

Mile High FI Podcast
Doug Cunnington & Carl Jensen
Real talk about Financial Independence and life after corporate jobs. Doug Cunnington and Carl Jensen talk about FI, lifestyle, side hustles, health, and anything on their minds. Plus, they interview experts and non-experts interested in the FI lifestyle. It's raw, candid, pretty much like you get to sit in on a private conversation.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Jan 21, 2022 • 24min
Retirement Account Contribution Limits for 2022 | MHFI 043
Doug and Carl talk about investment limit changes for 2022 and Back Door Roths. Here are a few highlights from our discussion:
401k and Roth IRAs
Long term capital gains
The Back Door Roth lives!
Pre-tax verses post-tax investing
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Links:
IRS announces changes to retirement plans for 2022 | Internal Revenue Service
Backdoor Roth 401(k) and IRA rules for the wealthy survive — for now

Jan 18, 2022 • 51min
Mr. Money Mustache Loves Hot Sauces and Waffles on Wednesday | MHFi 042
In this episode, we’re joined by Mr. Money Mustache (aka Pete aka Pedro??) and Ray from Waffles on Wednesday, who showed up to share some beer and all kinds of hot sauce! Among many others, we tried Playing with FIRE Hot Sauce, which is homemade by our recent guest, Scott Rieckens. Listen in as we tackle the Scoville scale and some juicy questions.
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Links:
Playing with Fire Documentary
Waffles on Wednesday on Twitter
Mr. Money Mustache and on Twitter

Jan 14, 2022 • 1h 11min
Is high income necessary for FI, Spending After FI, Mailbag | MHFI 041
In this mailbag episode, Doug and Carl answer questions from listeners. Here’s what we covered:
How is Carl planning for his kids’ college expenses?
What things should you keep in mind when discussing a trust with a lawyer?
What’s up with the Vanguard 2040 target date fund issuing massive capital gains distributions in 2021?
What were our favorite microbrews of 2021?
What was the best personal and professional part of 2021 for us?
Do you need a high salary (or risky investments) to chase FI?
Doug made a lot of 2022 resolutions for Carl, but doesn’t do them himself. What’s up with that?
What do you spend money on that you really value?
Links:
Check out Carl’s talk at Econome! (on YouTube)
Kyle Landis-Marinello’s website
Bozeman Brewing Company
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Jan 11, 2022 • 1h 7min
JL Collins Live Q&A @ Mr. Money Mustache HQ | MHFi 040
In this live recording, Carl interviewed JL Collins at the MMM HQ Co-Working space.
Carl opened the evening with a quiz for audience members. Volunteers had to read a phrase and then decide if the phrase was in a JL Collins book. Find out if Pete (Mr. Money Mustache) gets his question right…
Carl had some questions for JL and then let the audience ask their own.
This was a fun episode, and I hope you enjoy it!
Links (*affiliate links below so we get a commission if you buy something – thank you)
The Simple Path to Wealth
How I Lost Money in Real Estate Before It Was Fashionable: A Cautionary Tale
Mr. Money Mustache HQ
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Jan 7, 2022 • 41min
Doug’s into crypto?! | MHFi 039
Has Doug changed his mind on crypto? It’s complicated.
Why Doug didn’t like crypto
Doug’s change of heart
Why Carl almost bought Bitcoin in 2012
Links
#231 – Alex Gladstein: Bitcoin, Authoritarianism, and Human Rights | Lex Fridman Podcast
TMBA422: Crypto: What’s It All About? – Tropical MBA Podcast
Coinbase – Buy and Sell Bitcoin, Ethereum, and more with trust
Understanding the Global Rise of Authoritarianism
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Jan 4, 2022 • 50min
Playing with Fire with Scott Rieckens | MHFi 038
Doug and Carl talk with Scott Rieckens, the creator behind the popular Playing with Fire Documentary. A few highlights from our discussion:
How Scott found FI and how he got his wife on board
Identifying the top ten things that make you happy (and the ten that make you miserable)
Even Happier by Tal-Ben Shahar
How FIRE lets you focus on the good things in life (and why you don’t actually need to be financially independent to do that)
Scott’s experiences with negative attitudes towards FIRE
Scott’s perfect day
Scott’s new project: the online school Hello Compound, where Scott and his partner, Rob, help others to get their financial lives in order.
Playing with FIRE on Amazon
Be sure to check out all Scott’s endeavors and you can follow him on Twitter to see what he’s up to next!
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Dec 28, 2021 • 49min
J$ – Charitable Giving & FI | MHFi 037
In this episode, Doug and Carl interview blogging legend J$, founder of Budgets Are Sexy, Rockstar Finance, and Love Drop. Here are a few highlights of our discussion:
J$ discusses how an innocent apartment search turned into a disastrous home purchase.
Housing
The great “buy versus rent” debate
Why humans sometimes buy homes when they shouldn’t
Budgets Are Sexy
The origin story
Publishing stories that no one else would touch
The joy and pain of publicly sharing net worth
Selling the site
Giving back
Creating good in the world with Love Drop (giving away $90,000!)
Why do some people hate everything?
How Doug gives back
Links
All-Star Money
Budgets Are Sexy
My Money Blog
Side Hustle Series: I’m a “Phone Actress”
The Love Drop “Highlights” Video!
Nate St. Pierre’s Projects That Change the World
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Dec 21, 2021 • 1h 16min
Year End Review | MHFi 036
Doug and Carl talk about how 2021 went and their goals for 2022. They also talk about asparagus.
Opening
Carl comments on Doug’s new hoodie which makes him look exactly like Clifford the big red dog. Or should we say, Clifford the big red Doug.
Mile High FI
Did the podcast live up to expectations?
Wait, what were the expectations?
Doug and Carl talk about 2021
Doug worked less, abandoned a project, went to 3 personal finance events, and took off big chunks of time
Carl worked way too much, stopped exercising, and pretty much said Yes! to everything
Doug and Carl share their resolutions for each other
Carl should do less, but also meditate and journal
Doug should play a live gig and stop obsessing over asparagus
Links
EconoMe Conference – Nov 13th & 14th, 2021
Bitches Get Riches
Melanzana Outdoor Clothing made in Leadville
San Joaquin Asparagus Festival | Visit Stockton
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Dec 14, 2021 • 1h 11min
Create Fearlessly with Jillian Johnsrud | MHFi 035
Doug and Carl talk to Jillian Johnsrud, author, blogger, podcaster, and life coach, about her book, Fire the Haters: Finding Courage to Create Online in a Critical World. Jillian lives in Montana with her husband and five children. She reached financial independence at the age of 32, and now she helps coach others on their journey to FI, as well as helping people through career transitions and supporting them as they launch or seek to grow businesses. In her podcast, Everyday Courage, Jillian talks to guests about FIRE, investing, career trajectories, and how to design a happy and successful life. Here are a few highlights from our discussion with Jillian:
Expectations vs reality as a content creator
How to decouple your self from your work
Trying to make everyone happy is never interesting or engaging
How to get helpful feedback but tune out the trolls
Imposter syndrome
Preparation as a form of procrastination (Did we bully Carl into launching a project he’s been sitting on for years? Maybe!)
Jillian’s perfect day/week
How to reach out to a high-profile person (without being creepy)
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Dec 7, 2021 • 1h 19min
EconoMe Recap | MHFi 034
Doug and Carl talk about the EconoMe conference, bunking together, Skyline Chili, and dutch ovens. Here are a few highlights of their discussion:
Doug discusses a trip to buy an $80 hoodie (the beloved Melanzana)
Carl discusses his recent trip to Butt Rock
EconoMe overview
Doug’s snoring and Carl’s dutch oven
Stacking Benjamins show
Is EconoMe about education, entertainment, community, or all of the above?
Breakout sessions: women personal finance and socially responsible investing
“Hell yeah!!” or “No!” (Derek Sivers) There is no middle ground.
Carl discusses his big talk
Thoughts on Cincinnati and Skyline Chili
Return to EconoMe in 2023?
Other Links
Bitches Get Riches
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