Deconversion Therapy

Bonnie and Karen shepherd you through the religious obstacles of Thanksgiving dinner. We throw in a history lesson, sprinkle it with some rat urine, and then send you into the lion's den. Good luck, Champ.

How did this story of violent death and floating babies turn into the cutest story in the Bible, with cute toys being given to children at Christmas?  Bonne and Karen tackle the issues that float to the top with this fantastical story they both thought was real growing up. 

Kanye's back with more of his Christian humility and putting others first. We've got Paula White receiving an official White House position. And it all wraps up with the bombshell accusations about sexual misconduct of comedian John Crist. Never a week off around here. We get Kanye out of the way by talking about how upset he is that he can't do math for Forbes. Paula, Paula, Paula. Paula White is in the news again because Trump gave her an official posting. NowThis made a video of her clips. America, you in trouble girl. John Crist is a snarky Christian comedian who actually has some good bits, moslty because he wasn't afraid of poking fun at Christian stereotypes. This week, a Christian news outlet broke the news of his sexual misconduct, leading to him canceling his tour and Netflix canceling his special. Thanks for all the letters recently. We love reading them.

Have you NOT subscribed? Really? Tapping that button is just too much of a strain on the digits? Come on, help a poddy mouth out. This month’s Lettersode went sidewayyyyys. It wasn’t the letter writers’ fault. We recorded in the morning and were much more chipper, and sometimes things in our path get destroyed. Our letters from Bethany, Fred, and Brad were awesome. We have curse words, Gary Smalley, and more Multi-level marketing fun. If you’ve braved coming to see show notes, your reward is the picture of the nipple foot Bonnie sent me. Please support the podcast by visiting (that means buying) our SHOP. Plus, sign up fro Audible using our code www.Audibletrial.com/Deconversion . It’s the holidays. Treat your self to more hours of entertainment.  

No, we did not make that word up. But sadly, someone else did. This week Karen and Bonnie share their memories of Halloweens past, when the church hadn't upped the ante on hijacking it for Fall Festivals and Hallelujah Nights. Or JesusWeens, a concept that didn't make it far out of the gate, but far enough for it to still be out there. There are two great letters from listeners who had to celebrate Halloween at church, hints on how to survive waterboarding, and these tacky Christian-themed Halloween items. We’d love to hear any stories of this Halloween, past ones, or see some costumes. The laughing is a two-way street. Don’t forget we have a SHOP. We’d love you to…shop there. www.deconversiontherapypodcast.com

Bonnie and Karen were ready to skewer everything and everyone connected to hateful Westboro Baptist, with their God Hates Fags picket lines. But then they read Unfollow by Megan Phelps-Roper who left the church (her entire family) and has now come out with the book. Despicable? Yes. Hurtful? Of course. But with hearing and reading from the granddaughter of the founder of the church, we understand the psychology more. We also highlight the Equality House, a home purchased across the street form Westboro Baptist that has become an LBGT museum and is painted like a huge rainbow flag. Once again, we learned a lot from this episode. It hurts our egos to keep learning like this. Send your funny and true stories to us at www.deconversiontherapypodcast.com. We've got a shop on there, too.  

It's just a little fun on the side. Sell some oils or woven baskets, make some pocket money. Of course, that's not how it ends up at all. Multi-Level marketing companies are mainly Christian/Mormon run--Mary Kay, DoTerra Oils, Pampered Chef, Advocare, and many more. The secret hidden in plain sight is that 75% of people (ok, women) who join MLMs don't make money. And about 50% LOSE money.  Bonnie and Karen discuss which MLMs are religious-based, why, and what the hell is going on.  They try to keep their usual light manner, but it gets hard when so many mothers are getting shafted by something that is supposed to empower them. A big thanks to the podcast The Dream by Jane Marie for covering this topic in depth. Find more on our website.  Find us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook Page And please SUBSCRIBE. Thank you.  We Have a SHOP. Check it out and help support our podcast.  

Listener letter time. Weird, quirky, and hilarious. Bonnie and Karen read from their virtual stack. If you've been holding onto a humorous story to do with religion or church, send it in HERE.   

Karen and Bonnie discuss Kanye West’s Sunday Services going on around the country. Find us on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook Page And please SUBSCRIBE. Thank you. We Have a SHOP. Check it out and help support our podcast. Karen and Bonnie begin by trying to figure out what a Wonderwall is, reminisce about Saturday Night Live’s Shweddy Balls skit, and discuss writings on bathroom walls before getting down to professionally analyzing Kanye West. Kanye’s new church services are in Calabasas, CA to Detroit to wherever he flies his choir to next. It’s a music-only service, which kills Bonnie. And he doesn’t even do Golddigger! It's all leading up to his new album release: Jesus is King.  They discuss Kanye’s bi-polar, liposuction, and criticism. Plus, something we didn't know is the Kardashian's previous involvement in another California church. All we can say is #FreeKanye, because we feel like we’re watching a car wreck in slo mo. You can also listen to us on: iTunes Spotify Stitcher Overcast  

The Quiverfull Movement is all about letting God give you as many babies as possible to build up the Army of God. Think, the Duggars.  We want to make 2 things clear at the get-go: Having a lot of kids is not bad, no matter how much we laugh at it. All big families aren’t quiverfull either.  Many women have been hurt by this movement, so rest assured we understand the gravity of the hurt that women and kids, especially have experienced with this. Just like our episodes on cults or conmen preachers, we find humor on the edges, and hope a wider audience who enjoys idiotic hosts learn about things they didn’t know was going on around them. Karen and Bonnie let you in on what they'd name their kids if they had a bundle of them. Then they discuss the origin and widespread reach of the movement. It's as messed up as you think it is.  From women not using a tampon for decades because they're knocked up, to the harsh discipline, and vasectomy and tubal tie reversal ministries, it's f-ed up. We also read stories from former quiverfull women who are, thankfully, out now. Our sources: La Wikipedia and article Bonnie read from. Terrible abusive video from Debi and Micheal Pearl (starts at the 1:25 mark). We have a SHOP. Come browse and get cute, profane gear! For our listeners, Audible is offering a FREE MONTH and ONE FREE BOOK if you sign up at audibletrial.com/Deconversion. You can also listen at: iTunes Spotify Stitcher Overcast YouTube