Heterodox Out Loud

Ivan Oransky, co-founder of Retraction Watch and a distinguished journalist at NYU, dives into how Trump’s executive orders are reshaping scientific research. He discusses the chilling effects on academic freedom, expressing concern over censorship and self-censorship among researchers. Oransky explores the historical context of government funding, tracing its impact on scientific priorities and independence. He warns of the growing influence of politics on inquiry and the potential consequences for the future of scientific discovery.

Andrew Hartz, President of the Open Therapy Institute and a clinical psychologist, discusses the concerning rise of sociopolitical bias in mental health care. He reveals how personal beliefs can overshadow patient-centered therapy, leading to exclusion based on political views. The conversation delves into the challenges conservative therapists face and the ethical responsibilities of practitioners. Hartz also highlights the need for culturally sensitive approaches, addressing topics like gun ownership and gender biases in therapy.

Shira Hoffer, a Harvard senior and founder of the Institute for Multipartisan Education, discusses her mission to reduce societal hate through dialogue. She shares her inspiring journey in establishing the Hotline for Israel-Palestine to connect diverse perspectives amidst campus tensions. Shira emphasizes radical curiosity as a vital tool for overcoming polarization and advocates for student-led initiatives that encourage open-minded conversation. Her insights reveal the transformative potential of curiosity in education and conflict resolution.

Rebecca Roiphe, a Trustee Professor of Law at New York Law School and author of "The Devil's Advocate," explores the evolution of legal education over the past fifty years. She discusses how the Critical Legal Studies movement transformed law schools, shifting their focus from professional training to social justice. Roiphe highlights the implications of this shift for democracy, the manipulation of legal principles, and the need for inclusive dialogue in addressing legal disparities. Her insights illuminate the ongoing tension between ideals and realities in legal practice.

In this discussion, Anna Krylov, a Professor of Chemistry at USC known for her contributions in quantum chemistry and a champion of meritocracy, tackles the contentious influence of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) on scientific progress. She shares concerns about how DEI mandates could undermine merit-based funding and public trust in science. The conversation dives into the implications of gender quotas, the rise of 'citation justice,' and the potential societal costs of prioritizing ideology over objective inquiry, questioning the future integrity of scientific research.

John Austin, Head of School at Deerfield Academy and former Headmaster at King’s Academy in Jordan, shares his insights on navigating inclusion and freedom of expression in education. He discusses the challenges surrounding diversity in schools and how structured initiatives like randomized community meals promote dialogue. Austin highlights the importance of disciplined nonpartisanship and intellectual diversity, emphasizing that independent schools can serve as innovative laboratories for fostering constructive disagreements and nurturing open-mindedness among students.

Elisha Russ-Fishbane, an Associate Professor at NYU and an expert in Jewish-Muslim relations, shares his unique academic journey shaped by a passion for Greco-Roman literature and the aftermath of September 11. He explores historical Jewish-Muslim dialogues, particularly the significant contributions of Maimonides to interfaith understanding. Elisha discusses the challenges of academia, emphasizing the importance of intellectual humility and fostering genuine connections, while reflecting on the broader purpose of education beyond mere career outcomes.

Eboo Patel, Founder and President of Interfaith America, discusses the transformative power of pluralism in universities. He shares his journey from India and how his Muslim upbringing shaped his views on social justice. Patel critiques the shift in anti-racism strategies in academia and advocates for a balance between diverse perspectives. He proposes innovative ideas for creating 'Pluralist Universities,' emphasizing respectful dialogue and intellectual diversity, and uses jazz as a metaphor for collaboration in a democratic society.

Keith Whittington, David Boies Professor of Law at Yale and director of the Center for Academic Freedom, dives into the contentious intersection of politics and higher education. He discusses Florida's 'Stop Woke Act' and its implications for academic freedom and the First Amendment. Whittington shares insights from the Academic Freedom Alliance on defending speech rights, while exploring historical legislative interventions that echo today's challenges. The conversation highlights the necessity for open discourse and the complexity of navigating censorship and government control in academia.

Musa al-Gharbi, an assistant professor at Stony Brook University and author of "We Have Never Been Woke," delves into the concept of "symbolic capitalists" and their role in perpetuating social inequalities. He critiques the moral positioning of intellectual elites who advocate for justice while reinforcing systemic problems. The discussion spans the complexities of social capitalism, performative activism, and how societal shifts since 2010 have influenced perceptions of race and inequality, revealing the intricate ties between identity and advocacy.