded Spotnana as a business class discounted travel agency and later pivoted to building a platform for the travel industry.
The platform aims to provide trust, transparency, and a seamless travel experience by rebuilding the legacy infrastructure of the industry.
Spotnana's platform is open to corporations, travel management companies, and other technology companies to use and build upon. Spotnana is focused on enhancing the travel experience through AI and cloud technologies.
They prioritize improving service and support for business travelers, providing a seamless and proactive user experience.
Spotnana aims to be a platform company, revolutionizing the distribution of prices and content in the travel industry.
Scaling challenges are managed through ruthless prioritization and staying true to values and principles.
The future of travel includes AI-driven support, enhanced user experiences, and a focus on creating trust and value for customers.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Sarosh Waghmar and Spotnana
01:05 Sarosh's Journey and Obsession with Frequent Flyer Miles
05:02 Transitioning from a Service-Driven Company to a Technology Company
07:43 Challenges in the Travel Industry and the Need for Trust and Transparency
09:46 Spotnana's Platform and its Users
12:10 Travel as a Service and Spotnana's Vision
15:25 Building a Platform and Enabling Innovation in the Travel Industry
20:15 Spotnana's Role as a Travel Agency and Technology Company
22:33 Balancing Innovation and Jeopardizing the Core Business
24:11 Leveraging AI and Cloud Technologies to Enhance the Travel Experience
26:37 The Importance of Being Proactive in Travel Support
29:22 Managing Scaling Challenges and Staying True to Values
31:53 Fostering a Culture of Innovation and Balancing Immediate Priorities
33:05 Spotnana's Vision and Focus on Building the Platform
34:39 Challenges of Hiring and Building a Team during Industry Shutdown
37:05 The Future of Travel: AI, Enhanced User Experiences, and Trust
40:02 Lessons Learned and the Journey Ahead
Guest’s Website: https://www.spotnana.com/
Guest’s Social Media Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swaghmar/
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright/

Jul 4, 2024 • 44min
Why Culture is the Key to Digital Transformation with Chris Dowell
Chris Dowell, an award-winning digital transformation executive, discusses the importance and urgency of digital transformation in organizations. He emphasizes that digital transformation is not just about technology, but about cultural change. Chris explains that organizations need to empower their frontline employees and flatten their structures to enable faster decision-making and responsiveness. He also highlights the challenges of getting buy-in from senior executives and overcoming resistance to change. Chris shares that digital projects should focus on utility and impact rather than just winning awards. He concludes by expressing his interest in leading digital transformation initiatives in organizations that are open to change and have a culture that supports innovation and agility.
Takeaways
Digital transformation is not just about technology, but about cultural change within organizations.
Empowering frontline employees and flattening organizational structures are key to achieving digital transformation.
Getting buy-in from senior executives and overcoming resistance to change are major challenges in digital transformation.
Digital projects should focus on utility and impact rather than just winning awards.
Leading digital transformation requires working with organizations that are open to change and have a culture that supports innovation and agility.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Chris Dowell's Journey
03:39 The Urgency of Digital Transformation
07:34 Empowering Frontline Employees
14:26 The Cultural Change in Digital Transformation
26:15 The Role of Founders and C-Suite in Digital Transformation
33:42 Award-Winning Digital Projects and the Importance of Culture
38:50 Chris Dowell's Next Adventure
Guest’s Social Media Links: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisdowell/
Resources and Links:
https://www.hireclout.com
https://www.podcast.hireclout.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright/


