

The Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast|Real Estate Investing
Chris Prefontaine
Welcome to the Smart Real Estate Coach podcast. Our episodes are designed to help YOU reach the next level of real estate investing no matter where you are right now.
To make this a reality, we lean into our 32+ years of experience, our huge network of experts, and our thriving community of Associates. With the right tools, the right education, and the right mindset YOU can take control of your financial future.
At Smart Real Estate Coach, we empower individuals and families to create the life of their dreams through real estate.
If you are an aspiring or seasoned real estate investor looking for a proven investment system, robust education, and a thriving support community, you have come to the right place.
We share the best information from our own deals, our Associate's deals, and our guest experts, helping you potentially save hundreds of thousands of dollars in costly mistakes.
And we know what the work actually takes. Between our Associates and our own deals, we’re still completing deals every month and control, at any given time between $60-100 million dollars worth of real estate with little to no money down. If you’re serious about making money in the world of real estate investment, then keep listening to learn more!
To make this a reality, we lean into our 32+ years of experience, our huge network of experts, and our thriving community of Associates. With the right tools, the right education, and the right mindset YOU can take control of your financial future.
At Smart Real Estate Coach, we empower individuals and families to create the life of their dreams through real estate.
If you are an aspiring or seasoned real estate investor looking for a proven investment system, robust education, and a thriving support community, you have come to the right place.
We share the best information from our own deals, our Associate's deals, and our guest experts, helping you potentially save hundreds of thousands of dollars in costly mistakes.
And we know what the work actually takes. Between our Associates and our own deals, we’re still completing deals every month and control, at any given time between $60-100 million dollars worth of real estate with little to no money down. If you’re serious about making money in the world of real estate investment, then keep listening to learn more!
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Oct 15, 2025 • 34min
Episode 529: How to Leave Your 9-5 Job By Investing in Real Estate with Lauren Keen Aumond
In this episode of the Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast, Chris is joined by Lauren Keen Aumond, a Florida-based real estate investor, podcast host, and personal finance educator who left her corporate sales job at age 33 thanks to her strategic investing. Lauren walks us through her journey from personal finance nerd to full-time investor, how she built her rental portfolio, and the importance of taking action before you’re desperate to leave your job. She and her husband now manage a combination of short-term and long-term rentals, operate with financial freedom, and navigate the unique challenges of the Florida market—including tricky insurance issues and tenant laws. You’ll also hear Lauren’s best advice for escaping the 9-to-5 grind, how she and her husband split responsibilities in both life and business, and the behind-the-scenes evolution of her podcast Adulting Is Easy. This episode is a masterclass in intentional living, taking action, and building a life on your own terms. Key Talking Points of the Episode 00:00 Introduction and welcome 01:05 Meet Lauren Keen Aumond: real estate investor and content creator 01:52 Leaving her corporate job at 33—how she built her foundation early 02:40 Why you shouldn’t wait until you hate your job to start investing 04:00 How Lauren bought her first house at 22 working at Toys “R” Us 06:10 House hacking and her first experience as a landlord 07:20 The role her dad played in keeping her first property as a rental 07:50 Meeting her husband and scaling their portfolio together 08:20 Why they moved from long-term to short-term rentals 08:53 Their current portfolio: apartment buildings, duplexes, ADUs 09:30 How her husband selling his engineering firm accelerated their progress 10:00 Advice for those stuck in a corporate job: “Don’t give your best to someone else” 10:45 Set a goal, have a plan, and stick to it 11:50 The belief factor: “You already take more action than most” 12:50 The importance of setting a hard date for quitting 13:19 Details on the Wicked Smart Apprentice Program 15:00 Real examples of students who made the leap from corporate 15:50 How tenant laws led Lauren to shift toward short-term rentals 16:30 Florida’s murky tenant laws and eviction moratoriums during COVID 17:58 Why short-term rentals offer more control over property access 18:32 Managing real estate with your spouse: the good, the bad, and the boundaries 20:10 How Lauren and her husband split responsibilities—and why they had to redefine their roles 21:49 The challenges of being romantic and business partners 22:32 Florida market analysis: insurance costs, flood zones, and climate concerns 24:00 What properties are likely to appreciate—and which won’t 25:19 Lauren’s podcast Adulting Is Easy—teaching finance through storytelling 26:12 Her #1 takeaway from hundreds of podcast interviews 26:41 Avoiding “self-help porn”: why action matters more than knowledge 27:27 Tying your action to a strong “why” 28:55 Lauren’s why: freedom from alarms, business trips, and limitations 29:46 Final thoughts and how to connect with Lauren Quotables “Don’t wait until you hate your job to build your exit plan. Start while you’re still happy.” “Why would you give the best of yourself to someone else, day after day, instead of to your own dream?” “Have a goal—and when you hit it, do the thing. Leave the job.” “Action is what makes you an investor. Not podcasts. Not books. Action.” “The confidence boost from taking action will make the rest of life easier. Everything changes.” Links QLS 4.0 - Use coupon code for 50% off https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qls Coupon code: podApprentice Program https://3paydaysapprentice.com Coupon code: PodcastMasterclass https://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast Wicked Smart Books https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast Strategy Session https://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast Partners https://smartrealestatecoach.com/podcastresources

Oct 8, 2025 • 27min
Episode 528: The 4 Pillars of Powerful Negotiation with Derek Dombeck
In this episode of The Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast, I’m joined by our newest team member and longtime friend of the community—Derek Dombeck. Derek has completed thousands of creative real estate deals, built multiple successful businesses, and is now stepping into a coaching and mentorship role here at Smart Real Estate Coach. In this episode, we unpack Derek’s negotiation training, explore how he’s helping our associates refine their people skills, and dive into the art of controlling the conversation, overcoming objections, and closing more deals. Derek also shares recent transactions he’s working on, including a divorce scenario turned win-win lease purchase, and a seller-financed duplex bought with private money, showing exactly how creativity and strong communication turn challenges into profits. Whether you’re a new investor learning the ropes or a seasoned dealmaker looking to sharpen your edge, this episode will level up the way you negotiate, close, and grow. Key Talking Points of the Episode 00:00 Introduction 02:45 Recap of Derek’s live negotiation training at QLS Live Boston 03:24 Why most investors learn strategies but never master communication 05:02 Personality profiling: identifying who you’re talking to in the first few minutes 06:12 The driver vs. analytical personality and how to adjust your communication style 07:33 Frame control: leading conversations even from a “beta” position 09:10 Storytelling as a negotiation tool: overcoming objections before they appear 10:26 The four pillars of powerful negotiation: personality, control, storytelling, and closing 11:50 Introducing the “No Means Not Now” negotiation course 13:19 Derek’s first impressions as a coach inside the Wicked Smart community 17:19 Derek’s recent deal: divorce property turned lease purchase success 20:56 Second deal: seller-financed duplex using private capital with equity share 21:51 Negotiating with private lenders and structuring long-term terms 23:47 Take action: Get in the room, learn, and do deals together Quotables “People spend a lot of time learning strategies, but almost no time learning how to actually talk to people.” “Negotiations are nothing more than social interactions—and you can learn to control every one of them.” “If you can control the frame, you can control the outcome.” Links No Means Not Now Negotiation Course https://smartrealestatecoach.com/NoMeansNotNow QLS 4.0 - Use coupon code for 50% off https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qls Coupon code: pod Apprentice Program https://3paydaysapprentice.com Coupon code: Podcast Masterclass https://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast Wicked Smart Books https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast Strategy Session https://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast Partners https://smartrealestatecoach.com/podcastresources

Oct 1, 2025 • 36min
Episode 527: What $500M in Real Estate Transactions Taught Him About Investing with Kevin Bupp
In this episode of The Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast, I sit down with Kevin Bupp—real estate investor, bestselling author of The Cash Flow Investor, and host of the Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow Podcast. With more than $500 million in transactions and a portfolio spanning 14 states, Kevin has seen the highs, the lows, and everything in between. Kevin shares how he got his start tending bar at 19 before finding his first mentor, how the 2008 crash forced him to rebuild from scratch, and why mobile home parks and parking lots are his favorite asset classes today. We also dive into proximity, coaching, and the power of association—why surrounding yourself with the right people can completely change your trajectory. This is a masterclass in resilience, creative deal-making, and niche investing. Key Talking Points of the Episode 00:00 Introduction 02:26 Kevin’s entrepreneurial start and early mentorship at 19 05:47 First property deal at 20 and building a single-family portfolio 07:50 The power of proximity and association: why who you know matters 09:43 How Kevin’s mentors helped him get to where he is today 12:25 Coaching, ROI, and why investing in yourself pays off 14:07 “Get comfortable with being uncomfortable” – growth mindset in action 15:15 Surviving the 2008 crash, losing it all, and starting over 16:56 Discovering mobile home parks accidentally at first, then by conviction 21:33 Creative financing in mobile home parks—seller finance and bank debt 23:20 Parking lot investments: how Kevin evaluates demand drivers 27:11 Advice for new investors: pick one niche, go deep, and avoid overwhelm 30:15 Sunrise Capital and Kevin’s current portfolio Quotables “If you could do one thing in life, get incredibly comfortable with being uncomfortable.” “Private money is not easy to find, but once you have it, it can change everything.” “We don’t want to dilute our focus. It’s really difficult to be an expert at many different types of real estate.” Links Episode 52: From Broke to Mobile Home Parks in 8 States https://smartrealestatecoach.com/post/episode-52-from-broke-to-mobile-home-parks-in-8-states Real Estate Investing for Cash Flow https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/real-estate-investing-for-cash-flow-with-kevin-bupp/id791316884 QLS Live Ticket for $199 (Bonus: QLS 4.0 Program Included) https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast QLS 4.0 - Use coupon code for 50% off https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qls Coupon code: pod Apprentice Program https://3paydaysapprentice.com Coupon code: Podcast Masterclass https://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast Wicked Smart Books https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast Strategy Session https://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast Partners https://smartrealestatecoach.com/podcastresources

Sep 24, 2025 • 37min
Episode 526: Finding An Assistant That Becomes A Profit Center for Your Business with Tim Francis
In this episode of The Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast, I sit down with Tim Francis, founder of Great Assistant. Tim has helped over 800 entrepreneurs and investors hire trusted, high-level domestic executive assistants—not virtual assistants overseas, but real partners who become an extension of you. Tim’s story is remarkable. From losing $350K in the 2008 crash, to developing a rare illness that left him unable to walk for months, he had to rethink everything about business and life. That journey led him to discover the right way to hire and lead executive assistants, and ultimately, to build Great Assistant. We dive into his hiring process, why most entrepreneurs fail with assistants, and how the right assistant can free you up to focus on strategy, high-level skills, and relationships—the “surgeon in the room” work that only you can do. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed juggling all the moving pieces of your real estate business, this conversation will show you how to scale sustainably. Key Talking Points of the Episode 00:00 Introduction 00:53 Who is Tim Francis? 02:35 The 2008 crash, $350K loss, and developing a rare illness 04:24 Spiritual turning point: chasing truth and mastery, not fame and fortune 05:40 Failing with five assistants and discovering a new hiring process 08:22 Hiring Sarah—the paralegal who changed everything 10:16 The Great Assistant formula: pairing trained assistants with trained leaders 13:15 Hiring volume: why they review 50–200 candidates per role 17:06 The difference between VAs and executive assistants 19:21 What makes a great assistant: complement, not clone 20:50 The surgeon vs. nurse analogy—strategy, skill, and access vs. admin 22:15 Practical example: prepping comps and organizing negotiation notes 25:28 Why you must live out of your calendar, not your inbox 26:49 Expense vs. revenue mindset—why an assistant is a profit center 29:53 Tim’s upcoming book: arranging life to minimize regret 32:45 How to connect with Tim and Great Assistant Quotables “Your assistant will always be an expense on paper. But your relationship with your assistant will be the biggest profit center of your career.” “We don’t want a clone of you—we want a complement. You throw the balls in the air, and they catch them and close the loops.” “A great assistant isn’t about saving time, it’s about helping you fulfill your potential in this lifetime.” Links Episode 152: Discover the Power of a Great Assistant, with Tim Francis https://sites.libsyn.com/101440/episode-152-discover-the-power-of-a-great-assistant-with-tim-francis Get a Great Assistant by Tim Francis https://greatassistant.com/book Great Assistant https://smartrealestate.com/greatassistant Apply for a Discovery Call with Great Assistant https://greatassistant.com/apply Tim Francis https://www.instagram.com/realtimfrancis QLS Live + QLS 4.0 at $199 smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast Just QLS 4.0 at ½ off smartrealestatecoach.com/qls Coupon code: pod Apprentice Program 3paydaysapprentice.com Coupon code: Podcast Masterclass smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast Wicked Smart Books wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast Strategy Session smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast Partners smartrealestatecoach.com/podcastresources

Sep 17, 2025 • 19min
Episode 525: How to Invest in Real Estate with a Self-Directed IRA with Joe Fulvio
In this episode of The Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast, I sit down with Joe Fulvio of CAMA Plan, a leading firm in self-directed retirement accounts. Joe brings decades of experience in strategic marketing and distribution across multiple industries and now helps investors use self-directed IRAs and 401(k)s to unlock new opportunities. We break down what “true self-direction” really means, how real estate behaves differently inside versus outside an IRA, and the mistakes investors need to avoid to stay compliant. Joe also shares real-world examples of unusual assets you can hold in a retirement account—from dump trucks to coffee plantations—and why due diligence is everything when you step outside traditional stocks and bonds. If you’re curious about using retirement funds to build long-term wealth, this conversation will open your eyes to strategies you can start using right now. Key Talking Points of the Episode 00:00 Introduction 01:25 Meet Joe Fulvio: CAMA Plan’s liaison for private equity, lending, and venture capital 02:45 What “true” self-directed investing is and why brokerages aren’t offering it 04:08 Comparing real estate inside vs. outside an IRA 05:21 The rules around self-dealing and why you can’t move your own properties into an IRA 06:12 Exotic assets: crypto, fine art through LLCs, coffee plantations, and international property 07:05 Using a checkbook LLC for flexibility in auctions and fast-moving deals 10:31 Common mistakes: lack of due diligence, mixing personal and IRA funds, and self-dealing 13:10 How CAMA Plan differs from competitors: 20 years of experience, accessibility, and responsiveness 14:30 Self-directed accounts as a “utility knife”: 20 creative ways to fund deals 15:30 How to reach Joe and CAMA Plan before or during the Wicked Smart live event Quotables “The list of things you can’t invest in is about six items long. We handle everything else.” “Self-direction means you’re in control. You do the work, you do the due diligence.” “You can control a lot of real estate inside an IRA with very little out of pocket.” Links CAMA Plan https://camaplan.com Joe Fulvio (215) 283-2868 engage@camaplan.com QLS Live + QLS 4.0 at $199 smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast Just QLS 4.0 at ½ off smartrealestatecoach.com/qls Coupon code: pod Apprentice Program 3paydaysapprentice.com Coupon code: Podcast Masterclass smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast Wicked Smart Books wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast Strategy Session smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast Partners smartrealestatecoach.com/podcastresources

Sep 10, 2025 • 21min
Episode 524: IRS Traps, Tax Myths, and How to Protect Yourself with Gerry Delang
In this episode, I welcome back Gerry Delang, founder of End Tax Problems Now, a firm he started in 2001 to help individuals and businesses resolve complex IRS issues. Gerry is who I call the “stress reliever”, because when you’re facing the most feared collection agency in the world, you need someone who knows how to fight back and win. We talk about what really happens when you get that dreaded IRS letter, why paying without question is the biggest mistake you can make, and how Gerry has successfully represented thousands of clients, including me during the 2008 crash. He also shares recent stories, common traps to avoid, and why most IRS issues are nothing to be ashamed of. If you’re an investor, entrepreneur, or anyone who’s ever dealt with tax stress, this episode could save you thousands of dollars and a ton of sleepless nights. Key Talking Points of the Episode 00:00 Introduction 01:02 Who is Gerry Delang? 03:18 The IRS as the most feared collection agency in the world 04:45 Why ignoring IRS letters is the worst thing you can do 06:00 The mistake of paying first and hoping for a refund later 07:18 Common life events that create non-filers: divorce, illness, job loss 08:40 The trap of 800-number “IRS help” companies and why most fail 11:29 A recent personal story: a $5,000 IRS bill wiped away in one call 14:37 Why most CPAs don’t want to touch tax resolution work 15:56 Even wealth advisors have IRS issues—Gerry’s surprising story 17:43 How to connect with Gerry for private, judgment-free help 18:53 Stress relief, timing, and why you shouldn’t wait Quotables “The IRS can freeze your paycheck, seize your bank account, or put a lien on your property with just one letter.” “The last thing you want to do is give the IRS your money and then try to get it back.” “When you offload to the right person, it’s like taking a 50-pound weight off your chest.” Links Gerry Delang gerry@endtaxproblems.com QLS Live http://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast QLS 4.0 http://smartrealestatecoach.com/qls4.0podcast Apprentice Program http://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprenticepodcast In the Trenches Bootcamp http://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittbpodcast 3 Paydays Virtual Event http://smartrealestatecoach.com/3paydayspodcast Masterclass ($297) http://smartrealestatecoach.com/webinarpodcast Masterclass (Apprentice) http://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast Wicked Smart Books http://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast Strategy Session http://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast REI Blackbook http://smartrealestatecoach.com/reibb-dd 7 Figures Funding http://smartrealestatecoach.com/7figures-pod Landvoice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/landvoice-pod

Sep 3, 2025 • 22min
Episode 523: Why Fear, Doubt, & Perfectionism is Keeping You From Achieving Your Goals
In this solo cast, I’m bringing you behind the scenes of our In the Trenches Bootcamp and sharing the questions I ask every attendee—and the surprising answers I keep getting. Too many investors set goals but stop short of executing, and that’s what holds them back. As you watch this episode, I challenge you to stop waiting for the “perfect time” and start treating your goals as committed plans backed by consistent action. I’ll walk you through why most people freeze up, the system I teach for breaking paralysis, and the mindset shifts that separate the top 3% of doers from the 97% of dreamers. If you’ve been sitting on the sidelines or if you’ve been “getting ready to get ready”, this episode is your wake-up call to act. Key Talking Points of the Episode 00:00 Introduction 01:54 The 3 questions I ask every attendee about jobs, goals, and deals 02:49 The surprising truth: Nobody nailed their 2024 goals 05:18 Goals vs. committed plans: Why action is the only bridge 06:52 Why “someday” is a trap and why you need predictable plans now 08:10 How our system works: Done with you, not done for you 09:08 Fear, doubt, and perfectionism: The real reasons people freeze 10:36 The danger of waiting for the “perfect moment” to start 11:28 How to shift from thinking to doing: Breaking goals into steps 12:33 Setting non-negotiable deadlines and building accountability 14:18 The ACAA framework: Action, Critique, Adjust—repeat endlessly 16:06 Why failure, setbacks, and curveballs are part of the process 16:50 3 reasons people fail: no implementation, no support, false expectations 17:52 How to get personalized coaching and accountability 18:31 Final challenge: there are thousands of excuses, but only one action that matters 19:09 Book recommendation: Undeniable by Cameron Haynes Quotables “Goals mean absolutely nothing. A committed plan with action is the only thing that matters.” “Action is the only bridge from where you are now to where you want to be.” “Perfectionism is a trap. Progress is what creates confidence.” Links QLS Live http://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast QLS 4.0 http://smartrealestatecoach.com/qls4.0podcast Apprentice Program http://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprenticepodcast In the Trenches Bootcamp http://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittbpodcast 3 Paydays Virtual Event http://smartrealestatecoach.com/3paydayspodcast Masterclass ($297) http://smartrealestatecoach.com/webinarpodcast Masterclass (Apprentice) http://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast Wicked Smart Books http://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast Strategy Session http://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast REI Blackbook http://smartrealestatecoach.com/reibb-dd 7 Figures Funding http://smartrealestatecoach.com/7figures-pod Landvoice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/landvoice-pod

Aug 27, 2025 • 35min
Episode 522: Scaling from 5 to 34 Units with Creative Deals with Joe Jensen
In this Wicked Smart Master’s Class, I sit down with Joe Jensen—a thrill-seeker turned real estate investor who scaled from 5 to 34 units in less than two years. Joe’s story takes us from growing up on a rural ranch in Utah, to a decade in door-to-door sales, to building a diverse real estate portfolio that gave him the freedom to raise his kids and live life on his terms. Joe shares how divorce reshaped his mindset, why leveraging debt safely was a game-changer, and how he used multiple creative strategies such as seller financing, subject-to deals, partnerships, and even buying dirt lots to hit his freedom number within one year. Whether you’re new to investing or looking to pivot, Joe’s journey is packed with practical insights, mindset shifts, and a reminder that clarity of goals is everything. Key Talking Points of the Episode 00:00 Introduction 01:03 Who is Joe Jensen? 02:13 Podcasts: Real Estate Investing School & Not So Average Joe 02:51 Growing up on a ranch in rural Utah & lessons in hard work 04:20 First sales jobs: roofing, waiting tables, and a church mission that taught grit 06:01 Getting into real estate through an FHA townhome & rental properties 07:11 The turning point: divorce, two kids, and a year to figure out real estate 08:12 Breaking old beliefs about debt and learning the power of leverage 09:56 Using multiple strategies: seller finance, subject-to, cash buys, partnerships 12:38 Why he experimented with every asset class to “teach what he did” 13:14 Dirt lots: renting land to RV/mobile homeowners for passive income 15:11 The importance of defining your goals, timeframe, and resources 19:26 Perspective is Power: Leveraging life challenges instead of excuses 21:36 Breaking out of the “safe bubble” and taking more risks after the divorce 23:17 Thrill-seeking adventures: cliff swings, triathlons, and making play a priority 26:25 Advice to W-2 employees: the importance of a clear plan and timeframes 28:28 How to get in touch with Joe 29:21 Current plan: simplifying the portfolio, buying quality assets, and future multifamily 31:05 The power of clarity and community Quotables “Blame is the enemy of progress. Ownership is the fuel for momentum.” “Debt felt like the devil growing up but once I understood leverage, it became the game-changer.” “You don’t get rich off cash flow, you get freedom. You get rich off equity growth.” Links Joe Jensen https://linktr.ee/josephfjensen Real Estate Investing School Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/6X10Xeascsh6LIWzGdDlht The Not So Average Joe Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/2WR4MqlTXJa1p2AlFbiSdo QLS Live http://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast QLS 4.0 http://smartrealestatecoach.com/qls4.0podcast Apprentice Program http://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprenticepodcast In the Trenches Bootcamp http://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittbpodcast 3 Paydays Virtual Event http://smartrealestatecoach.com/3paydayspodcast Masterclass ($297) http://smartrealestatecoach.com/webinarpodcast Masterclass (Apprentice) http://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast Wicked Smart Books http://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast Strategy Session http://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast REI Blackbook http://smartrealestatecoach.com/reibb-dd 7 Figures Funding http://smartrealestatecoach.com/7figures-pod Landvoice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/landvoice-pod

Aug 20, 2025 • 23min
Episode 521: The 10-Year Freedom Plan to Build Wealth, Ditch Debt, and Take Control with Adam Carroll
Adam Carroll, an internationally recognized financial literacy expert and TEDx speaker, shares his insights on achieving financial freedom. He introduces his 10-Year Freedom Plan and explains The Shred Method, which allows people to pay off debt and mortgages efficiently. Adam emphasizes the importance of mastering liquidity and cash flow for aspiring entrepreneurs. He also discusses skill stacking, mentorship, and overcoming complacency, urging listeners to confront their fears for a more prosperous financial future.

Aug 13, 2025 • 18min
Episode 520: 4 Levels of Motivation for Motivated Seller Leads with Shaun Farr
In this episode, I’m joined by Shaun Farr, President of Landvoice, a leading real estate technology and data firm that’s been helping investors and agents find profitable off-market deals since 1991. Shaun shares exactly how Landvoice sources its unique lists that include pre-foreclosures, for-sale-by-owners, expired listings, and a brand-new distressed properties dataset—and why these tools give you an edge in today’s competitive market. We also dig into compliance, targeting strategies, and how combining great data with creative deal structuring can create win-win solutions for sellers and investors alike. Whether you’re looking for your first deal or adding to an already robust portfolio, this conversation will open your eyes to data-driven ways to find opportunities other investors don’t even know exist. Key Talking Points of the Episode 00:00 Introduction 01:28 What is LandVoice? 03:07 Specializing in off-market data for real estate investors 06:12 Pre-foreclosure and REO data: how Landvoice blends multiple sources for accuracy 08:04 Expired listings and why agents love partnering with investors 09:01 Neighborhood search tool for hyper-targeted prospecting 10:15 The new Distressed Property list: 4 levels of motivation before foreclosure 12:09 How distressed data + creative deal structuring creates win-wins 14:08 New tools coming to LandVoice in October 15:01 Join QLS Live in October! Quotables “We’re blending the biggest foreclosure sources to eliminate blind spots. You won’t find a better file in the country.” “The distressed list gets you in front of homeowners before the foreclosure competition shows up.” “Expired listings are gold because you’re negotiating directly with the homeowner, not through a licensed agent.” Links QLS Live https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast FREE Master’s Class http://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre http://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast QLS 4.0 https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources Apprentice Program https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod 3 Paydays Virtual Event https://smartrealestatecoach.com/3paydayspodcast REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-pod 7 Figures Funding https://smartrealestatecoach.com/7figures-pod Land Voice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/landvoice-pod Propsperity https://propsperity.io