The Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast|Real Estate Investing

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Aug 20, 2025 • 23min

Episode 521: The 10-Year Freedom Plan to Build Wealth, Ditch Debt, and Take Control with Adam Carroll

In this Wicked Smart Master’s Class, I sit down once again with Adam Carroll—internationally recognized financial literacy expert, best-selling author, TEDx speaker, and creator of The Shred Method.   Adam has been a repeat guest on our podcast because every time he joins us, he brings fresh strategies and insights that help our community accelerate their journey to financial freedom. In this episode, Adam shares the foundation of his 10-Year Freedom Plan, how The Shred Method helps people pay off mortgages and debt faster than they ever thought possible, and why mastering liquidity and cash flow makes the leap from employee to entrepreneur less risky and more rewarding.   Whether you’re preparing to leave a job, scaling your investing business, or just looking to get ahead financially, this episode will give you practical, proven steps to take control of your money and create lasting wealth.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 01:07 Who is Adam Carroll? 03:06 The Shred Method: The purpose behind it and what’s new 05:37 How Shred reduces monthly mortgage payments without refinancing 06:47 Overcoming undercapitalization through The Shred Method 07:35 The role of coaching, mentors, and masterminds in accelerating success 10:23 Stacking skills and knowledge for exponential growth 14:04 Overcoming status quo bias and pushing past excuses 15:03 The cave you fear to enter holds the answers you seek 17:59 Learn more about The Shred Method 18:14 Uncertainty in the economy = opportunity for prepared investors 19:30 Combining Smart Real Estate strategies with Shred for maximum results   Quotables   “The number one thing that will kill a business is being undercapitalized.”   “When you invest heavily in coaching and mentorship, your income expands tremendously.”   “Uncertainty breeds opportunity for the people who are prepared.”   Links   The Shred Method https://smartrealestatecoach.com/shredmethod QLS Live https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class http://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre http://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast   QLS 4.0 https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   Apprentice Program https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   3 Paydays Virtual Event https://smartrealestatecoach.com/3paydayspodcast   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-pod   7 Figures Funding https://smartrealestatecoach.com/7figures-pod   Land Voice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/landvoice-pod   Propsperity https://propsperity.io
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Aug 13, 2025 • 18min

Episode 520: 4 Levels of Motivation for Motivated Seller Leads with Shaun Farr

In this episode, I’m joined by Shaun Farr, President of Landvoice, a leading real estate technology and data firm that’s been helping investors and agents find profitable off-market deals since 1991.   Shaun shares exactly how Landvoice sources its unique lists that include pre-foreclosures, for-sale-by-owners, expired listings, and a brand-new distressed properties dataset—and why these tools give you an edge in today’s competitive market. We also dig into compliance, targeting strategies, and how combining great data with creative deal structuring can create win-win solutions for sellers and investors alike.   Whether you’re looking for your first deal or adding to an already robust portfolio, this conversation will open your eyes to data-driven ways to find opportunities other investors don’t even know exist.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 01:28 What is LandVoice? 03:07 Specializing in off-market data for real estate investors 06:12 Pre-foreclosure and REO data: how Landvoice blends multiple sources for accuracy 08:04 Expired listings and why agents love partnering with investors 09:01 Neighborhood search tool for hyper-targeted prospecting 10:15 The new Distressed Property list: 4 levels of motivation before foreclosure 12:09 How distressed data + creative deal structuring creates win-wins 14:08 New tools coming to LandVoice in October 15:01 Join QLS Live in October!   Quotables   “We’re blending the biggest foreclosure sources to eliminate blind spots. You won’t find a better file in the country.”   “The distressed list gets you in front of homeowners before the foreclosure competition shows up.”   “Expired listings are gold because you’re negotiating directly with the homeowner, not through a licensed agent.”   Links   QLS Live https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class http://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre http://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast   QLS 4.0 https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   Apprentice Program https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   3 Paydays Virtual Event https://smartrealestatecoach.com/3paydayspodcast   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-pod   7 Figures Funding https://smartrealestatecoach.com/7figures-pod   Land Voice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/landvoice-pod   Propsperity https://propsperity.io
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Aug 6, 2025 • 27min

Episode 519: Mindset Over Skillset to Build Wealth, Confidence, and Mental Clarity with Jason Abell

In this Wicked Smart Master’s Class, I sit down with Jason Abell—speaker, coach, and co-founder of Rewire, to talk about what it really takes to make a sustainable transition from W-2 life to entrepreneurial freedom. Jason spent over two decades in the mortgage industry before answering the deeper calling to help others grow through mindset transformation.   We unpack the difference between skillset and mindset coaching, why emotional intelligence is the most underrated leadership tool, and how you can start preparing now to make your next leap, whether it’s quitting your job, scaling your business, or improving your personal life.   If you’ve ever felt “ready to be ready,” this episode will challenge you to take action today and get your inner house in order.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 01:45 The voice inside: wanting to do for others what early mentors did for him 04:59 The reality of leaving your W-2 for entrepreneurship 05:48 The importance of running your life like a business and having options 08:07 “Start now”: practical steps for building your financial runway before making a leap 09:53 The power of coaching: why telling someone your goals brings them to life 12:02 How community and accountability will help you achieve your goals 15:42 Why readiness is the real secret to success 18:08 Emotional intelligence, mindset mastery, and how Rewire helps leaders think differently 21:19 Iceberg model: why you must go below the surface to create lasting change 23:34 Final reflections, Smart Real Estate Coach bootcamp info, and upcoming live events   Quotables   “We can’t do anything about yesterday—but we can start now.”   “Telling someone your goal changes everything. Even if it’s just your partner or friend, that accountability is powerful.”   “Results are the tip of the iceberg. If you want to change those, you have to go underwater to work on your thoughts and emotions.”   Links   Rewire https://www.rewireinc.com/   Jason Abell https://www.instagram.com/rewirejason   QLS Live https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class http://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre http://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast   QLS 4.0 https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   Apprentice Program https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   3 Paydays Virtual Event https://smartrealestatecoach.com/3paydayspodcast   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-pod   7 Figures Funding https://smartrealestatecoach.com/7figures-pod   Land Voice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/landvoice-pod   Propsperity https://propsperity.io
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Jul 30, 2025 • 35min

Episode 518: How Letting Go Can 10X Your Growth As A Real Estate Investor with Rob Chavez

In this episode, I sit down with real estate investor and entrepreneur Rob Chavez, CEO of Caza Group and founder of the GRID Investor Network. Rob’s built a vertically integrated real estate business spanning sales, construction, private lending, investments, and property management—and he didn’t do it by doing everything himself.   Rob walks us through his transition from solopreneur to CEO, the hard lessons he learned chasing too many rabbits at once, and how letting go of control ultimately 10x’d his income.    Whether you’re just starting out or you’re an experienced investor stuck on the transaction treadmill, this conversation is packed with actionable insight to help you scale, leverage, and build wealth for the long haul.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 01:11 Meet Rob Chavez: Caza Group, GRID Investor Network, and a mission to build wealth through real estate 02:40 Life as a D1 athlete, psych major, and the power of proximity to a mentor 06:03 Working 4:30 AM to 9 PM: Lessons from a serial entrepreneur who modeled success 10:00 Learning to utilize the power of leveraging to streamline and scale the business 13:02 Rob’s operating system B.O.S.S. and the 7 Levels of Freedom 17:05 Helping entrepreneurs evolve from self-employed to business owner 20:00 Overcoming burnout, broken marriages, and bottleneck thinking as a solopreneur 21:25 Why scaling takes 2–3 years and what most people get wrong 24:01 Mastering money math, building leverage, and hiring right 28:05 The importance of inventory stacking, strategy shifts, and recession lessons 30:26 You’re one relationship away from your next breakthrough   Quotables   “Solopreneurs are often stuck in this idea that nobody can do it better than them. That’s false.”   “Everything you want in life is usually one relationship away.”   “It takes 2 to 3 years to really build a scalable business model—don’t quit 18 months in.”   Links   The Income Flip Podcast https://www.gridinvestor.com/podcast   GRID Investor Network https://www.gridinvestor.com/   Rob Chevez https://www.instagram.com/robchevez   QLS Live https://qlslive.com   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class http://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre http://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast   QLS 4.0 https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   Apprentice Program https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   3 Paydays Virtual Event https://smartrealestatecoach.com/3paydayspodcast   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-pod   7 Figures Funding https://smartrealestatecoach.com/7figures-pod   Land Voice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/landvoice-pod   Propsperity https://propsperity.io
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Jul 23, 2025 • 28min

Episode 517: Why "Hustle Culture" Almost Broke Me & Built A Business That Runs Without Me with Jason Wojo

In this episode, we’re sitting down with Jason Wojo, CEO and owner of Lifeonaire, to explore how real estate investors and entrepreneurs can build businesses that truly support the lifestyle they want—not enslave them. From earning a PhD to leaving science for flipping houses, Jason’s journey is anything but ordinary. He shares how he transitioned from rehabbing homes to coaching others on creating vision-driven businesses that don’t sacrifice life in the name of success.   You’ll hear Jason’s biggest mistakes, lessons from $90K in credit card debt, and why “grind culture” is not the path to freedom. Whether you’re just getting started or leveling up, this conversation will push you to rethink what wealth really means, how you spend your time, and how to build a business that supports—not sabotages—the life you actually want.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 01:57 Jason’s backstory: From scientist to entrepreneur 04:07 How Jason got into real estate investing 05:41 The real estate trap: Early success, then burnout 06:29 From member to coach to CEO in Lifeonaire 07:11 Jason’s journey in real estate: Rehabbing, wholesaling, new construction, lending 08:01 The impact of having mentors throughout your career 10:39 How to overcome the fear of speaking to people about your deals 15:00 3 mistakes that nearly derailed Jason’s business 17:39 What Lifeonaire actually does and how it helps entrepreneurs 20:02 The danger of shiny object syndrome in real estate 22:17 The power of believing in delayed gratification 23:44 Why success takes years and not just months 25:00 You can have both the life and the business   Quotables   “Success is a crock pot business, not a microwave one.”   “You can absolutely have the life you want and the business you want at the same time.”   “I was making it all about me and that’s why I was scared to speak. But if you know you can help someone, it’s selfish not to speak up.”   Links   Jason Wojo jasonwojo@lifeonaire.com Lifeonaire https://lifeonaire.com/   Smart Real Estate Coach Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/getgoing   QLS Live https://qlslive.com   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class http://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre http://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast   QLS 4.0 https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   Apprentice Program https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   3 Paydays Virtual Event https://smartrealestatecoach.com/3paydayspodcast   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-pod   7 Figures Funding https://smartrealestatecoach.com/7figures-pod   Land Voice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/landvoice-pod
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Jul 16, 2025 • 30min

Episode 516: $47K Creative Finance Deal Breakdown by Two Investors with Steve Kinsley & Chuck Bingham

Welcome to another FamilyCast episode! Today, we’re sitting down with Steve Kinsley and Chuck Bingham, two associates in the Smart Real Estate Coach community who’ve teamed up to build their real estate business using creative financing strategies. Steve and Chuck share their journeys from ministry and design careers into the real estate investing world, and how they’re leveraging subject-to deals and lease purchases to generate cash flow while helping people in tough situations.   They also break down the details of their first deal together, how they structure their partnership roles, and why community support and accountability have been critical to their early success.    If you’re curious about how to start in creative financing or why support, structure, and service matter—this episode delivers a roadmap and a ton of real talk.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 01:23 Meet Steve and Chuck: life before real estate and the reasons that drove them in 04:18 First deal in New Orleans: 11 people on the deed 06:59 Joining the Wicked Smart community and attending the In the Trenches Bootcamp 08:43 How seeing real deals helps with confidence and going all in 10:05 Why resilience and support are key in this business 11:33 Support from coaches in the Wicked Smart Community 15:56 Smart Real Estate Coach Apprentice Program, In the Trenches Bootcamp 16:50 Deal Breakdown: Expired listing → subject-to → $47K in 3 paydays 20:36 The buyer vetting process and working with mortgage professionals 24:12 The power of being around like-minded investors   Quotables   “We knew we needed income outside a W-2. When I found the Wicked Smart community, it just clicked.”   “You’ve got to have resilience to be in this business. But once you get the momentum, the potential is massive.”   “It’s not theory here. It’s practice. And the support between coaches and community is second to none.”   Links   QLS Live https://qlslive.com   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class http://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre http://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast   QLS 4.0 https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   Apprentice Program https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   3 Paydays Virtual Event https://smartrealestatecoach.com/3paydayspodcast   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-pod   7 Figures Funding https://smartrealestatecoach.com/7figures-pod   Land Voice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/landvoice-pod
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Jul 9, 2025 • 29min

Episode 515: How This Top Agent Turned a Referral-Based Business into a Media Empire with Deidre Quinn

In this week’s Wicked Smart Master’s Class, we welcome Deidre Quinn, 22-year real estate veteran and founder of The Deidre Quinn Team at eXp Realty. Deidre is more than just a top-producing agent—she’s a forward-thinking entrepreneur, podcast host, media contributor, and coach who thrives on building relationships, amplifying her voice through content, and staying ahead of industry trends.   In this conversation, Deidre shares her journey through market shifts, technological disruption, and personal reinvention. From building a referral-based team culture to launching her Pending & Trending podcast and appearing on HGTV’s American Dream, she reveals what it takes to grow with integrity, pivot with purpose, and stay passionate about your work after two decades in the business.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 01:16 Who is Deidre Quinn? 03:08 How real estate has evolved: From fax machines to AI 05:01 The impact of AI on coaching and client expectations 08:23 Market downturns, pivots, and staying relevant 09:09 Coaching, learning, and delegation in real estate 11:13 Building a referral-based business and expanding reach 15:24 Launching the Pending & Trending podcast and the power of platforms 17:58 Why Deidre never “sells” and how her business thrives on relationship-first principles 18:56 Taking part in HGTV’s American Dream to highlight Philadelphia 21:23 Operating in the Greater Philadelphia area and expanding to the Poconos market 23:21 How you can get in touch with Deidre and her team 24:06 Lead with value, stay adaptable, and prioritize the client   Quotables   “If you don’t pivot, your time in the industry is going to be really short.”   “People always need a place to live. And if you’re good at what you do, they’ll always need your help.”   “You can’t just stay the same and expect everything to stay the same around you.”   Links   The Deidre Quinn Team https://www.deidrequinn.com/ https://www.facebook.com/DeidreQuinnTeam https://www.instagram.com/teamquinnstagram   QLS Live https://qlslive.com   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class http://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre http://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast   QLS 4.0 https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   Apprentice Program https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   3 Paydays Virtual Event https://smartrealestatecoach.com/3paydayspodcast   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-pod   7 Figures Funding https://smartrealestatecoach.com/7figures-pod   Land Voice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/landvoice-pod
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Jul 2, 2025 • 33min

Episode 514: How Rick Escaped His W-2 & Used Creative Deals to Retire with Confidence with Rick Marotto

In this episode, we’re sitting down with Rick Marotto, a High 6 Associate in the Wicked Smart Community, who shares his incredible journey from healthcare professional to real estate investor. Rick and his wife Linda initially ventured into house flipping as a means to secure their retirement, only to face roadblocks, setbacks, and disappointing coaching. But their story didn’t end there.   After a rough start in traditional real estate, Rick discovered the Smart Real Estate Coach community and completely transformed his approach. In this episode, he shares how the “in-the-trenches” support, bootcamps, and clear planning helped him confidently close creative deals and generate three-payday profits—all while helping buyers get back on their feet.    If you’re looking to ditch the W-2 and replace it with a step-by-step investing strategy, Rick’s story is packed with insight and encouragement.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 03:24 Rick’s story: from the medical field to real estate investing05:10 Bootcamp experience and a boost in confidence 07:27 Real-time coaching, dials, and how practice built belief 09:00 Managing full-time jobs while launching a real estate business 10:14 Setting a retirement plan vs. just a goal 14:42 Rick’s first creative deal and how it helped a buyer reclaim his family 18:51 How Rick’s 2nd deal turned a seller’s problem into a sub-to success 20:33 Defining terms in creative real estate: VA, AO, resetting the clock 24:06 Buyers vs. Sellers: Which is harder to find? 25:37 Why bootcamps and QLS Live are game-changers Quotables   “We were working full-time, trying to get the flipping business off the ground. It just wasn’t sustainable.”   “After the bootcamp, I started making dials and I could hear myself differently. The confidence boost was huge.”   “Creative real estate creates a win-win-win. The buyer wins, the seller wins, and we win.”   Links   QLS Live https://qlslive.com   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class http://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre http://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast   QLS 4.0 https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   Apprentice Program https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   3 Paydays Virtual Event https://smartrealestatecoach.com/3paydayspodcast   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-pod   7 Figures Funding https://smartrealestatecoach.com/7figures-pod   Land Voice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/landvoice-pod
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Jun 25, 2025 • 31min

Episode 513: Passive Income Strategies for High Earners with Tait Duryea

Tait Duryea, an airline pilot turned real estate investor and founder of Turbine Capital, shares his journey from cockpit to cash flow. He discusses innovative strategies for pilots and high earners to break free from financial constraints. Tait dives into his private equity firm’s unique approach, high-risk investment ventures, and the allure of luxury tiny homes. He emphasizes the importance of diversification and the lessons learned from recent market challenges, providing valuable insights for aspiring investors to thrive in today's economy.
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Jun 18, 2025 • 30min

Episode 512: Leverage Business Credit to Scale Your REI Business with Leo Kanell

In this episode of The Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast, we’re sitting down again with Leo Kanell, founder of Seven Figures Funding, for a powerful masterclass on how to strategically access business credit and funding—even if you’re just getting started.   Leo breaks down how real estate investors and entrepreneurs can use personal and business credit the right way to unlock capital, avoid common pitfalls, and scale faster.    From building credit through a brand-new LLC to leveraging business cards that don’t report to your personal profile, this episode is packed with practical steps to get funding without tanking your credit score.   Key Talking Points of the Episode   00:00 Introduction 01:35 Who is Leo Kanell? 03:45 The problem with always needing more capital as an investor 05:35 Focusing on helping investors build business credit for more capital 06:38 The power of revolving business credit vs. personal credit 09:40 Can a brand new LLC qualify for funding? 11:24 Personal + business credit strategy for highest capital access 13:06 Soft credit checks vs. hard inquiries: how Seven Figures handles it 17:17 New fintech cash flow platform for real estate investors 20:36 The #1 mistake new investors make with available credit 22:07 Autopay strategy and monitoring credit monthly 24:37 What changes when you have access to capital as an investor 26:35 Smart Real Estate Coach Resources   Quotables   “You’re not paying interest unless you use it—so why not get access to capital now, before you need it?”   “You don’t want to drain your savings. You want options. And that’s what business credit gives you.”   “When you invest in yourself, amazing things happen. Access to capital opens the door.”   Links   Episode 387: Funding Your Small Business, With Leo Kanell https://smartrealestatecoach.com/podcasts/leo-kanell/   Seven Figures Club Podcast https://7figures.com/7-figures-club/   Seven Figures Club https://smartrealestatecoach.com/7figures   The Business Funding Formula https://www.amazon.com/Business-Funding-Formula-Entrepreneurs-Businesses/dp/1542948576   QLS Live https://qlslive.com   Real Estate On Your Terms and Deal Structure Overtime https://wickedsmartbooks.com/podcast   FREE Master’s Class http://smartrealestatecoach.com/masterspodcast   FREE Strategy Session with Chris Pre http://smartrealestatecoach.com/actionpodcast   QLS 4.0 https://smartrealestatecoach.com/qlspodcast   Investor Resources https://smartrealestatecoach.com/resources   Apprentice Program https://smartrealestatecoach.com/apprentice-pod   In the Trenches Bootcamp https://smartrealestatecoach.com/ittb-pod   3 Paydays Virtual Event https://smartrealestatecoach.com/3paydayspodcast   REI Blackbook https://smartrealestatecoach.com/REIBB-pod   7 Figures Funding https://smartrealestatecoach.com/7figures-pod   Land Voice https://smartrealestatecoach.com/landvoice-pod

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