

Mile High FI Podcast
Doug Cunnington & Carl Jensen
Real talk about Financial Independence and life after corporate jobs. Doug Cunnington and Carl Jensen talk about FI, lifestyle, side hustles, health, and anything on their minds. Plus, they interview experts and non-experts interested in the FI lifestyle. It's raw, candid, pretty much like you get to sit in on a private conversation.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Jan 7, 2022 • 41min
Doug’s into crypto?! | MHFi 039
Has Doug changed his mind on crypto? It’s complicated.
Why Doug didn’t like crypto
Doug’s change of heart
Why Carl almost bought Bitcoin in 2012
Links
#231 – Alex Gladstein: Bitcoin, Authoritarianism, and Human Rights | Lex Fridman Podcast
TMBA422: Crypto: What’s It All About? – Tropical MBA Podcast
Coinbase – Buy and Sell Bitcoin, Ethereum, and more with trust
Understanding the Global Rise of Authoritarianism
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Jan 4, 2022 • 50min
Playing with Fire with Scott Rieckens | MHFi 038
Doug and Carl talk with Scott Rieckens, the creator behind the popular Playing with Fire Documentary. A few highlights from our discussion:
How Scott found FI and how he got his wife on board
Identifying the top ten things that make you happy (and the ten that make you miserable)
Even Happier by Tal-Ben Shahar
How FIRE lets you focus on the good things in life (and why you don’t actually need to be financially independent to do that)
Scott’s experiences with negative attitudes towards FIRE
Scott’s perfect day
Scott’s new project: the online school Hello Compound, where Scott and his partner, Rob, help others to get their financial lives in order.
Playing with FIRE on Amazon
Be sure to check out all Scott’s endeavors and you can follow him on Twitter to see what he’s up to next!
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Dec 28, 2021 • 49min
J$ – Charitable Giving & FI | MHFi 037
In this episode, Doug and Carl interview blogging legend J$, founder of Budgets Are Sexy, Rockstar Finance, and Love Drop. Here are a few highlights of our discussion:
J$ discusses how an innocent apartment search turned into a disastrous home purchase.
Housing
The great “buy versus rent” debate
Why humans sometimes buy homes when they shouldn’t
Budgets Are Sexy
The origin story
Publishing stories that no one else would touch
The joy and pain of publicly sharing net worth
Selling the site
Giving back
Creating good in the world with Love Drop (giving away $90,000!)
Why do some people hate everything?
How Doug gives back
Links
All-Star Money
Budgets Are Sexy
My Money Blog
Side Hustle Series: I’m a “Phone Actress”
The Love Drop “Highlights” Video!
Nate St. Pierre’s Projects That Change the World
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Dec 21, 2021 • 1h 16min
Year End Review | MHFi 036
Doug and Carl talk about how 2021 went and their goals for 2022. They also talk about asparagus.
Opening
Carl comments on Doug’s new hoodie which makes him look exactly like Clifford the big red dog. Or should we say, Clifford the big red Doug.
Mile High FI
Did the podcast live up to expectations?
Wait, what were the expectations?
Doug and Carl talk about 2021
Doug worked less, abandoned a project, went to 3 personal finance events, and took off big chunks of time
Carl worked way too much, stopped exercising, and pretty much said Yes! to everything
Doug and Carl share their resolutions for each other
Carl should do less, but also meditate and journal
Doug should play a live gig and stop obsessing over asparagus
Links
EconoMe Conference – Nov 13th & 14th, 2021
Bitches Get Riches
Melanzana Outdoor Clothing made in Leadville
San Joaquin Asparagus Festival | Visit Stockton
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Dec 14, 2021 • 1h 11min
Create Fearlessly with Jillian Johnsrud | MHFi 035
Doug and Carl talk to Jillian Johnsrud, author, blogger, podcaster, and life coach, about her book, Fire the Haters: Finding Courage to Create Online in a Critical World. Jillian lives in Montana with her husband and five children. She reached financial independence at the age of 32, and now she helps coach others on their journey to FI, as well as helping people through career transitions and supporting them as they launch or seek to grow businesses. In her podcast, Everyday Courage, Jillian talks to guests about FIRE, investing, career trajectories, and how to design a happy and successful life. Here are a few highlights from our discussion with Jillian:
Expectations vs reality as a content creator
How to decouple your self from your work
Trying to make everyone happy is never interesting or engaging
How to get helpful feedback but tune out the trolls
Imposter syndrome
Preparation as a form of procrastination (Did we bully Carl into launching a project he’s been sitting on for years? Maybe!)
Jillian’s perfect day/week
How to reach out to a high-profile person (without being creepy)
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Dec 7, 2021 • 1h 19min
EconoMe Recap | MHFi 034
Doug and Carl talk about the EconoMe conference, bunking together, Skyline Chili, and dutch ovens. Here are a few highlights of their discussion:
Doug discusses a trip to buy an $80 hoodie (the beloved Melanzana)
Carl discusses his recent trip to Butt Rock
EconoMe overview
Doug’s snoring and Carl’s dutch oven
Stacking Benjamins show
Is EconoMe about education, entertainment, community, or all of the above?
Breakout sessions: women personal finance and socially responsible investing
“Hell yeah!!” or “No!” (Derek Sivers) There is no middle ground.
Carl discusses his big talk
Thoughts on Cincinnati and Skyline Chili
Return to EconoMe in 2023?
Other Links
Bitches Get Riches
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Nov 30, 2021 • 1h 8min
How To Sleep Better | MHFi 033
Doug and Carl talk to Kristen Rainey about a topic that matters to everyone: sleep! Kristen Rainey is the founder of Northstar Sleep School, and she takes good sleep seriously. On her podcast, Northstar Unplugged, she talks to fascinating people about health, wellness, and (of course) sleep.
Kristen has accomplished so much in her life. She attended Princeton University and has had multiple successful careers, including working with Google in the food arena to ensure all employees had access to delicious, healthy foods.
Now she has turned her keen eye to the realm of sleep and helps train people to build and maintain excellent sleeping habits and feel better in their lives.
To receive 10 tips for better sleep, go here.
Here are a few highlights of our discussion:
High-stress jobs and how to sleep well even if you have one
Why do we sleep?
How much sleep we need
How to take the perfect nap
Best sleep practices
Building a sleep routine
Dealing with jet lag
Sleep supplements and how other substances affect sleep
Sleep trackers
The ideal sleep environment, including mattress and cooling pad recommendation
We are ready to get a great night’s sleep every night after talking to Kristen, and hope you can pick up some helpful tips from her to help you live a well-rested life!
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Nov 23, 2021 • 1h 3min
When Real Estate Investing Goes Terribly Wrong with JL Collins | MHFi 032
JL Collins joins Carl and Doug to talk about a terrible investment experience with Real Estate. JL tells the story in his new book, How I Lost Money in Real Estate Before It Was Fashionable: A Cautionary Tale.
You probably recognize JL from our other talk with him, or more likely the Google Talk, or his first book, The Simple Path to Wealth. JL is amazing!
🔥 Check out his new book on Amazon [Affiliate Link so we get a commission if you buy it. thanks!]
🔥 How I Lost Money in Real Estate Before It Was Fashionable
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Nov 16, 2021 • 29min
A Purple Life | MHFi 031
In this episode, Doug and Carl interview “Purple” from the blog, A Purple Life. Purple worked for nine years in the marketing industry and then retired early at age 30 to relax and enjoy life in her prime.
Here are a few highlights from our discussion.
– Purple’s work situation
– Quitting work in your prime
– Going back to work?
– Learning about FI
– Life in retirement
– Travel
– Calming down
– Purple’s perfect day
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Nov 9, 2021 • 55min
The F.I.R.E Planner and How to be Financially Alert | MHFi 030
Doug and Carl interview Michael Quan from Financially Alert. Michael blogs over at Financially Alert, and recently published a book The F.I.R.E. Planner, which you can find on Amazon or at Barnes and Noble!
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Opening: Michael talks about some childhood experiences with fire, the bad kind!
Discussion
Growing up with awesome financial role models
Financially Alert blog: Michael’s “why” and the decision to share his net worth
Starting and selling a business
Real estate: long and short-term rentals
The FIRE Planner, Michael’s new book
Why write a book?
Income versus growth investing
The incredible value of resourcefulness
Finding good people to spend your time with
Luxury cars?
Are early retirees who work truly retired?
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