Join Robert Toss, a McKinsey marketing partner with 25 years of experience, and Nick Primola, ANA's EVP focused on industry leadership, as they dissect the widening rift between marketing believers and skeptics. They reveal shocking data: 90% of CEOs distrust marketing, affecting growth. The duo explores CEO archetypes and why alignment between CEOs and CMOs is crucial. They argue that seeing marketing as a cost center is dangerous and insist that the CMO role is more relevant than ever, emphasizing the need for a cultural shift and better financial connections.

This is Part 2 of A CMO Confidential Interview with Andy Sack and Adam Brotman, Co-Founders and Co-CEO's of Forum 3, authors of the book AI First, previously at Microsoft and Starbucks. They discuss why AI is different from previous technology advances and the series of "Holy Shit!" moments experienced when interviewing Sam Altman, Bill Gates and others. Key topics include: their belief that AI is "moving faster than you think" since it isn't constrained by an adoption curve or infrastructure; the power of Artificial General Intelligence which will be smarter than most experts; why trying to calculate the ROI of AI is comparable to measuring the return on electricity; and the possibility of 95% of marketing and agency jobs being impacted over the next 5 years. Tune in to hear how Chat GPT scored a top grade on the AP Biology Exam, how Moderna became an AI leader, and their tips for staying near the front of the wave.Discover how AI is revolutionizing marketing with 5X productivity gains, as revealed by top CMOs. In this episode of CMO Confidential, host Mike Lint explores the transformative power of AI in the marketing landscape. Adam and Andy, AI experts and authors, share insights on how companies like Moderna are leveraging AI to achieve unprecedented efficiency.Key topics include:• The real-world impact of AI adoption in biotech and marketing• How Moderna achieved 5X productivity gains with an AI-first approach• The future of marketing jobs in the age of AI• Strategies for marketers to become AI-literate and stay competitive• Evaluating AI vendors and measuring ROI in marketingTune in to hear practical advice on embracing AI in your marketing strategy, from creating an AI council to implementing AI tools for enhanced productivity. Learn why AI literacy is crucial for marketers and how to combine domain knowledge with AI capabilities for breakthrough results.Don't miss this eye-opening discussion on the future of marketing in the AI era. Subscribe to CMO Confidential for more insights on marketing leadership and innovation.#leadgeneration #socialmediamarketing #digitalmarketing #makemoneywithai #brandinginthedigitalageCHAPTERS:00:00 - Intro04:06 - AI Impact on Marketing05:46 - AGI and Marketers11:57 - Evaluating AI Vendors16:14 - AI Literacy and Proficiency21:00 - ROI of AI26:35 - Final Questions30:00 - Additional Practical Advice33:07 - OutroSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Adam Brotman, former Chief Digital Officer at Starbucks, and Andy Sack, Managing Partner at Keane Capital, share insights on the future of AI in marketing. They discuss the explosive growth of AI, emphasizing it moves faster than ever before, unbound by traditional adoption curves. The duo reveals their 'Holy Shit!' moments from interviewing tech giants and the looming impact of AI on marketing roles—potentially affecting 95% of jobs in the field. Brotman and Sack also touch on how AGI could transform knowledge work and highlight Moderna's AI innovations.

A CMO Confidential Interview with Jon Davids, founder and CEO of Influicity and author of Marketing Superpowers. Jon discusses the idea of creating your own influencers in a marketplace where communities matter more than ever. Key topics include: the synthetic influencer as a natural evolution from Colonel Sanders, Toucan Sam, and Tony the Tiger; the ability of an artificial character to do whatever is required; the AI personalization potential; and the fact that synthetics don't engage in contract negotiations or require reuse fees. Tune in to hear about Lil Miquela, a fictional character with millions of followers, and why you should pay attention to what nerds do on weekends.CMO Secrets: Why Synthetic AI Influencers Are Changing Marketing. John Davids, founder and CEO of influicity, joins Mike Linton to explore the evolving world of synthetic AI influencers and their impact on marketing strategies.Tune in to hear insights on:• The definition and growth of synthetic influencers• How brands can leverage AI-powered characters• Pros and cons of creating synthetic influencers• Personalization at scale using AI technology• The future of brand mascots and virtual personalitiesJohn shares his expertise on community building, influencer marketing, and the potential of AI in creating engaging brand experiences. Learn why synthetic influencers could be the next frontier in marketing and how they compare to traditional mascots and celebrities.Discover the challenges and opportunities facing CMOs as they navigate this innovative marketing landscape. Whether you're a seasoned marketer or a curious business professional, this episode offers valuable insights into the future of brand-consumer interactions.Subscribe to the CMO Confidential Newsletter for exclusive content and stay ahead in the rapidly evolving world of marketing.#influencermarketing #influencermarketingagency #socialmediamarketing #creatoreconomy #onlinecommunityCHAPTERS:00:00 - Intro01:00 - John Davids Returns01:55 - Understanding Community06:24 - Defining Synthetic Influencers13:43 - Personalization at Scale Strategies19:00 - Cartoon Characters vs. Virtual Influencers22:13 - AI Bots as Your Best Customers25:00 - Exploring the Final Frontier25:37 - Closing Thoughts and Last QuestionSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jim Stengel, former CMO of P&G and CEO of the Jim Stengel Company, shares his wealth of experience in marketing leadership. He explains the shift from traditional awareness to capturing consumer entertainment and attention. Stengel emphasizes that CMOs need to focus 90% on leadership and just 10% on marketing tactics. He advocates for aligning brand purpose with improving consumer lives and the need for ongoing innovation and creativity. Listeners will enjoy insights on the balance of personal well-being and professional growth in the marketing world.

A CMO Confidential Interview with Chris Andrew, the CEO and Co-Founder of Scrunch AI and former Chief Product Officer of Hearsay. Chris shares his thoughts on how AI will dramatically alter customer purchase patterns and why marketers should be thinking about how to win "BOT engagement." Key topics include: why he believes consumer consideration and use of websites could collapse over time; his belief that brands should be building content which serves as "raw material" for AI; and tips for measuring and understanding how the numerous AI models return results to consumers. Tune in to hear why Bing will become relevant again.Why Your Next Best Customer Is An AI Bot: CMO Reality CheckDiscover how AI is revolutionizing marketing and customer engagement with Chris Andrew, CEO and co-founder of Scrunch AI. In this eye-opening episode of CMO Confidential, host Mike Linton explores the future of AI in marketing and its impact on brands, search, and customer behavior.Key topics include:• The rise of AI assistants and their influence on consumer behavior• How AI bots are becoming the new "customers" for marketers• The potential disruption of traditional search and website traffic• Strategies for optimizing your brand presence for AI models• The changing landscape of search engines and ad platformsTune in to hear Chris's insights on:• Why marketers need to adapt their strategies for AI-driven search• The importance of structured content for AI crawlers• How to monitor and improve your brand's performance across AI models• The future of brand building in an AI-dominated landscapeDon't miss this crucial discussion on the future of marketing in the age of AI. Subscribe to CMO Confidential for more expert insights on navigating the rapidly evolving world of marketing and technology.#aiautomationagency #localseo #seo #googleads #digitalmarketingCHAPTERS:00:00 - Intro01:00 - Your Best Customer: AI Bots06:15 - The Destruction of Websites10:27 - Chatbots: Risks and Challenges13:16 - Marketers' Mindset on AI15:06 - Adjusting Content for AI19:55 - Visibility in AI Search Results21:35 - Future of Bing and Search Engines23:34 - AI Models: Resources or Raw Material?27:26 - Immediate Actions for Marketers30:44 - Funniest Story or Practical Advice32:27 - Believers vs. Non-Believers in AI32:30 - Payton Manning's CLTV Perspective32:35 - AI: Anticipation vs. Reaction32:40 - Is AI an Extinction Event for Agencies?32:45 - OutroSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A CMO Confidential Interview with Tom Stein, the Chairman & Chief Brand Officer of Stein IAS, a leading global B2B agency. Tom shares his thoughts on why we are in "The B2B Decade," the underleveraged power of many B2B brands, and how organization structures are often in the way of good marketing. Key topics include: why so many B2B companies default to the "3 yards and a cloud of dust" plays seen in football circa 1960; the power of linking brand, performance marketing and sales functions; and why the B2B Marketing job can be especially challenging. Tune in to hear his thoughts on "The Big, Long Idea" and how he fell off the stage playing the bass at his first big gig.Discover the hidden flaws in B2B marketing that top CMOs won't tell you! Join former Chief Marketing Officer Mike Linton as he hosts CMO Confidential, bringing you inside the world of executive marketing decisions and strategies. In this episode, Mike welcomes Tom Stein, Founder and Chief Brand Officer at Stein IAS, to unravel the inherent challenges in B2B marketing and what you can do to overcome them. Key topics include the evolving B2B landscape, the impact of AI, and the critical role of creative effectiveness in marketing. Tune in to hear Tom's insights on why B2B marketing is often misunderstood and how aligning brand and demand can propel your business forward. Don't miss the opportunity to learn from industry leaders and improve your marketing strategies. Subscribe to the CMO Confidential Newsletter for exclusive content and stay updated on the latest marketing trends and leadership advice.#influencermarketing #cmoinsights #salesandmarketingalignment #customerjourney #b2bmarketingCHAPTERS:00:00 - Intro00:39 - B2B Marketing Challenges01:49 - Understanding the B2B Landscape07:06 - Issues in B2B Marketing09:16 - Evolution of B2B Marketing Strategies14:00 - The Rise of Brand in B2B18:02 - Valuation and Measurement of B2B Brand22:19 - B2B Client Best and Worst Practices26:54 - Addressing B2B CMOs Worldwide28:34 - Engaging B2B Agencies Globally32:40 - Final Thoughts34:04 - OutroSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A CMO Confidential interview with Jason Radisson, CEO of Movo, former Regional GM at Uber and Marketer at Caesars Entertainment. Jason shares his thoughts on how to approach inflection points like declining sales, a change of control, or company pivot -- and the importance of focusing on the outcome you have to deliver to move the business forward. Key topics include: how to quickly get the math you need; how to reset strategy if the math says the strategy is wrong; the difference between marketing and business math; and what a "fixer" actually does. Tune in to hear about "algorithmic shelf campaigns," and pages from some of the playbooks he developed at Uber and Harrah's.Dive into the "New CMO Survival Guide: Avoiding the Inflection Pitfalls" on CMO Confidential, where host Mike Linton, a seasoned CMO with experience at Best Buy, eBay, Farmers Insurance, and Ancestry.com, uncovers the intricate challenges faced by new Chief Marketing Officers. Tune in to hear from Jason Radisson, Founder and CEO of Movo, as he shares insights from his extensive background, including roles at Uber, Caesars, and consulting with McKinsey. Key topics include understanding and navigating inflection points such as technological obsolescence and strategic turnaround, and the importance of math and data-driven decision-making in marketing leadership. Discover practical strategies for assessing and reframing company expectations, executing a gap analysis, and optimizing marketing channels for maximum ROI. Whether you're a new CMO or a seasoned executive, this discussion offers valuable lessons in leadership and strategic planning. Subscribe to the CMO Confidential Newsletter for Exclusive Content and stay informed on marketing innovations.#socialmediamarketing #b2bmarketing #fractionalcmo #digitalmarketing #cmostrategiesCHAPTERS:00:00 - Intro01:24 - Inflection Point Explained04:07 - Speed Math Techniques06:34 - Analyzing Wrong Visions11:48 - Understanding a Fixer18:13 - Marketing as Supply Chain19:45 - Identifying Sales Problems23:39 - Algorithmic Shelf Campaigns27:28 - Resolving Data Issues30:38 - Focusing on Desired Outcomes34:24 - OutroSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A CMO Confidential Interview with Jean English, CMO of Juniper Networks, formerly the CMO of Armis, Palo Alto Networks and NetApp. Jean describes the ongoing digital transformation journey, how the "Infrastructure Layer" works and why it's so important to marketers, and why Marketing and IT should be BFF's. Key topics include: the forces driving tech consolidation; a 3-part process to integrate AI into your team; and key questions to ask during a marketing interview with a tech company. Tune in to hear an infrastructure case story about The Gap and why her mantra is "Be Bold. Be Kind."Discover the transformative power of AI in marketing with "AI in Marketing: Don't Get Left Behind." Join Mike Linton, a seasoned CMO, as he hosts Jean English, CMO of Juniper Networks. Key topics include the intersection of AI and digital transformation, challenges in B2B technology, and the critical role of infrastructure in seamless operations. Tune in to hear Jean's unique insights on leveraging AI for real-time customer engagement, personalizing experiences, and enhancing cybersecurity. With over 25 years in tech, Jean shares invaluable advice for marketers aiming to thrive in a tech-driven world. Learn about the importance of aligning marketing with IT for optimal data use and the strategic benefits of acquisitions. This episode is packed with actionable insights and strategies to ensure you stay ahead in the evolving marketing landscape. Don't miss out—subscribe to the CMO Confidential Newsletter for exclusive content and stay connected for more episodes on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube.#b2bmarketing #digitalmarketing #digitaltransformation #digitaltransformationtutorial #businesstransformationCHAPTERS:00:00 - Intro01:25 - B2B Tech Marketing Overview03:38 - Digital Transformation Journey Assessment05:38 - Understanding the Infrastructure Layer for Marketers10:22 - Impact of AI on Infrastructure Layer13:45 - Leveraging AI for Marketing Strategies17:17 - Importance of Cyber Security in Marketing19:50 - Career Considerations for Tech Marketers24:00 - Industry Consolidation and Acquisitions Insights26:30 - Experience of Being Acquired28:20 - Common Blind Spots for B2B Marketers28:40 - Essential Needs for CMOs30:25 - Final Thoughts: Funny Story or Listener AdviceSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A CMO Confidential Interview with Joyce Kim, CMO of cloud cybersecurity company Zscaler. In this highly informative and conversational interview, Joyce describes the ongoing race between companies and the innovative onslaught of bad actors, the concept of "Zero Trust," and how marketers can be good partners with their Chief Information Security Officers (CISOs). Key topics include: what to do if you have a breach; why marketers are often on the front lines of cyber; and questions she asks during the interview process to better understand the candidate's perspective on where marketing fits in a tech company. Also, tune in to hear why she always asks what everyone is wearing before an event.Avoid This Security Mistake: Insights from Top CMOs is a must-watch for marketers seeking to understand the evolving landscape of cybersecurity. Hosted by five-time CMO Mike Linton, this episode of CMO Confidential features Joyce Kim, CMO of Zscaler, a leader in cloud security. Tune in to hear Joyce's insights as she navigates the complexities of cybersecurity, from endpoint protection to zero trust architecture. Key topics include the growing threat of breaches, the role of AI in cyber defense, and the importance of maintaining consumer trust.Joyce Kim, with her extensive background at Google, Microsoft, and Zscaler, brings a wealth of knowledge on mitigating risks in a digital world. Learn how marketers can collaborate with IT to protect their organizations and explore best practices for managing breach responses. This episode offers invaluable perspectives on how to safeguard your company's assets while driving innovation.Subscribe to the CMO Confidential Newsletter for Exclusive Content and keep up with industry-leading insights. Stay connected with us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more.#zerotrust #cloudsecurity #zerotrustsecurityposture #marketinginsights #customerjourneyCHAPTERS:00:00 - Intro00:40 - Cybersecurity Strategies06:19 - Impact of Data Breaches08:14 - Good vs. Bad Actors in Cybersecurity11:58 - AI and Cybersecurity for Marketers12:25 - Marketing Best Practices17:20 - Consequences of Rogue Behavior19:30 - Response to Data Breaches22:35 - Marketing Security Solutions25:22 - Technology and Marketing Integration28:33 - Final ThoughtsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.