Sales Talk for CEOs

Alice Heiman
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Oct 14, 2025 • 48min

Ep181 From “Disruptive Influence” to CEO Storytelling Coach: How Jeff Abracen Helps Founders Sell with Stories

When CEOs struggle to connect with customers, teams, or investors, it's rarely a strategy problem, it’s a storytelling problem. In this episode of Sales Talk for CEOs, Alice Heiman sits down with Jeff Abracen, Founder of Disruptive Influence and storytelling coach to tech leaders, to uncover why a great story is a terrible thing to waste.Jeff shares how he turned a high school “disruptive influence” label into a superpower for transforming leaders into magnetic storytellers. With a focus on the Disruptive DNA framework, Jeff teaches CEOs how to own the stage, captivate their audience, and get results, whether it’s on LinkedIn, in a boardroom, or at a major conference.🔑 What you’ll learn:How to use storytelling to increase sales, alignment, and executive presenceThe Disruptive DNA Framework: Differentiate, Narrate, ActivateWhy preparation, not memorization, is the secret to confidence and clarityJeff doesn’t just talk about storytelling, he lives it. You’ll hear actionable advice and real coaching examples from working with SaaS founders and technical executives. If you’re a CEO or founder who needs to inspire action, this episode will help you turn information into influence.Mentioned in the Rapid-Fire:Book Recommendation: The Creative Act: A Way of Being by Rick RubinPodcast Recommendation: Diary of a CEOAdvice for CEOs: “Facts tell, stories sell. Get into people's hearts before you worry about getting into their minds and their wallets.”Connect with:Jeff Abracen: LinkedIn | Disruptive InfluenceRequest the Disruptive DNA framework: DM Jeff on LinkedIn and mention this podcastAlice Heiman: LinkedIn | Website
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Oct 7, 2025 • 23min

Ep180 How to Get in Front of the People Who Can Buy From You

There are two key ways to get in front of the people most likely to buy from you and Alice believes you may be overlooking them. The first is something she talks about all the time. So if you haven’t started expecting your team to do it, now is the time. Referral selling. Yes, you get a few referrals here and there but why not make it a regular occurrence. Alice explains briefly in this episode but for more details listen to episode 147 For more on this listen to episode 147 https://aliceheiman.com/use-the-power-of-referrals-to-close-more-deals/ You must train your team to ask for referrals and then expect them to do it by measuring it and reporting on the results. But Alice shares another great way to get in front of the right people, one that is tried and true and has been working and continues working, events. And in this episode she talks about a very specific type of online event, a Round Table. You invite your target audience and they reason they attend is because they will get to share and learn. Rather than a webinar with talking heads, you invite your target audience to share about something that is happening in their marketplace. Not only are great ideas shared, they all get to meet each other and network. As Alice exclaims, “It’s a win, win, win, win.” Win 1 - You win because you get in front of the right peopleWin 2 - You win again because you have the right people to follow up withWin 3 - They win because they share and hear all the ideas sharedWin 4 - They win because they meet people in their industry they might not have otherwiseAlice explains that she discovered an unexpected side benefit of holding the round table. She had no idea all of the conversations she would have from responses to the invitations. She had so many conversations with people who couldn’t attend. Just what salespeople want, conversations with people who can buy. Alice shares the example of a round table she did recently where she invited CEOs to share, “What CEOs need to know to win in this market.” She’s done 2 others since then and shares those below. You can gather those most likely to buy at a round table and have a win, win, win, win, too. Here are the insights from 3 of the Round Tables Alice has held recently.CEO to CEO: What You Need to Know to Win in This MarketCEO to CEO: What is Actually Working in B2B Lead Generation NowCEO to CEO: How CEOs Are Rethinking Hiring GTM Talent: Insights from the C-Suite RoundtableConnect with Alice Heiman: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheimanWebsite: https://aliceheiman.com
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Sep 30, 2025 • 45min

Ep179 Turn Sales Training into Strategy with AI-Powered Games

Imagine if your sales team could rehearse complex deals before ever meeting the buyer, just like elite athletes pre-game. That’s exactly what Daveed Gartenstein-Ross (CEO) and Alix Berry (COO) of ExpertTheory make possible.In this episode, Alice Heiman dives into how ExpertTheory helps companies simulate real-world sales situations through AI-powered, custom-built games. These immersive experiences go far beyond traditional training, replacing static roleplay with dynamic, scenario-based learning that strengthens team performance, decision-making, and competitive strategy.Connect withDaveed Gartenstein-Ross: LinkedIn Alix Berry: LinkedInExpertTheory: WebsiteAlice Heiman: LinkedIn | Website
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Sep 23, 2025 • 34min

Ep178 How Brittany Trafis Rode the AI Wave to Reinvent the Agency Model (and Grow Sales Fast)

What happens when a seasoned marketer reimagines everything she knows about agencies, on a beach, notebook in hand, while her kids play nearby? Brittany Trafis, CEO and co-founder of Soarion Digital, shares how she built an AI-powered agency that challenges everything about traditional marketing models.In this episode, Brittany walks Alice Heiman through the rapid sales growth of Soarion: from early experiments to real client results, through founder-led sales and how boldly saying “the agency model is broken” helped them break into a noisy market as they prepare to scale.Rapid-Fire Picks:Book: Multipliers by Liz WisemanPodcast: Business WarsAdvice to CEOs: Don’t get lost chasing what’s next, focus on timeless principles. Technology evolves, but people still crave connection and community. Stay grounded in what doesn’t change.🔗 Connect with Brittany & AliceBrittany Trafis: LinkedIn | WebsiteAlice Heiman: LinkedIn | Website
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Sep 16, 2025 • 54min

Ep177 How CEOs Hire A‑Players: Mindset, Bench Strength & the End of Post-and-Pray Hiring

If you’re still posting jobs and hoping A-players apply, you’re already behind.In this high-impact episode, Alice Heiman sits down with Jamie Crosbie, founder of ProActivate and TEDx speaker with over 1 million views on The Power of Your Mindset, to reveal what every CEO needs to know to hire top revenue-generating talent.Most hiring processes are built for convenience, not performance. That’s why companies end up with B-players or worse, just to fill a seat. Jamie shares exactly how CEOs can stop mis-hires before they happen and build bench strength that supports real growth.If you’re a CEO of a B2B company under $100M, this episode is your blueprint for hiring right, every time.📚 Rapid Fire FavoritesBook: The Pivot Year by Brianna Wiest Podcast: Sales Talk for CEOsAdvice to CEOs: “Proactively protect and grow your #1 asset, your people.”🔗 Connect WithJamie Crosbie: LinkedIn | WebsiteJamie’s TEDx Talk: Liar, liar, life on fire: Breaking through your lies to your truthAlice Heiman: LinkedIn | Website
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Sep 9, 2025 • 38min

Ep176 How Base Grew Beyond Referrals with Thoughtful Outbound, Storytelling & the Perfect EA Match

In this episode of Sales Talk for CEOs, Alice Heiman sits down with Paige McPheely, CEO of Base, to explore how she turned a niche remote executive assistant service into a tech-enabled platform that now supports top leaders across the country.When Paige and her co-founder first launched, they were fueled by referrals, so much so that they had a waiting list of eager clients. But as demand surged, they hit a breaking point: the referrals kept coming, but they weren’t the right fit. It forced a strategic shift from a referral-dependent business to a focused outbound sales approach.Today, Paige leads a lean team that gets most of its customers not from ads or cold outreach, but from storytelling. By consistently showing up on LinkedIn, YouTube, and in conversations like this, Base now plays the long game, building trust with CEOs long before they’re ready to buy.✅ Learn how Paige:Transformed referral overload into an effective outbound sales strategyUses LinkedIn and storytelling to fill the funnel with high-intent buyersBundled software + services to create a sticky, high-value offering CEOs trustThis episode is a must-watch for CEOs who need to stop doing it all themselves and start allowing the right support, like an exceptional EA. to help them lead more effectively.📚 Rapid-Fire PicksBook: The Lion Trackers Guide to LifePodcast: FoundersCEO Advice: Be authentic and stop trying to do it all alone. Getting help, whether through an EA, software, or support network, isn’t a luxury, it’s a strategic advantage. Give yourself permission to invest in the support that helps you lead more effectively.🔗 Connect with:Paige McPheely: LinkedIn | WebsiteBase HQ: WebsiteAlice Heiman: LinkedIn | Website
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Sep 3, 2025 • 48min

Ep175 What Sales Used to Get Right and Why CEOs Should Bring It Back

In this episode of Sales Talk for CEOs, Alice Heiman sits down with Todd Caponi, sales historian and author of The Transparency Sale, to explore the forgotten history of sales and why understanding it could completely change how your company grows revenue.We’ve moved from serving buyers to selling at all costs and it’s hurting your sales team, your customer relationships, and your bottom line. Todd takes us back to the early 1900s, when trust, service, and even high school sales classes were the norm.What CEOs will learn:How sales was once respected, admired and taught in schoolsWhen and why we moved from service to high-pressure tacticsWhat today’s sales orgs can learn from 100-year-old best practicesWhy “buyers know more now” isn’t new and never wasTodd brings powerful historical context, rare quotes, and practical examples that challenge how modern sales is built.🤝 Connect With…Todd CaponiWebsite: toddcaponi.comLinkedIn: Todd CaponiPodcast: The Sales History Podcast@SalesHistorian https://instagram.com/saleshistorian/ The Transparency Sale on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2BxenrFThe Transparent Sales Leader on Amazon:  https://www.amzn.com/1646870646📘 Preorder Todd Caponi’s New Book - The Four Levers of NegotiatingOut January 27, 2026Learn how to stop discounting by default and start leading pricing conversations with clarity and confidence.Todd’s Four Levers, Volume, Payment Timing, Commitment Length, and Deal Timing, help sellers create win-win outcomes without racing to the bottom.Alice HeimanWebsite: aliceheiman.comLinkedIn: Alice Heiman
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Aug 26, 2025 • 44min

Ep174 Turning Expertise Into Growth: Building a Top B2B Pharma Agency

When Wesley Portegies left the pharmaceutical world to work in automotive, he didn’t expect it to lead him back, but it did. Armed with a new perspective, he returned with a mission, disrupt how pharma companies communicate with doctors.In this episode, Wesley shares how he co-founded MedComms Experts with no outside funding, no traditional sales team and still built a multi-million dollar agency. He reveals how they landed their first client (Baxter), grew through inbound leads and referrals, and structured the business so sales happens through trust, not tactics.Bio: "Wesley is an entrepreneur who founded his first company at 19 and has built multiple successful businesses, with over 15 years’ experience in the medical industry. In 2012, he launched MedComms Experts in Zurich, later expanding to the US, now employing 50+ professionals. An MBA graduate and active MAPS contributor, Wesley is a strategic, innovative leader recognized for building strong teams and driving industry innovation, and currently serves as Chief Strategy Officer at MedComms Experts."📚 Wesley’s Rapid-Fire PicksBook: Shoe Dog by Phil Knight Podcast: Diary of a CEO Advice to CEOs: “Hold up high standards consistently, people notice the difference.”🔗 Connect with Wesley & AliceWesley Portegies: LinkedIn | WebsiteWesley’s Podcast: Transforming Medical CommunicationsAlice Heiman: LinkedIn | Website
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Aug 19, 2025 • 42min

Ep173 No Trust, No Sales: Fix Your Message Fast with Brian Miller

People don’t trust ads. Or brands. Or even experts.Brian Miller joins Alice Heiman to explain how CEOs can cut through the noise and earn trust, fast.In this episode:Why the trust recession is killing your pipelineThe 3-part message that builds instant engagementHow to make your talk (or pitch) follow the hero’s journeyThe #1 reason your message doesn’t spread and how to fix itKey takeaway: If people can’t repeat what you do, they won’t talk about you.ShownotesGet his new book: https://keynotedesignbook.com  The 10 Questions Every Speech Must Answer (and the order you must answer them in):Will this be worth my time?Is this urgent?So, what is this talk really about?Why should I listen to you?Do I already know how to solve this problem?So, what should I do instead?How do I start?Is this really worth it?Can I go now?Wait, what was this all about again?🔗 Connect with Brian Miller:LinkedIn: Brian Miller - Clarity UpInstagramYouTube PodcastCompany Website🔗 Connect with Alice Heiman: LinkedIn: Alice Heiman Website: aliceheiman.com
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Aug 12, 2025 • 17min

Ep172 Vibe Selling? Cut the Hype: What Really Drives Sales

Vibe selling. AI hype. New sales buzzwords. Alice Heiman isn’t buying it.In this candid solo episode, she calls out the noise and brings the focus back to what matters most for B2B CEOs: knowing your customer, building the right team, and aligning sales to how your buyers buy.Looking for clarity in a world of sales chaos? This episode is for you.Advice to CEOs: “Slow down and think deeply about how your buyers want to buy, then align your entire sales effort to that.”🤝 Connect with Alice:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/ Website: https://aliceheiman.com

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